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Bye bye BA
Read it in the Irish Times this morning that from Wednesday next BA will axe its Dublin/London City route. It is so sad really. Gatwick is being axed and now the new route. Here was me looking forward to the arrival of the BA e jets.
All that said, the passenger numbers on the route did not really increase even though the capacity had almost doubled. Does anyone know what were the loads like?
This bring back memories; February & March 1991 BA axed its Cork/Shannon/Dublin- London Heathrow routes that's almost 18 years ago! And here we go again. Cork and Shannon had daily rotations and they were withdrawn ahead of the season end. And Dublin was x6 a day with the first departure in the morning (in the last season) at 0615 and at that time that hour of the morning was simply unheard of for a London flight!
A combination of Boeing 73S and BAC1-11s were, I have gone off the point but I remember this so well and I was only a young lad at that time!!
All that said, the passenger numbers on the route did not really increase even though the capacity had almost doubled. Does anyone know what were the loads like?
This bring back memories; February & March 1991 BA axed its Cork/Shannon/Dublin- London Heathrow routes that's almost 18 years ago! And here we go again. Cork and Shannon had daily rotations and they were withdrawn ahead of the season end. And Dublin was x6 a day with the first departure in the morning (in the last season) at 0615 and at that time that hour of the morning was simply unheard of for a London flight!
A combination of Boeing 73S and BAC1-11s were, I have gone off the point but I remember this so well and I was only a young lad at that time!!
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Parky747 even the employees cant explain Didsbury!!! But general understanding is that office space was available in Didsbury and there are some decent golf clubs nearby!!!
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The reason for Didsbury is that someone long since left BA signed a rather long lease on the building. Here at BA we to wonder why it is located when there is so much space at LHR being payed for but unused. Cannot answer as to whether the operation makes any money or not. BA has a poor record for making money on similar exercises?
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Rosco its almost impossible to tell if BAcityflyer makes money, because at the end of the day BA can make the money figures reflect what they want them to, as they have done in previous icarnations of this company. BA have a reason for Cityflyer, what that reason is only time will tell.
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I think Marlowe has hit the nail on the head - its not so much what Cityflyer is now, but instead what plans BA might have for them in the future. At a time of economic downturn and cutbacks in the banking sector, which provides a reasonable amount of Cityflyer's LCY traffic, it seems strange that BA should invest in a fleet of new aircraft. If they are profitable at the moment, I'd be very surprised. My guess is that they see Cityflyer as a means of eventually moving some mainline shorthaul work to a lower cost base. The time may not yet be right, there would be massive opposition and it wouldn't be easy. However, with the limited expansion opportunities at LCY, the only other reason I can think of for the forthcoming investment is that BA are keeping them up their sleeve for some future plan.
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Extra flights to NCE this week
Does anyone know the reason behind the extra services to NCE this Monday, Tuesday and Friday. The flights are.
On Monday they are operating 3 flights
BA8475 LCY 10:50 NCE 13:55
BA8477 LCY 14:00 NCE 17:05
BA8473 LCY 17:00 NCE 20:05
On Tuesday they are also operating 3 flights.
BA8473 LCY 06:50 NCE 09:55
BA8475 LCY 09:25 NCE 12:30
BA8477 LCY 10:15 NCE 13:20
On Friday also 3 flights operating
BA8477 LCY 07:00 NCE 10:05
BA8475 LCY 09:15 NCE 12:20
BA8477 LCY 11:10 NCE 14:05
On Monday they are operating 3 flights
BA8475 LCY 10:50 NCE 13:55
BA8477 LCY 14:00 NCE 17:05
BA8473 LCY 17:00 NCE 20:05
On Tuesday they are also operating 3 flights.
BA8473 LCY 06:50 NCE 09:55
BA8475 LCY 09:25 NCE 12:30
BA8477 LCY 10:15 NCE 13:20
On Friday also 3 flights operating
BA8477 LCY 07:00 NCE 10:05
BA8475 LCY 09:15 NCE 12:20
BA8477 LCY 11:10 NCE 14:05
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Originally Posted by BAladdy
Does anyone know the reason behind the extra services to NCE this Monday, Tuesday and Friday?
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100above, Cityflyer have been in a unique position the last 2 years, in that they have almost been a holding company for BAs plans for LCY and really havent had to concentrate on making a profit because what BA wanted was to establish a better presence at LCY. Now what of the future? Well it would have been easy for BA to have let the LCY operation go to Flybe 2 years ago with BACON but they didnt, also with the currant economic climate it would also have been easy to have shut Cityflyer once the RJs reverted back to mainline under the scope agreement in 2010 but they havent, what you have is an investment of new equipment. Now BA did not just aquire a new fleet of aircraft without having a plan for this investment, and you cant tell me that the economic downturn was not foreseen by a company as large as BA, and yet they still went ahead with a new fleet for BAcityflyer so there must be a master plan somewhere what it is well who knows? I think that the Cityflyer you see today with its route structure is not the Cityflyer you may see in the future once the E jets are online.
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Any prospect of an MAN - LCY service ?
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Totally respect you for your opinion, but if its less hassle and sometimes cost for someone to fly then thats their choice to make - personally i think there will always be a market for London (all airports) services to Manchester - i flew two weeks ago to Manchester as i worked till 3pm on the Friday and needed to be in Manchester by 18:30 and thats what i was able to do thanks to flying and will be flying the route again next weekend - albeit from Heathrow, as the thought of driving or going by train for the 24 hour visit am making vs the plane is a no brainer - the plane wins on cost, reduced hassle, comfort etc .
Totally respect you for your opinion, but if its less hassle and sometimes cost for someone to fly then thats their choice to make - personally i think there will always be a market for London (all airports) services to Manchester - i flew two weeks ago to Manchester as i worked till 3pm on the Friday and needed to be in Manchester by 18:30 and thats what i was able to do thanks to flying and will be flying the route again next weekend - albeit from Heathrow, as the thought of driving or going by train for the 24 hour visit am making vs the plane is a no brainer - the plane wins on cost, reduced hassle, comfort etc .
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Summer 09 Timetable
I see BACF are really playing with their timetable. Really suprised to see MAD canx over the school easter holidays (No flights ex LCY 13th-19th April).
British Airways' Speedbird Club: Guideline - BA CityFlyer cancellations Apr 09
Could understand a frequency cut to say FRA or ZRH during this time but I would have thought MAD would be one of the busiest over thid time.
When you look at July's timetable there seems to be alot of periods with aircraft not doing anything. BCN is already looking busy in the summer. Why are they not looking at adding more flights at peak times say Thursday to Monday.
Anyone know whats happening guessing we aint seeing any new routes!!.
British Airways' Speedbird Club: Guideline - BA CityFlyer cancellations Apr 09
Could understand a frequency cut to say FRA or ZRH during this time but I would have thought MAD would be one of the busiest over thid time.
When you look at July's timetable there seems to be alot of periods with aircraft not doing anything. BCN is already looking busy in the summer. Why are they not looking at adding more flights at peak times say Thursday to Monday.
Anyone know whats happening guessing we aint seeing any new routes!!.