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Indeed Emb190! 
Didnīt knew it was Sep even. Iīll try and stay away from a LCY base.
@ Baladdy. See towser reply. Havenīt got anything to add unfortunately. Would really like to see some performance data for both aircraft. I think Iīve heard somewhere that both types can take a full load on any existing route. But DONīT quote me on that.
Didnīt knew it was Sep even. Iīll try and stay away from a LCY base.
@ Baladdy. See towser reply. Havenīt got anything to add unfortunately. Would really like to see some performance data for both aircraft. I think Iīve heard somewhere that both types can take a full load on any existing route. But DONīT quote me on that.
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EMB170/190 Performance
To: DutchBird et al..............
I'm an EMB 170/190 instructor at the training facility here in Singapore. If you have any specific performance questions please PM me.
In general, it's an interesting aircraft with very good short-field performance. The biggest challenge for me was to go from 'steam driven' (747 Classic) to ultra-modern electronics......at the ripe old age of 60
I'm an EMB 170/190 instructor at the training facility here in Singapore. If you have any specific performance questions please PM me.
In general, it's an interesting aircraft with very good short-field performance. The biggest challenge for me was to go from 'steam driven' (747 Classic) to ultra-modern electronics......at the ripe old age of 60
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With the acquistion of Cityflyer's EMB 170's are Cityflyer going to base their first operational aircraft at LCY or EDI which, after all, is supposed to be their main base? From what I hear, its seems LCY is going to the initial base for the Embraer. I hope this is not the case.
How can anything be based at London City ? It doesn't have a hangar, it doesn't even have any ramp area where maintenance can be performed. If there is an AOG it has to be shoved right up in the weeds in the far corner of the Jet Centre until a visiting engineering team can sort it out.
It will be interesting to see how the New York A318s are handled as well. Will they have work done in New York ?
It will be interesting to see how the New York A318s are handled as well. Will they have work done in New York ?
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So being based means that maintenance is done on site? BA don't have Airbuses based at GLA but that's where they go for maintenance. I recall that the A318s will be maintained at LHR, with hops in and out as required.
I know CityFlyer have engineering staff at LCY and I believe others do as well. It's not as bad as you paint it.
There are lots of airports without hangars for airliners......
I know CityFlyer have engineering staff at LCY and I believe others do as well. It's not as bad as you paint it.
There are lots of airports without hangars for airliners......
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Is that the Ferranti Hangar beside the GAT where all the smart Exec Jets park up ? If so, it must be rented as required, don't think it belongs to BA or any of its wholly owned companies, but I guess I could be wrong, but I doubt it.
I guess like LCY, they have a few grunts checking the tyres and completing daily inspections etc.
Nice to know respect for your fellow professionals is alive and well.
You have to have the aircraft based for maintenance purposes somewhere so you know when you can write all the defects up that you have "carried" on the day's multiple sectors.
BTW There has been an internal vacancy out for months at LCY for B1 and B2 "grunts" but there are no takers. Wonder why?
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Turin,
I did not wish to appear disrespectful to our engineering colleagues, it so happens it is an affectionate name for them, for reasons you can figure out for yourself. I have the greatest admiration for them, working outside at this time of the year, when it is cold, wet and blowing a gale trying to fix something.
FF
I did not wish to appear disrespectful to our engineering colleagues, it so happens it is an affectionate name for them, for reasons you can figure out for yourself. I have the greatest admiration for them, working outside at this time of the year, when it is cold, wet and blowing a gale trying to fix something.
FF
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There is a considerable reduction in planned and unplanned maintenance man-hours on a modern Regional Jet such as a ERJ 170/190 compared to the BAE RJ aircraft.
Yes of course with new aircraft there are settling in teething troubles but overall the design gives an advantage.
Less time is spent finding out which system component has failed. This means that far less hangar time is required.
More time can be spent fixing the interior after customer wear and tear.
Yes of course with new aircraft there are settling in teething troubles but overall the design gives an advantage.
Less time is spent finding out which system component has failed. This means that far less hangar time is required.
More time can be spent fixing the interior after customer wear and tear.
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Does anyone know BACF plans on recruitment for the E170 / E190 are the planning on retraining their RJ guys or will they be looking to recruit new crews?
I only ask as i have a 170 /190 rating on a UK JAA license and wanted to know what my options are.
ps does anyone know when the 1st a/c is due to be in service?
thanks
I only ask as i have a 170 /190 rating on a UK JAA license and wanted to know what my options are.
ps does anyone know when the 1st a/c is due to be in service?
thanks
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BarbiesBoyfriend,
Why would I wish to spoil the habit of a lifetime? Me outside, in the weather, come, come my dear chap, anyway, must go, the staff are required to pull up the drawbridge for the night. Do mind the moat, if you are wandering about. I expect you are looking forward to the barbiejets big brother, it looks nice in the BA livery, almost as nice as our even bigger EMB in Flybe livery!
Warm wishes ....
FF
Why would I wish to spoil the habit of a lifetime? Me outside, in the weather, come, come my dear chap, anyway, must go, the staff are required to pull up the drawbridge for the night. Do mind the moat, if you are wandering about. I expect you are looking forward to the barbiejets big brother, it looks nice in the BA livery, almost as nice as our even bigger EMB in Flybe livery!
Warm wishes ....
FF
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Leading Edge; First aircraft due to arrive in September with others following in quick succession. First course around mid June I believe. As far as recruitment is concerned all RJ crews will be trained on the EMB and as far as I'm aware the last intake has just started or just about to start their RJ ground school. But might be worth dropping a CV in ,you never know if you don't ask!
P.S. Flatspin - How is the Dash?
P.S. Flatspin - How is the Dash?
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Summer 09 Timetable
Looks like BACF have started to publsh their Summer 09 Timetable.
All is subject to change but as it currently stands:
AMS - Remains 4 x daily M-F, No big timetable changes.
BCN - Remains 6 x weekly M-F
DUB- Remains 3 x daily, with slight timetable change. (Shown Below)
ex LCY BA8463 will change from a 10:50 departure to a 13:05 departure
ex DUB BA8464 will change from a 14:50 departure to a 15:00 departure
EDI - Back to 10 x daily M-F, With some slight time changes (Shown Below)
ex LCY BA8702 will change from a 08:55 departure to a 08:40 departure.
BA8716 will change from a 13:45 departure to a 13:00 departure.
BA8706 will change from a 16:20 departure to a 16:00 departure.
BA8718 will change from a 20:10 departure to a 20:10 departure.
ex EDI BA8709 will change from a 18:25 departure to a 18:05 departure.
FRA - Remains 4 x daily M-F, With one major return journey time change
ex LCY BA8738 moves from a 11:35 departure to a 15:50 departure
ex FRA BA8737 moves from a 15:05 departure to a 19:20 departure meaning a new later evening service ex FRA.
GLA - Remains 5 x daily M-F, With Some slight time changes (Shown Below)
ex LCY BA8726 will change from a 13:40 departure to a 14:00 departure
ex GLA BA8725 will change from a 11:40 departure to a 12:10 departure
GVA - Winter only route non op Summer 09
LYS - Winter only route non op Summer 09
MAD - Remains 2 x daily M-f
NCE - Returns to 2 x daily M-f for Summer 09
WAW - Sadly not returning for Summer 09
ZRH - Remains 4 x Daily, With minor timetable change (Shown Below)
ex LCY BA8765 moves from a 12:05 departure to a 12:55 departure
BA8769 moves from a 18:00 departure to a 18:15 departure
ex ZRH BA8764 moves from a 13:10 departure to a 11:30 departure
BA8766 moves from a 16:35 departure to a 16:55 departure
There are some flights where departure has only changed by 5 mins so not listed.
Any rumours of new Summer 09 routes??
All is subject to change but as it currently stands:
AMS - Remains 4 x daily M-F, No big timetable changes.
BCN - Remains 6 x weekly M-F
DUB- Remains 3 x daily, with slight timetable change. (Shown Below)
ex LCY BA8463 will change from a 10:50 departure to a 13:05 departure
ex DUB BA8464 will change from a 14:50 departure to a 15:00 departure
EDI - Back to 10 x daily M-F, With some slight time changes (Shown Below)
ex LCY BA8702 will change from a 08:55 departure to a 08:40 departure.
BA8716 will change from a 13:45 departure to a 13:00 departure.
BA8706 will change from a 16:20 departure to a 16:00 departure.
BA8718 will change from a 20:10 departure to a 20:10 departure.
ex EDI BA8709 will change from a 18:25 departure to a 18:05 departure.
FRA - Remains 4 x daily M-F, With one major return journey time change
ex LCY BA8738 moves from a 11:35 departure to a 15:50 departure
ex FRA BA8737 moves from a 15:05 departure to a 19:20 departure meaning a new later evening service ex FRA.
GLA - Remains 5 x daily M-F, With Some slight time changes (Shown Below)
ex LCY BA8726 will change from a 13:40 departure to a 14:00 departure
ex GLA BA8725 will change from a 11:40 departure to a 12:10 departure
GVA - Winter only route non op Summer 09
LYS - Winter only route non op Summer 09
MAD - Remains 2 x daily M-f
NCE - Returns to 2 x daily M-f for Summer 09
WAW - Sadly not returning for Summer 09
ZRH - Remains 4 x Daily, With minor timetable change (Shown Below)
ex LCY BA8765 moves from a 12:05 departure to a 12:55 departure
BA8769 moves from a 18:00 departure to a 18:15 departure
ex ZRH BA8764 moves from a 13:10 departure to a 11:30 departure
BA8766 moves from a 16:35 departure to a 16:55 departure
There are some flights where departure has only changed by 5 mins so not listed.
Any rumours of new Summer 09 routes??
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CE Seating Change
BA announced a few months ago that the CE cabin configuration will change in 10 days time (23FEB09) from the unpopular 2:3 seating to a standard 2:2 seating. This also applies to BACF's RJ's. Giving pax in Club more room.
Personally I think this move will be welcomed by BACF's CE customers.
Personally I think this move will be welcomed by BACF's CE customers.