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Old 29th Nov 2009, 18:42
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An "option" gives an airline a right to a future aircraft under a predefined business arrangement. Each option has a defined delivery position as well as an option exercise date and requires a non-refundable option deposit to secure each option position.

A purchase right is where an airline will predefine a business arrangement for future aircraft. Typically the right will be valid for a defined period of time but has no delivery position assigned. Purchase rights require no deposits, which means an airline can only exercise a purchase right if there is an available aircraft within their purchase right "window".

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Old 29th Nov 2009, 19:59
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Thanks DB.
What advantage is there in having a purchase right, then. As the manufacturer would not put it into the build plan without an order, presumably.
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Old 13th Dec 2009, 22:53
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BA strike threat

OK - as a regular into LCY, does a mainline dispute over longhaul cabin staffing levels affect BA Cityflyer - and when will the long-suffering SLF know???
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Old 13th Dec 2009, 23:27
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shouldnt have any effect at LCY, as far as i am aware the cityflyer staff are on totally seperate contracts to mainline staff.

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BA LCY

Best news I've had all year - with 40 roundtrips a year into City and the odd F and J longhaul, I still get better service on the LCY routes. Long may it remain so...
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Should indeed have no effect for LCY at all. Other news that does affect BA at LCY:

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This morning we are announcing two new routes to popular Spanish sun spots direct from London City.

The new flights to Palma, Majorca and Ibiza will take off from London City Airport in May 2010.

Travelling direct from The Docklands, on the brand new Embraer 190 aircraft, passengers can be on the beach in the Balearics is less than three hours.

It’s the first time British Airways has operated leisure only flights from London City Airport but there is a growing demand for flights to the sun, particularly with customers looking for short breaks.

The initial three-times-a-week service will operate on Friday, Sunday and Monday, offering an ideal schedule for passengers looking for a weekend or longer break. There are plans to increase the frequency in the peak summer months, when demand for business travel is reduced.

All inclusive one way fares are available from £69, and will be available to book on ba.com later this morning.


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Old 14th Dec 2009, 10:46
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Actually they're a different company. Part of the BA group but beyond that any action would be secondary which is of course illegal.
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Old 14th Dec 2009, 18:58
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shouldnt have any effect at LCY, as far as i am aware the cityflyer staff are on totally seperate contracts to mainline staff.

yes, but the JFK service will be in trouble.

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Old 14th Dec 2009, 21:19
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Forgot about that one as well. Still getting used to the Airbus at LCY.

Anyway, managed to find the flight schedueles;

London City – Ibiza 21MAY10 – 12SEP10
BA8461 LCY0700 – 1015IBZ E90 FRI
BA8461 LCY1105 – 1420IBZ E70 MON
BA8461 LCY1300 – 1620IBZ E90 SUN
BA8462 IBZ1100 – 1225LCY E90 FRI
BA8462 IBZ1505 – 1630LCY E70 MON
BA8462 IBZ1750 – 1910LCY E90 SUN

London City – Palma Mallorca 21MAY10 – 13SEP10
BA8483 LCY0710 – 1025PMI E70 FRI
BA8483 LCY1215 – 1530PMI E90 MON
BA8483 LCY1420 – 1735PMI E90 SUN
BA8484 PMI1055 – 1210LCY E70 FRI
BA8484 PMI1615 – 1730LCY E90 MON
BA8484 PMI1845 – 2000LCY E90 SUN

Basically ideal for a long weekend. Friday morning to monday evening. Even handy if your working on monday, especially the PMI return.

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Old 15th Dec 2009, 08:14
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The LCY-JFK route is crewed from Gatwick. Gatwick CC are on a different contract to that of the LHR crews which already included the reduced crew number of crew onboard. So the routes out of LGW should not be affected. Number I heard was that 80% of the crew in LGW are not part of the strike action. But please check with BA regarding LGW routes, as my info may not be accurate.


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Old 15th Dec 2009, 16:06
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The strike by the loonies at BASSA will undoubtedly have an effect on forward bookings at BA CitiFlyer. The public won't see the difference.

Are CFE CC not allowed to join BASSA?
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BACF summer charter EDI - CAG??

Was looking at the charter flight timetable on the BAA Edinburgh website earlier and noticed that a new flight to CAG with a BA flight number has been added

According to the timetable the weekly flight is for a tour operator called Sardatur Holidays.

The flight will operate from the 29th May 2010 until the 25th September 2010. The flight, BA4513 will operate every Saturday departing EDI at 10:30, with the return flights landing back in EDI at 19:30

BAA Edinburgh: Charter flight timetable

Anyone able to confirm if BACF are operating this flight?.
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Old 20th Dec 2009, 14:43
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Skipness BASSA is a closed door for Cityflyer cabin crew .
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Old 20th Dec 2009, 15:48
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Any word on a DUS route by BACF for next summer?
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Old 20th Dec 2009, 20:51
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BALaddy If the BAA EDI website is anything to go by that flight has been on there for the last few years. BAConnect did operate a charter to Cagliari I think 2 or 3 summers ago and it was on the BAA website last year as well but we didn't operate it. We certainly haven't been told we're doing it but then that wouldn't mean anthing!
ViriginBlue; What DUS route? The last time we went to DUS it was direct from EDI and everything we do is now through LCY. If you mean from LCY then no idea but I doubt it.
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Old 20th Dec 2009, 21:34
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Sardatur expands UK flight offering

(16 December 2009)
Sardinian specialist Sardatur Holidays is expanding its UK offering to Cagliari with direct weekly services from Edinburgh and Manchester with British Airways (BA).

The new service, which commences on May 29 2010 and which will have a club-class cabin will complement the BA service Sardatur offers from Heathrow to the Sardinian capital.
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Old 20th Dec 2009, 22:45
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AIRLCY I stand corrected. In fact thinking about it now it wasn't Cagliari we went to but Alghero! Also having done some looking the EDI flight is not direct but via Manchester.

As for PMI and IBZ from LCY we haven't seen the performance figures for the 190 yet but they will be configured as 98 seats.
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Old 21st Dec 2009, 09:45
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E170

Rather disappointing to see these nice new E170 don’t have individual passenger tv screens. Do these a/c have any tv screens in at all? if not its a bit backward for a manual cabin safety demo in todays world!
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Old 21st Dec 2009, 10:14
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No tv screens fitted in any of them. Not only is it an unnecessary expense on a short haul aircraft but its also an unwanted weight which would restrict the payload out of LCY.
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Old 21st Dec 2009, 11:03
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Why would you need tv screens when you've got Highlife magazine...
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