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The E190 can get around 2,200nm for the SR
Take Off Field Length, ISA, SL, TOW for 500nm 4,157ft 1,267m
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Very good news for all those at BACF. A very exciting time for all, and a bullish move from BA.
The operation, and the workers undoubtedly deserve it.
You won't be shocked if I say I am surprised the company has chosen now to make this large capital investment. However deserved it is. Still, at least when they come to us (and BACF?) looking for cost cuts in the New Year, we all now know where we stand. Apparently this company is not short of cash!
Compliments of the season to all.
The operation, and the workers undoubtedly deserve it.
You won't be shocked if I say I am surprised the company has chosen now to make this large capital investment. However deserved it is. Still, at least when they come to us (and BACF?) looking for cost cuts in the New Year, we all now know where we stand. Apparently this company is not short of cash!
Compliments of the season to all.
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Don't know anything about the performance. Would be really interesting to find out especially what the E-190 could do.
Expecting two aircraft to arrive in SEP 09. Training will start halfway through 09 through OAA and sim in Gatwick. (NOT CONFIRMED!) First ones to finish the Embraer type in a couple of weeks already! (trainers, managers etc)
@ VVIP-FA, welcome to the club! There are rumors of new routes but I don't expect anything to materialise on short or medium term. Let's get the transition between fleets done properly and also focus on our current operation and customers. 2 Cabin crew per E-Jet and they don't expect any redundancies.
@ BAladdy. Currently we have 2 cabin crew on the RJ85 and 3 on the RJ100. We can operate the RJ100 with 2 cabin crew under special circumstances and with special approval.
Expecting two aircraft to arrive in SEP 09. Training will start halfway through 09 through OAA and sim in Gatwick. (NOT CONFIRMED!) First ones to finish the Embraer type in a couple of weeks already! (trainers, managers etc)
@ VVIP-FA, welcome to the club! There are rumors of new routes but I don't expect anything to materialise on short or medium term. Let's get the transition between fleets done properly and also focus on our current operation and customers. 2 Cabin crew per E-Jet and they don't expect any redundancies.
@ BAladdy. Currently we have 2 cabin crew on the RJ85 and 3 on the RJ100. We can operate the RJ100 with 2 cabin crew under special circumstances and with special approval.
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"Apparently this company is not short of cash!"
Do you think, that these new aircraft will be purchased with a big fat cheque from BA???
Aircraft are leased, and the cost to lease these will be slightly more than the cost to lease the RJ's but with less maintenance costs.
What this does show is a longer term commitment to BACF not a big bundle of cash to splash !!!
Do you think, that these new aircraft will be purchased with a big fat cheque from BA???
Aircraft are leased, and the cost to lease these will be slightly more than the cost to lease the RJ's but with less maintenance costs.
What this does show is a longer term commitment to BACF not a big bundle of cash to splash !!!
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I am genuinely pleased for the boys and girls at the coal face. As I have already said. Exciting times.
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In response to your post, all I would say is;
Perhaps what you mean is; a longer term commitment to BACF's current Terms and Conditions.
If that makes you happy(slapper), I can only assume you are management.
(Or a 'big' BALPA rep?)
happyslapper
In response to your post, all I would say is;
What this does show is a longer term commitment to BACF
If that makes you happy(slapper), I can only assume you are management.
(Or a 'big' BALPA rep?)
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Perhaps what you mean is; a longer term commitment to BACF's current Terms and Conditions.
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Funny how things work out, the E170 was destined for BRAL before BA got involved.
Good news for all of the guys at CityFlyer, good luck with the future.
Hopefully BA will let you get on with things now without the noose of the RJ's.
Good news for all of the guys at CityFlyer, good luck with the future.
Hopefully BA will let you get on with things now without the noose of the RJ's.
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BA orders 11 Embraer regional jets for CityFlyer
By Nicholas Ionides
British Airways (BA) has ordered 11 Embraer regional jets for use by its BA CityFlyer subsidiary. Embraer says in a statement that the deal comprises six E-170s and five E-190SRs on firm order, plus options for three more E-190SRs.
By Nicholas Ionides
British Airways (BA) has ordered 11 Embraer regional jets for use by its BA CityFlyer subsidiary. Embraer says in a statement that the deal comprises six E-170s and five E-190SRs on firm order, plus options for three more E-190SRs.
Also looking forward to a bit less noise from RJ100 flaps deploying over my SE London home...
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Interesting and exciting choice. Lovely, modern a/c to fly. Well thought out and confortable interior, and very popular with crews and pax alike. Seat pitch may possibly be up to 36" - the rows behind the overwing exit have a slightly greater pitch than the rows in front.
TRs most likely to take place at OAA in Crawley.
TRs most likely to take place at OAA in Crawley.
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DB757, I assume through your posts, you must be management, or a very senior person within Cityflyer as you appear to have great clarity as to what is going on and I thank you for your informed knowledge, as I said previously, I am delighted with the news for all at Cityflyer, has anyone explained to you, why, in this downturn, it will take so long before the first two are delivered in Sept 2009 - I realise the trainers and the like have to be trained, but why so long, its almost 9 months, I suppose its a bit like conception, when I think about it. Yeh, its a nice pic, not sure if I would call it sexy though! It looks better than an HS 146 or RJ, I will grant you that. Have fun with it.
100above - well presented post, it is intriguing as you said, 2009 will be interesting.
Merry Christmas all.
100above - well presented post, it is intriguing as you said, 2009 will be interesting.
Merry Christmas all.
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Flatspin, DB757 management! best laugh all day bet he is laughing as well !!!!!! In the grand scheme of things 9 months is not really that long to get all the elements in place needed to run a new fleet.
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Far from it 'F F'. Just love my job and like to discuss this exiting news about 'my' company.
Don't think it takes that long before the first aircraft are joining our fleet. Remember it has a tremendous impact on many departments. First trainers/managers to finish the typerating will then start writing the manuals etc. Not something done overnight. I personally think that 9 months from signing the deal to a getting the new aircraft type, plus phasing out the AVRO's is challenging. You are basically running three operations at once. (maintainng your current operation, phasing out the AVRO's and introduction of E-Jets)
Don't think it takes that long before the first aircraft are joining our fleet. Remember it has a tremendous impact on many departments. First trainers/managers to finish the typerating will then start writing the manuals etc. Not something done overnight. I personally think that 9 months from signing the deal to a getting the new aircraft type, plus phasing out the AVRO's is challenging. You are basically running three operations at once. (maintainng your current operation, phasing out the AVRO's and introduction of E-Jets)
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Marlowe and DB757,
I guess you must be correct, perhaps I am out of touch, I used to have a PPL, but that lapsed a very long time ago, but I still have a keen interest in airlines and aeroplanes, hence me following these posts.
FF
I guess you must be correct, perhaps I am out of touch, I used to have a PPL, but that lapsed a very long time ago, but I still have a keen interest in airlines and aeroplanes, hence me following these posts.
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Great news for the Avro pilots out there! Welcome to the 21st Century:
JetPhotos.Net Photo » G-FBEM (CN: 19000204) Flybe Embraer 190-200LR by Neil Lomax
Although I would still be happy flying one of these too:
Photos: BAE Systems Avro 146-RJ100 Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net
Great news for the new year! Those E190s should be fun to watch operating out of LCY. On that subject, any news on potential hiring at Cityflyer?
JetPhotos.Net Photo » G-FBEM (CN: 19000204) Flybe Embraer 190-200LR by Neil Lomax
Although I would still be happy flying one of these too:
Photos: BAE Systems Avro 146-RJ100 Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net
Great news for the new year! Those E190s should be fun to watch operating out of LCY. On that subject, any news on potential hiring at Cityflyer?