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Iver, funny you should bring that up.
First picture is actually my desktop background since they announced it and the second one is all to familiar as well.
It will indeed be a major leap in technology. Dark and silent cockpit rather than having lots of chimes and lights.
First picture is actually my desktop background since they announced it and the second one is all to familiar as well.
It will indeed be a major leap in technology. Dark and silent cockpit rather than having lots of chimes and lights.
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BAladdy - I think I will wait to see what the plaques on the aircraft say, and I doubt very much, that it will be "owned by BA" and leased to bacf.
Tandemroter - I am neither management nor balpa, however I agree with many other posters, who are just happy to have a job with (now) a degree of security, for both myself and my colleagues.
This will be my last post on this topic as, now that the announcement has been made, it has run its natural cause.
Merry Christmas
Tandemroter - I am neither management nor balpa, however I agree with many other posters, who are just happy to have a job with (now) a degree of security, for both myself and my colleagues.
This will be my last post on this topic as, now that the announcement has been made, it has run its natural cause.
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How many E190s could they park on the LCY ramp at the same time? I guess that's why they also ordered some smaller E170s - can't fit everything at once...
BTW, are BA still planning to fly the A319s out of LCY to the States? Has that been delayed due to the sour economy or is that still a go?
BTW, are BA still planning to fly the A319s out of LCY to the States? Has that been delayed due to the sour economy or is that still a go?
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Wasn't it SEP 09 that the first of two A318 starts at LCY? Roughly the same time as our 170's start showing up.
Was thinking about parking at LCY myself. Seeing that the 190 is 1.5 meters shorter than an A320. It's wingspan is a fair bit shorter. Are they (LCY) gonna go ahead with nose-in parking? (heard a rumour)
Was thinking about parking at LCY myself. Seeing that the 190 is 1.5 meters shorter than an A320. It's wingspan is a fair bit shorter. Are they (LCY) gonna go ahead with nose-in parking? (heard a rumour)
The four new gates at the east end of te LCY ramp are properly sized for A318/E190 aircraft manoeuvres, without needing nose-in parking. These will presumaby be the gates of first choice for these two types.
I hope there is not an attempt to use the new types at the main gates 2-8, where not only is the manoeuvring probably not possible without a tractor, but the restricted passenger holding arrangements, which for a full 146 already mean passengers queueing for extended periods on narrow and steep stairs down to them, would undoubtedly fail any Health & Safety assessment for new construction.
I hope there is not an attempt to use the new types at the main gates 2-8, where not only is the manoeuvring probably not possible without a tractor, but the restricted passenger holding arrangements, which for a full 146 already mean passengers queueing for extended periods on narrow and steep stairs down to them, would undoubtedly fail any Health & Safety assessment for new construction.
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How dare you imply that London City would become a proper Airport!!!!
Please retract this immediately, as this will never, ever be the case.
An oversized aircraft carrier with the best ATCOs in East London perhaps, but proper airport
Please retract this immediately, as this will never, ever be the case.
An oversized aircraft carrier with the best ATCOs in East London perhaps, but proper airport
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@ D and F. Some flightdeck is now based in LCY as off 1st of Dec this year. Don't know about rostering, based in EDI myself, and DEC isn't really a representative month. Reporting time of 90 minutes during SBY. (i.o 60 in EDI)
@ Mr. Mouse. Gotta love LCY. Best airport in Lodon!
@ Mr. Mouse. Gotta love LCY. Best airport in Lodon!
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Dutchbird757 here are a couple of questions for you as you seem to be the most up to speed on the new E-Jet topic.
Noticed on the Embraer website that there is quite a backlog on E190's to be delivered. Will this mean all the 170's will be delivered before they take delivery of the 190SR's?.
Does anyone know with the new E-Jets will there be less chance of pax offloads due to weight restriction during the key summer months to MAD, BCN and WAW??.
On the schedule side when does BACF finalize their summer timetable?. It is just I have heard rumours that WAW will not return until next winter is this true as I was planning to fly there from LCY this summer...........
Noticed on the Embraer website that there is quite a backlog on E190's to be delivered. Will this mean all the 170's will be delivered before they take delivery of the 190SR's?.
Does anyone know with the new E-Jets will there be less chance of pax offloads due to weight restriction during the key summer months to MAD, BCN and WAW??.
On the schedule side when does BACF finalize their summer timetable?. It is just I have heard rumours that WAW will not return until next winter is this true as I was planning to fly there from LCY this summer...........
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BAladdy. We haven't been given any idea as to the delivery schedule as far as 170v190 is concerned. The 190 isn't likely to be certified for LCY till the end of 2009 so I guess the first 4 or 5 aircraft will be 170's so it may work out the way you describe. I think there should be a very much reduced chance of offloads in the summer on the longer sectors but I haven't seen the performance figures to back this up. As for the WAW ,again only solid info is that its gone for the winter. ( At the minute it seems we're still trying to sort out next weeks schedule never mind the summer!!)
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Its likely 170's are before 190's, the first few delivered are def 170's. WAW still planned in for summer, should be finalised mid Jan when unused slots have to be handed back by airlines.
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Hi all and best wishes for 2009!
I recall a short lived airline which operated 146s at LCY, must be mid 90s, I think it was called World Airlines/Airways. The aircraft was white with a navy tail with a sunflower on the tail.
It was operating the Amsterdam at a reasonable frequency and if my memory serves me right I think that it was around the time of debonair.
I am wondering does anybody have photo's of same? It would be great to receive, if anyone is in the mood to PM me??
Thanks
EI-BUD
I recall a short lived airline which operated 146s at LCY, must be mid 90s, I think it was called World Airlines/Airways. The aircraft was white with a navy tail with a sunflower on the tail.
It was operating the Amsterdam at a reasonable frequency and if my memory serves me right I think that it was around the time of debonair.
I am wondering does anybody have photo's of same? It would be great to receive, if anyone is in the mood to PM me??
Thanks
EI-BUD
World Airlines :
Yes, I rememer them. An astoundingly all-embracing name for an operation on one route (LCY-AMS) which required one aircraft daily.
They had a fleet of two 146 jets, G-WLCY (2030) which turned up in March 1996, and G-OWLD (2031), which came in July 1996, both ex-US Airways which had been stored in Arizona for some years. Operations didn't start until the second aircraft turned up, after several false starts and missed deadlines, and they were out of business in a few months, sometime in Autumn 1996.
They had ads on LBC radio in London, and several London black taxis done up in the same livery as allover advertisments.
When they went under one of the aircraft was seized on the LCY ramp and sat there for weeks, where gate 9 now is, with a van parked in front of it. The LCY ramp was quieter then !
Photos: British Aerospace BAe-146-200 Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net
There are several other photos of them on Airliners.net.
2030 and 2031 are now with Cityjet (EI-PAT and EI-CNQ) and can still be seen at LCY from time to time.
Yes, I rememer them. An astoundingly all-embracing name for an operation on one route (LCY-AMS) which required one aircraft daily.
They had a fleet of two 146 jets, G-WLCY (2030) which turned up in March 1996, and G-OWLD (2031), which came in July 1996, both ex-US Airways which had been stored in Arizona for some years. Operations didn't start until the second aircraft turned up, after several false starts and missed deadlines, and they were out of business in a few months, sometime in Autumn 1996.
They had ads on LBC radio in London, and several London black taxis done up in the same livery as allover advertisments.
When they went under one of the aircraft was seized on the LCY ramp and sat there for weeks, where gate 9 now is, with a van parked in front of it. The LCY ramp was quieter then !
Photos: British Aerospace BAe-146-200 Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net
There are several other photos of them on Airliners.net.
2030 and 2031 are now with Cityjet (EI-PAT and EI-CNQ) and can still be seen at LCY from time to time.
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I doubt we will for a while as Pprune is now a "prohibited website" and blocked on all BA company computers. As HZ123 seems to post from Waterside he might have to use his home PC.............
Eight days since the announcement of new aircraft for BACF and still no reply from HZ123 happy days!!!!