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Flew out of Cork last night. You know, it does not take much to make the new terminal at Cork look very busy. There were two Wizz Air flights from Wroclaw and Pozanan, the Ryanair to Stansted, EI to LHR and the two EI/RE ATR72s and the airside areas humming with activity. If and when good times return to Cork I think it will be often be bursting at the seams. All good loads last night and with the recent host of weather related diversions to Cork from Dublin it should all go for a good end of year finale.
A flourish at the end of a pretty dismal year but nothing sums up the DAA involvement in Cork Airport better than the gleaming three white buckets set about in different locations around the airside area to mop up the new terminal roof leaks!
The first seasonal ski flight is due today in the shape of a FlyBe ERJ 195 to Salzburg. A good place to visit.
A flourish at the end of a pretty dismal year but nothing sums up the DAA involvement in Cork Airport better than the gleaming three white buckets set about in different locations around the airside area to mop up the new terminal roof leaks!
The first seasonal ski flight is due today in the shape of a FlyBe ERJ 195 to Salzburg. A good place to visit.
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DAA's attitude to Cork
Also an indication of the DAA's attitude to Cork are the magnificant airbridges at terminal 2 in Dublin many of which proudly carry Aerlingus' name on them. This is the same Aerlingus that told the DAA that they didn't require the use of airbridges at Cork as they delayed the turnaround times. With Ryanair also not interested it gave the DAA the perfect excuse to cancel the plan to put 4 airbridges in the new terminal. As a result passengers of all ages have to carry their bags up
two flights of stairs to the arrivals hall. To be fair to Ryanair at least they are consistant with their no airbridge policy.
two flights of stairs to the arrivals hall. To be fair to Ryanair at least they are consistant with their no airbridge policy.
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Europeairpost.
Lots of talk in the media about Europe Airpost expanding out of Ireland next year. It was said that their 2nd plane would operate out of Cork at weekends on various I.T. Charters. Yet their is no sign of the airline operating for any of the tour operators as a based aircraft. A bit puzzling.
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Originally Posted by ryan2000
Also an indication of the DAA's attitude to Cork are the magnificant airbridges at terminal 2 in Dublin many of which proudly carry Aerlingus' name on them. This is the same Aerlingus that told the DAA that they didn't require the use of airbridges at Cork as they delayed the turnaround times. With Ryanair also not interested it gave the DAA the perfect excuse to cancel the plan to put 4 airbridges in the new terminal. As a result passengers of all ages have to carry their bags up two flights of stairs to the arrivals hall. To be fair to Ryanair at least they are consistant with their no airbridge policy.
Speaking of which, seeing as we have a Fine Gael Transport Spokesman who is from Cork and has to put up with the same crap we do, has anyone here ventured to find out what the FG policy towards the DAA and Cork Airport will be ?
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Speaking of which, seeing as we have a Fine Gael Transport Spokesman who is from Cork and has to put up with the same crap we do, has anyone here ventured to find out what the FG policy towards the DAA and Cork Airport will be ?
More Turkey flights 2011 with new Irish tour operator Wings Abroad.
Tailwind Airlines - Cork - Izmir from May 15 once weekly.
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Originally Posted by Jamie2k9
I think FG will want to get Ryanair back into Shannon before they consider Cork.
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Future of DAA
The plan to split the 3 airports was announced in 2003! It's obvious now that it was never clearly thought through. Cork and certainly Shannon were never going to be viable entities unless major changes in Work
practices etc were undertaken. What the future holds is anyones guess. The Motorways to Cork and Limerick have if anything strenghtened Dublins grip. The only serious competition
is between Cork and Shannon and even that's limited to a handful of routes.
practices etc were undertaken. What the future holds is anyones guess. The Motorways to Cork and Limerick have if anything strenghtened Dublins grip. The only serious competition
is between Cork and Shannon and even that's limited to a handful of routes.
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Originally Posted by ryan2000
The plan to split the 3 airports was announced in 2003! It's obvious now that it was never clearly thought through. Cork and certainly Shannon were never going to be viable entities unless major changes in Work
practices etc were undertaken. What the future holds is anyones guess. The Motorways to Cork and Limerick have if anything strenghtened Dublins grip. The only serious competition is between Cork and Shannon and even that's limited to a handful of routes.
practices etc were undertaken. What the future holds is anyones guess. The Motorways to Cork and Limerick have if anything strenghtened Dublins grip. The only serious competition is between Cork and Shannon and even that's limited to a handful of routes.
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Cork 2010
Cork had just over 2.4m in 2010 which is somewhere between the 2004 and 2005 totals. Traffic has declined each month since November 2008. Hopefully a way will be found to stop the rot in 2011. There are grounds for optimism with several new outbound charters being announced and modest expansion by Ryanair, Wizz and Aer Arann. There have been
a few media reports about the Aerlingus new route to Palma and the extra flights to Teneriffe and Faro but they must have forgot to mention the cuts in frequency on other routes and the suspension of the Winter services to Batcelona and Rome.
a few media reports about the Aerlingus new route to Palma and the extra flights to Teneriffe and Faro but they must have forgot to mention the cuts in frequency on other routes and the suspension of the Winter services to Batcelona and Rome.
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Compared to last year, there will be one A320 fewer from January to March, but one extra ATR72 throughout the year.
In general, that should produce a slight increase in passengers, but the number will be so small that it could be undone by a reduction in load. If we're to see a real improvement, we need to see either Aer Lingus back up to 4 aircraft for the Winter months or Ryanair staying at 2 year round.
But the elephant in the room is the Irish economy. With the average household down a four figure sum as a result of the budget, cutting out a short break is an easy way to save that money. Putting the planes there isn't going to mean a thing if there is no demand.
Alternatively, the airport could focus on getting in non-based aircraft, bringing in inbound passengers, but that seems to have been beyond them in recent years.
Regarding the DAA situation, what is needed is some certainty. If the DAA think they will lose Cork Airport soon, they are going to try to encourage traffic to Dublin. If they think they will have it for at least 20 years, they will try to develop Cork.
So either the DAA need to be removed from control or they need to be told with certainty that Cork won't be split away. Uncertainty will just make the problems continue.
In general, that should produce a slight increase in passengers, but the number will be so small that it could be undone by a reduction in load. If we're to see a real improvement, we need to see either Aer Lingus back up to 4 aircraft for the Winter months or Ryanair staying at 2 year round.
But the elephant in the room is the Irish economy. With the average household down a four figure sum as a result of the budget, cutting out a short break is an easy way to save that money. Putting the planes there isn't going to mean a thing if there is no demand.
Alternatively, the airport could focus on getting in non-based aircraft, bringing in inbound passengers, but that seems to have been beyond them in recent years.
Regarding the DAA situation, what is needed is some certainty. If the DAA think they will lose Cork Airport soon, they are going to try to encourage traffic to Dublin. If they think they will have it for at least 20 years, they will try to develop Cork.
So either the DAA need to be removed from control or they need to be told with certainty that Cork won't be split away. Uncertainty will just make the problems continue.
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You can't say that Ryanair have 2 based aircraft in ORK during the summer. One of the aircraft will only be in ORK at night time to operate the morning DUB flight and the evening return.
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So that's a quarter of Cork Airport's passengers gone in two years, which is a huge number under any circumstances, although the overall economy has to be taken into account as well.
It looks like every airport on the island other than Belfast City will have recorded passenger number reductions in 2010. Let's hope that 2011 finally sees an end to the reductions of passengers and services and is the year that we finally reach the bottom and begin to grow again.
It looks like every airport on the island other than Belfast City will have recorded passenger number reductions in 2010. Let's hope that 2011 finally sees an end to the reductions of passengers and services and is the year that we finally reach the bottom and begin to grow again.
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Compared to last year, there will be one A320 fewer from January to March, but one extra ATR72 throughout the year.
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Ryanair and Cork
Ryanair's based aircraft returns to Cork via LPL after operating the early Dublin flight. and operates to LGW and various Sun Destinations for the rest of the day. In general their Cork operation in 2011 appears to be at an all time high and more importantly it's based on Sustainable Routes.
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Interesting to see the early morning LGW is now operated to SNN. The advertising about the early bird has also been reused, albeit with Shannon replacing Cork.
It's a shame that Cork has not been able to sustain 3 daily flights to LGW. Last summer the spread of morning and evening with EI and mid-day with FR offered a nice bit of flexibility.
It's a shame that Cork has not been able to sustain 3 daily flights to LGW. Last summer the spread of morning and evening with EI and mid-day with FR offered a nice bit of flexibility.
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Last edited by Jamie2k9; 6th Jan 2011 at 10:59.