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Old 6th Jul 2009, 19:10
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There are flights showing on E170 and E190 next summer season on EDI, but varies by month - seems a fair few in May. Is it not showing the E170's for winter yet?
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Just found this on BA website

A small number of British Airways flights have been cancelled from our forthcoming Winter 2009 and Summer 2010 schedule.

Flight Withdrawals from 25 October 2009
London City to Lyon
London City to Barcelona


www.lfn.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/lfn.cfg...X25sJnBfcGFnZT0x&p_li=&p_topview=1

I understand the LYS but the BCN is still 3x weekly isn't it?
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Dutchbird i think the way that Cityflyer have been used in the past by BA is possibly different to the way that Cityflyer will be used in the future, once the E jets are online and Mainline has a presence at LCY. So maybe there could be a shake up of the route structure and routes that seem important at the moment might not be in the future?
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Regarding the BCN from LCY:

Service resumes from 29MAR10 and is to be operated by the new Embraer E170/190 (except 29MAR10 to 02MAY10 on weekdays with Avro RJ100)

Source: GDS timetable
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Old 13th Jul 2009, 09:46
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I know that it is loaded in the GDS, but if it is true why don't BA advise accordingly in their press release? Whoever reads the press release must think that the route is gone for good as it is not listed in the section that lists the flights that resume for next summer season.
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Old 13th Jul 2009, 18:31
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The only place its displayed is ba.com and it's wrong, luckily apart from people on here etc, not many read it!
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Old 31st Jul 2009, 19:23
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BA003P LCY/EXT Tonight!

Just noticed this flight on the London City Website.

Exeter EXT BA003P 20:35
Are BACF handing back another RJ??
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No. This was 'AY' getting maintenance done on it's landing gear. It used to be done in Stansted but that's changed to Exeter. I think the next one to go is/was 'AW'. But don't quote me on that.7

Only just over 4 weeks until the first E170 arrives!
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Old 6th Aug 2009, 23:25
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In a far off galaxy, a long, long time ago... I recall an argument that BA Cityflyer (at that time BA Connect?) should not be making pilots redundant, whilst another part of the group (mainline) remained profitable.

Nobody from Connect was ever actually made redundant, but you catch my drift??

Just thinking how the argument goes, now the boot is on the other foot?

Should the financial burden of retaining these 'surplus' (mainline) pilots be shared equally amongst the group?

Now is the time to decide whether arguments proffered then were genuine, or simply people bumping their gums together??

Many of you making those arguments at the time must still be around!

Not asking for reassurance you understand. Just want to make the situation crystal clear so that in future, we all know where we stand!
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In Cityflyer we had a pilot surplus and were looking to make pilots redundant. This was resolved by other means,(basically a reduction in terms and conditions) but we never had a pilot deficit so the boot was never on the other foot!
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A sneak preview of our first E170 here: YouTube - ExecutiveAirShare's Channel

(It's hiding in the back)

Plus the first pictures:
http://www.aeroworldnews.com.br/ftga...1248829192.jpg

http://www.aeroworldnews.com.br/ftga...1248829018.jpg

And finally a slightly revised delivery scheduele:

The E170's are planned to be delivered as follows:
G-LCYD - 08 Sep 2009
G-LCYE - 19 Sep 2009
G-LCYF - 31 Oct 2009
G-LCYG - Nov 2009
G-LCYH - Dec 2009
G-LCYI - Jan 2010

E190SR's are planned to be delivered as follows; (1x 190SR in FEB iso 2x 190SR in MAR)

G-LCYJ - Feb 2010
G-LCYK - Mar 2010
G-LCYL - Apr 2010
G-LCYM - May 2010
G-LCYN - Jun 2010

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Old 13th Aug 2009, 11:57
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E170 delivery's

just out of interest where are the Embraers being delivered to? where will the engineering base be?
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Good question and haven't got an awnser for it. I would assume EDI for mx. I've been told the first one goes to EDI on delivery.
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Old 14th Aug 2009, 17:10
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Nice little twist with the registrations!

Final aircraft delivered in June 2010, am I right in saying that is earlier than the previous plan? I suppose there is no news on CityFlyer talking any of the options at this stage.
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Old 14th Aug 2009, 17:41
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In some ways this is incredibly depresssing though. We are replacing the last British built airliners with a Brazilian built piece of kit. We had the industry and the skills generations before them and look where we are now. Building the last few Eurofighters and some Merlins, and once that's done, game over.

Well done to Embraer for a smashing piece of kit. Looks good in BA colours.
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Well said Skippy!!
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Old 14th Aug 2009, 18:49
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Only you could make something exciting and new sound "depressing"
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Old 14th Aug 2009, 19:53
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It's true though - such a shame Avro / Bae didnt continue. I guess at least some airbus wings are made in the UK, not that the UK gov't are too bothered - look at the support they give Airbus vs France and Germany!
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Old 14th Aug 2009, 20:47
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Only you could make something exciting and new sound "depressing"
I'm a realist and a pragmatist. If you don't like me then block me and you can live your life without be bringing you down. However BA and also BEA and BOAC had a long history of supporting British jobs and industry, and also of messing it up for the same people.
My point is that the final link with British aircraft manufacturing and our ( former ) flag carrier will be gone with the last RJ. That is worthy of mentioning in passing. I also said the Brazilian replacement was an awesome piece of kit, an aircraft that we ought to be building ourselves, but those days are gone.

Our economy is now heavily tied in with the bankrupt and immoral financial services juggernaut with which the shiny new non-British replacement will be flying for. There are several levels of irony in there alone.
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Old 16th Aug 2009, 08:00
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No news on the options but the decision date for them has been put back.
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