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From your post, are we correct in thinking nobody told you CX (as long as you mean BACX and not Cathay Pacific!) was sold - or more accurately, given away - some years ago?
Maybe that's part of the trouble with Waterworld - Always on the ball eh!
From your post, are we correct in thinking nobody told you CX (as long as you mean BACX and not Cathay Pacific!) was sold - or more accurately, given away - some years ago?
Maybe that's part of the trouble with Waterworld - Always on the ball eh!
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Correct me if I'm wrong but as the main revenue driver, the LCY-EDI service is ( was ) completely bankrolled by a now panic stricken RBS, are you guys honestly expecting major capital investment? HOPE you get it but.......
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I was affectionately refering to BA CityFlyer which was a well run profit making outfit until we got to grips with it. I cannot recall any airline / outfit that we have spawned / bought / modified that we can actually boast of that has been a great success. Before you mention 'Go' most of us forget that it had a blank cheque when it started up and BA's finance behind it. I agree with Skipness, at present, as I said there are far greater problems aside from LHR there is LGW which is beset with financial woes far greater than new a/c for LCY.
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I was affectionately refering to BA CityFlyer which was a well run profit making outfit until we got to grips with it.
I think the best example I ever heard was the CWL-GLA route that was flown by the Jetstream 41. This had been a good route for Manx ( Europe ) and later British Regional Airlines. The day and hour that BA took them over, the different internal accounting structures flagged the route as a heavy loss maker and it was binned, so begininng the dismantling that ended with the sale to flybe a few years later.
I think this is the reason they need to keep BA CitiFlyer at arms length, as the moment they bring RJ100s flying from LCY in house, it will show major losses, more so than now if that's the case.
Such is the sheer complexity of running a large business! I'm not criticising, I just wish we were all better at it, myself included. This is also the reason that many feel patience is at an end with continued bleeding cash at Gatwick.
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London City web site shows 14.10 arrival from EDI (BA8719) cancelled but the afternoon Dublin looks on for now. Apparently G-FLTF has been returned to Southend and I guess G-FLTB will follow. Perhaps BACF will be in the market for more wet-lease very soon? Or an opportunity to optimise capacity / utilisation of existing fleet?
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Problem is that there is a very limited choice when it come the leasing in LCY-capable jet equipment. The only other European carriers in the wet-leasing business with 146s I can think of are WDL and Transwede. Not sure if WDL has brought its fleet to LCY standards, and Transwede certainly is busy with the SAS contract. And I am sure that other Flightline customers will be after them as well, e.g. Ford for their corporate shuttle between SEN and CGN.
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Question here about VB's comment. Has Flightline gone belly up? Might explain why I'm now changed to do the Dublin tomorrow. Hmmm...
SAS are rumored to be looking to end their deal with Transwede.
SAS are rumored to be looking to end their deal with Transwede.
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SAS are rumored to be looking to end their deal with Transwede.
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That would be a big surprise. LCY-CPH is 950km. LCY-MUC is shorter and despite using much faster Q400s and Dornier 328s, it was felt that it was too long for a (fast) turboprop and an Avro RJ85 was put in use. CPH is about the same distance from LCY as Milan.
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As of 1430hrs today, G-FLTB was 'staying put' in EDI. Had been towed from the SE Pier am and parked over by the cargo ramp. BAA were insisting it stayed till further notice...
2 cancellations AM out of EDI due to 'Operational Reasons'... aka Administration procedures taking place to wind up Flight Line...
2 cancellations AM out of EDI due to 'Operational Reasons'... aka Administration procedures taking place to wind up Flight Line...
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Will BACF start pulling more flights because of FLT going in admininstration??.
I know Titan have operated some of the flights on BACF's behalf yesterday.
Anyone any word on what BACF are gonna do now. Are they gonna look at leasing in 146's and if this happend would the flight crew need retraining or can RJ85/100 flight crew also fly the Bae 146's?
I know Titan have operated some of the flights on BACF's behalf yesterday.
Anyone any word on what BACF are gonna do now. Are they gonna look at leasing in 146's and if this happend would the flight crew need retraining or can RJ85/100 flight crew also fly the Bae 146's?