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Old 23rd Feb 2007, 12:51
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Seems nothing concrete yet about the new Air France / Scot flights, with just a few weeks to go to the start.

No new schedules on the Air France or Cityjet sites, the LCY site, or any of the main booking systems. Just an issue to me as I need to do a business trip to Belfast soon and would be nice to try the new service rather than go through the timewasting of going up to Stansted.

Scot Airways website describes a new 0650 early morning flight from LCY to Edinburgh and back operated by a 146 - presumably a Cityjet one. This seems to miss the market, as that is really too early for much northbound business, and by the time it comes back south the peak from Edinburgh has passed. Is this the start of Cityjet taking over the route ?

Regarding the codeshare, I hadn't noticed previously that Scot are still codesharing with Flybe on the Edinburgh route, long after Flybe otherwise got out of LCY. Is this going to continue ?
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No reason why the 605 couldnt operate transatlantic from LCY. Dassault Falcons do it from LCY reasonably regularly to places like Teterboro and Washington.
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Err except it would turn into a glider somewhere over the Atlantic!
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Old 28th Feb 2007, 09:33
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Everyday is a funday at LCY!

I have never seen G-LCYA or any biz jet go out across the pond. A few have come in from long distance.

I would be impressed if the climb out gradient and lack of runway length allowed it.
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7X will do it !
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Old 28th Feb 2007, 16:06
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http://flightaware.com/live/flight/H...627Z/EGLC/KTTN

31st Jan EGLC-KTTN 7h47m
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Old 28th Feb 2007, 21:38
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Blimey..... Impressed!
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Old 28th Feb 2007, 21:59
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Indeed! I remember seeing it at the time and being pretty certain I'd never seen anything do it before!
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Originally Posted by AlanM
I would be impressed if the climb out gradient and lack of runway length allowed it.
Just a quick question here but as I understand it the climbout gradient in both directions is limited by structures, Canary Wharf tower to the west and the ELRC bridge to the east.

Except that the ELRC bridge has not been built yet. As it stands when you look to the east everything is clear. So if you are on 10 at EGLC is the theoretical climbout restriction still in force ? I'm aware that operators do sometimes request the reciprocal runway to that in use for "performance reasons".
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I would guess that the climbout gradient is more to do with noise abatement than anything else off 10.

Opposite direct departures happens a lot - a F50 often has to have 10 when the wind is right across and often with a slight tailwind component.
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Old 1st Mar 2007, 16:07
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Spanish flea, I think the 900EX is the only machine capable of this feat until the 7X comes into service.Challenger will not have the range.
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Old 2nd Mar 2007, 15:37
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Do tell more.........
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Old 3rd Mar 2007, 10:45
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Wink LCY Fun Day

I am sure i read somewhere in the local paper or maybe on their web site that the fun day would be happening as usual in July this year. Lat year was great - even got to watch England lose against Portugal on a big screen they had brought in to the airport. (Ok the esult wasnt good but the day was!)
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Old 5th Mar 2007, 16:58
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Apparently trials of the CL605 went well with possibly more trails planned at a later date. However, the old problem of parking space has been brought up with the biz ramp being full to capacity at times & the Challenger isn't exactly a small aircraft.
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Old 5th Mar 2007, 22:29
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From the VLM website

VLM Airlines to introduce Jet services

BAe 146 to serve high-density London City – Rotterdam route

Antwerp, Monday 5 March 2007, VLM Airlines has today announced that it will
enhance its fleet with the introduction of a jet aircraft for the first time
The 92-seat BAe 146-300 will enter service on April 16th, 2007, and will be
operated on one of the airline’s busiest routes betweenLondon City and
Rotterdam City

The jet is being introduced into VLM Airlines’ fleet to enable it to
increase capacity on one of its busiest routes, where it will operate
alongside the carrier’s Fokker 50 aircraft. The airline will maintain its
ten daily return flights between London City and Rotterdam, with four to be
operated by the BAe 146. The airline carried over 130,000 passengers on the
route in 2006, and estimates that it will carry around 190,000 in 2007.

The VLM Airlines BAe 146-300 will seat up to 92 passengers, in a spacious
five abreast (3+2) configuration, with leather seats and a generous seat
pitch of 32 inches. This is a stark contrast to most other large airlines
which offer up to 110 seats on this type, in a tight 3+3 configuration, with
a seat pitch of just 28-29 inches.

Johan Vanneste, Managing Director of VLM Airlines comments: “We are
delighted to be introducing the BAe 146 jet to our fleet. Increasing
numbers of business travellers are utilising our network and, in particular,
our London City to Rotterdam service, and this larger, faster aircraft is
essential to meet this growing demand.“

The jet’s arrival will release some Fokker 50 capacity from its London City
to Rotterdam route, allowing VLM Airlines to increase frequencies on other
routes within its network. The airline currently operates a fleet of 19
Fokker 50 aircraft, and will add a further two of the aircraft to its fleet
this year.
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Old 7th Mar 2007, 10:32
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It now seems that the circumstances behind the City Jet (Air France) landing incident are surprisingly similar to that of the Atlantic Airways landing in Norway.
I thought the failure of some / all of the lift spoilers were a contributory factor in the Atlantic Airways incident, which wasn't the case in this instance.

Noticed that the new CJ routes are now bookable on their website.
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Old 8th Mar 2007, 20:10
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My understanding is that with effect summer schedule Swiss will nightstop an aircraft at LCY to allow for an 0700ish departure to ZRH.

Will there be other nightstoppers in addition to the long-time Cityjet 146 to ORY and the Scot Dornier to EDI now that both BA Cityflyer and Cityjet will expand like crazy ?
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Old 9th Mar 2007, 13:36
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Cityflyer due to have 2 nightstoppers in LCY
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Old 9th Mar 2007, 14:59
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I understand that Swiss already night stop an RJ for the early morning Geneva. So are we going from this pus 1 ScotAir Do328 and a CityJet 146 to adding 2 BA and another Swiss RJ?
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Old 9th Mar 2007, 17:57
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Makes sense though doesnt it? Capacity overnight and a growing catchment area around the airport?
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