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Old 16th Sep 2009, 19:28
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If my roster is anything to go by if you go to Frankfurt in October it'll prob be on the 170!
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Old 16th Sep 2009, 21:32
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Question for Dutchbird

What will the Embrear DA be at LCY?

Afterall it isn't a 146! or derivative thereof

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Old 17th Sep 2009, 08:54
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@ RB311. Well, no DA in the fleet as it's registered to a Falcon 900EX by London City Jet Aviation Center.

@ RJ100. Indeed on SBY, or otherwise bored in some hotel.

The first three aircrafts schedueles can be found in earlier replies.
G-LCYD made a nice first landing yesterday and is schedueled to go to CBG and back today. Departing 1230z and back at 1730z.

One of the plans might be a promo on SEP 28 or 29 (can't remember the exact date) with 2x A318 and 2x E170 on the new stands. One problem is that BA is pushing Airbus to get the 2nd A318 delivered one day earlier than schedueled and that might not work.
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Old 17th Sep 2009, 08:58
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DB757 - I think RB311 was referring to Decision Altitude! which if I remember right is 570' on 27 but i might have got that mixed up with something else!
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Im sure RB311 meant the ILS DA/DH not the registration

But it being non BAe146/RJ i would asume it would have to adhere to the std published DA/DH assuming approach Cat C for rwy 09: 460' (vs BAe 360') and for rwy 27: 550 (vs 460') asuming it is capable of minimum 3.5% climb gradient

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Good spot guys. Sorry about that, don't know what I was thinking.

I'll pass on that one. Haven't got the plates handy.
First question that comes to mind, is the E170 CAT B or C?
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Old 17th Sep 2009, 16:29
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It's Cat C. At the minute I believe we are using the figure for 3% missed approach gradient until some experience is achieved and performance verified.
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YD on finals 09 yesterday;
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Old 17th Sep 2009, 21:25
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Looks very nice I must say. Reminds me of an ATP but with jets.
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Caudillo;-(An ATP)

If you think that perhaps you need to go to 'Specsavers'.
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Old 18th Sep 2009, 12:12
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I am guessing that CJ171T from EDI on the LCY arrivals board is the CAA proving flight.

Does anyone know how long after the flight it will be before CAA approval is granted??

Also will the E170 park the same way as the RJ's currently do at LCY or are not all the stands big enough?.
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Old 18th Sep 2009, 12:50
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It will park the same as the RJ's did. My understanding is that should proving flight be ok then approval is granted there and then by signing a form.
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Old 18th Sep 2009, 12:52
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Apologies as I don't know a massive amount about AOC ops; but what is the proving flight actually for? The addition of a new type to an AOC, or something specific to LCY's unique approach etc?

Will mainline have to do a proving flight for the A318?
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Old 18th Sep 2009, 12:53
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That's indeed correct. And the 190's will most propably park on the new stands in LCY.

G-LCYE leaves the factory today at 1800Z.
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Old 18th Sep 2009, 15:10
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HeliCraig. Its nothing to do with LCY ops ,its as you suggest all to do with introducing a new type to a company and the CAA just ensuring the overall operation can be done to the required standard. BA have already done the proving flight on the 318.
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LCYE now not scheduled to depart until Monday
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Old 18th Sep 2009, 22:31
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helicraig - towser is right but it also helps to iron out any unforseen issues with turnarounds, general handling etc etc and form SOP's (standard operating procedures) for the crew. It saves any embarrassment sending the aircraft straight into revenue service and coming a cropper because you've forgotten something. No doubt, the aircraft had a few senior RJ captains on board getting familiar with the handling and approach. The SIM would have ironed out most of it but nothing like hands-on. I was on the first Dash-300 proving flight in the UK (G-BRYI) from PLH-NCL-ABZ-PLH and it was full of management and crew having a play around.We were only allowed to get off in ABZ for 30mins. A long day by all accounts!
 
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G-BRYI
I was on this aircraft last week! now G-WOWE with Air Southwest and still operating out of PLH & NCL !!
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I have noticed that BACF have updated their timetable on BA.COM regarding the planned deployment of the new E-Jets.

I noticed this summer that some aircraft spent long periods of time on the ground.

I know it was discussed before, but is there any further word on if BACF will use the introduction of the new fleet to increase there presence at LCY by adding frequencies on existing routes or even add some new routes?

Originally Posted by DutchBird-757
One of the plans might be a promo on SEP 28 or 29 (can't remember the exact date) with 2x A318 and 2x E170 on the new stands. One problem is that BA is pushing Airbus to get the 2nd A318 delivered one day earlier than schedueled and that might not work.
I am suprised BACF aren't running a advertising campaign to coincide with the introduction of the the new E-Jets.
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Old 19th Sep 2009, 11:43
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I think it's a loss on the management that they are using the term Ejet, which sounds very much like Edjet. In Scotland the term Edjet means an idiot or w****r.
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