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No offence Steve but your kinda missing the point. Don't see why Southampton has to be dragged into it as well. If you are interested in comparisons all you have to do is look at the arrivals/departures board to get an indication on which airport is a success.
The problem with Bournemouth is no one wants to fly there and you can not sustain a base with a smatering of outbound tourists. Ryanair have tested the water on numerous occasions and have still pulled out. Easyjet are now free to move in but havn't. Flybe have not cut one route from Southampton even in the recession because there is universial demand inbound and outbound with a majority being business passengers who are present rain or shine. Bournemouth evidently doesn't have this customer base, flybe are proving it with their Manchester route as we speak. However I do agree that Bournemouth has a big advantage in the length of its runway and space available.
The problem with Bournemouth is no one wants to fly there and you can not sustain a base with a smatering of outbound tourists. Ryanair have tested the water on numerous occasions and have still pulled out. Easyjet are now free to move in but havn't. Flybe have not cut one route from Southampton even in the recession because there is universial demand inbound and outbound with a majority being business passengers who are present rain or shine. Bournemouth evidently doesn't have this customer base, flybe are proving it with their Manchester route as we speak. However I do agree that Bournemouth has a big advantage in the length of its runway and space available.
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The problem with Bournemouth is no one wants to fly there
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Hey Mods
Obvoiusly the Ban imposed on Teleparty Second Coming ) was not enough !
He will have to be executed, to prevent any more of his drivel destracting pruners from sensible discussion.
He will have to be executed, to prevent any more of his drivel destracting pruners from sensible discussion.
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The sort of postings from second coming / Teleparty (whether one or two people) are the sort that you would see on a football forum - eg. my team is much better than yours etc., and don't belong on a forum that aims to have sensible debate on Airlines, Airports and Routes.
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I thought the point of a forum was to express your opinion? If you have read the previous post by Steve its much of the same tone is it not? I mentioned that Bournemouth has a huge advantage in the length of its runway and its general space. Maybe you guys are the managers of Bournemouth, you certainly don't like it when someone thinks differently then yourselves.
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Cover is blown !
Oh no My cover has been blown !
I am the total ******** that has brought BOH to it's Knees.
I apologise to all those that will loose their Jobs, whilst still collecting my huge salary !
I will of course do the decent thing .........................................
......and just carry on as if nothing bad has happened.
I am the total ******** that has brought BOH to it's Knees.
I apologise to all those that will loose their Jobs, whilst still collecting my huge salary !
I will of course do the decent thing .........................................
......and just carry on as if nothing bad has happened.
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Come on guys !
The Bournemouth thread up until very recently has been a constructive and interesting read , lets keep it that way with good post s that are to the point and stop this Southampton v Bournemouth along with some other pointless comments being posted
Its always good to have new posters but just just think a bit before you post some of the recent posts are way off track !!
Yep Bournemouth is going through a rough time but it will turn the corner again and hopefully good news will prevail soon
The Bournemouth thread up until very recently has been a constructive and interesting read , lets keep it that way with good post s that are to the point and stop this Southampton v Bournemouth along with some other pointless comments being posted
Its always good to have new posters but just just think a bit before you post some of the recent posts are way off track !!
Yep Bournemouth is going through a rough time but it will turn the corner again and hopefully good news will prevail soon
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I would like to ask our friend that has I think been banned once How many people from the BOH Southwest area do you think travel to SOU? I would Imagine at least 30/40%. The people to the east IE Pompy, Brighton etc probably use the London airports. As for FR pulling out they haven't unless you know otherwise. I did mention SOU your right. And, I mentioned that they cant handle widebodied aircraft when BOH can. Its not a lie.
I am also pretty dam sure if there was an LCC that operated from BOH with the routes similar to that from SOU with good pricing I know who would win. Also, Lets not forget that Flybe operate only EMB 195's and Dash 8's from SOU. That means they have a good recipe for the correct aircraft for the right route. Unlike FR who operate only 737-800's which I must say is overkill. If they had Flybe's model I'm sure they could possibly a lot more routes from regional airports. But, I am not the one to tell MOL.
I am also pretty dam sure if there was an LCC that operated from BOH with the routes similar to that from SOU with good pricing I know who would win. Also, Lets not forget that Flybe operate only EMB 195's and Dash 8's from SOU. That means they have a good recipe for the correct aircraft for the right route. Unlike FR who operate only 737-800's which I must say is overkill. If they had Flybe's model I'm sure they could possibly a lot more routes from regional airports. But, I am not the one to tell MOL.
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Long Haul?
I know there are people at BOH who are in a much better position to judge what would/would'nt work in/out of BOH, but I must admit I do think that selective long haul slots to the right destination might just have a chance from this area.
The terminal is up and running & able to expand on past pax numbers, it's just a few months until the arrivals hall is up to the same standard/capacity to handle whatever comes onto the apron. We know that the runway is capable of receiving most a/c in most conditions.
If the right destinations became available with a frequency that was sensible surely enough people in the south/west regions would relish the thought of not heading towards London for a long distance getaway.
Palmair trips to NY are alway's full, cruise links have alway's worked so why not even short breaks to East coast USA, Dubai, J'berg etc, even if only once/twice a week on rotation?
It would be nice to see a small selection of these destinations even if just on a trial basis.
The terminal is up and running & able to expand on past pax numbers, it's just a few months until the arrivals hall is up to the same standard/capacity to handle whatever comes onto the apron. We know that the runway is capable of receiving most a/c in most conditions.
If the right destinations became available with a frequency that was sensible surely enough people in the south/west regions would relish the thought of not heading towards London for a long distance getaway.
Palmair trips to NY are alway's full, cruise links have alway's worked so why not even short breaks to East coast USA, Dubai, J'berg etc, even if only once/twice a week on rotation?
It would be nice to see a small selection of these destinations even if just on a trial basis.
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Catchment areas
Hi, I an new on here, but like a few others I have also been following this thread.
It is interesting that people keep mentioning and trying to guess what an airports catchment is. eg 30 or 40 % for Sou must come from the West and poeple from Portmouth/Brighton probably go to London Airports. Dont shoot me down here but I am sure I remember that Flybe did a survey of their passengers 2 or 3 years ago at Sou and actually found that some 25% of them came from within the M25 boundary. I unfortunaltely cannot find the article but if true that sort of blows some of the theories out of the water. Sous catchment is much wider than thought of.. But then if BOH had the right routes, with the right types of aicraft then I am sure their catchment would be of a similar scale. Not quite sure you would get the same portion of people trecking down from within the M25 but you might get a few from nearer Britsol way, etc.. What I am trying to say is the travelling public look around, for instance in the last couple of years I have gone to Prague twice from Stansted, well I certainly wouldnt class myself as in the Stansted catchment but the flights were the best deal. Also, I am flying to Malta in october and did check out Ryanair from BOH but it was actually cheaper to fly Air Malta from LHR!!
All I am saying is at the moment Flybe have the perfect model for Sou. BOH at the moment has not found the right airline with the right model !
It is interesting that people keep mentioning and trying to guess what an airports catchment is. eg 30 or 40 % for Sou must come from the West and poeple from Portmouth/Brighton probably go to London Airports. Dont shoot me down here but I am sure I remember that Flybe did a survey of their passengers 2 or 3 years ago at Sou and actually found that some 25% of them came from within the M25 boundary. I unfortunaltely cannot find the article but if true that sort of blows some of the theories out of the water. Sous catchment is much wider than thought of.. But then if BOH had the right routes, with the right types of aicraft then I am sure their catchment would be of a similar scale. Not quite sure you would get the same portion of people trecking down from within the M25 but you might get a few from nearer Britsol way, etc.. What I am trying to say is the travelling public look around, for instance in the last couple of years I have gone to Prague twice from Stansted, well I certainly wouldnt class myself as in the Stansted catchment but the flights were the best deal. Also, I am flying to Malta in october and did check out Ryanair from BOH but it was actually cheaper to fly Air Malta from LHR!!
All I am saying is at the moment Flybe have the perfect model for Sou. BOH at the moment has not found the right airline with the right model !
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Steve I totally agree with you concerning Bournemouth's superior handeling abilities. I can't see either Ryanair or Easy Jet buying smaller planes however and as you rightly say they are too big for Bournemouth. The only way I see Bournemouth getting a substantial base is if flybe move there which is possible if they need more space than Southampton can offer.
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Can't see Flybe moving to Bournemouth anytime soon. Bournemouth does not have such good transport links and such a move would probably result in a fall in pax no's.
Also, I think that if push came to shove then Sou would "find" more space.
Also, I think that if push came to shove then Sou would "find" more space.
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Second Coming. I think one of the biggest drawbacks at BOH is the local infrastructure. I mean. From the Parley lane to Blackwater in the rush hour is just so bad. I know I work there (not on BOH). Another thing is. Although they have the new terminal all the decent facilities are airside. I went there to see it and I thought it would be nice with some shops coffee bars etc. As memory serves me there is a little coffee shop in the entrance and thats it. Some check in desks and beureu de change and hire car place. So, until you go airside there are no real facilities. but then again the quicker you get airside the better. Also, Although there is more room on the apron I can't imagine a widebody lined up with lers say Palmairs 737, A couple of Fr 737's and thomson 737 all at the same time. I know its much better and I expect the handling has got much better etc etc. As we all have seen recently the battle between SOU and BOH. At Sou the facilities do outnumber BOH and the infrastructure goes its way with the M27/M3 and train links. But to its disadvantage its a short runway not capable of handling large acft.
As for Flybe coming to BOH I agree it won't happen. Might get a few routes but not a base. I do think we could see in the future some other airlines using ATR's and Dash 8's to Eu destinations such as AMS like KLM or LH or maybe even SAS. I do hope so. But we have EXT, BRS, SOU, to contend with. Even EXT has a direct link to the new dual carriage way the A30 to the M5 and A38 and the train at Honiton and Exeter st Davids. and of course its Flybe's HQ. I do hope BOH can sort something out soon.
As for Flybe coming to BOH I agree it won't happen. Might get a few routes but not a base. I do think we could see in the future some other airlines using ATR's and Dash 8's to Eu destinations such as AMS like KLM or LH or maybe even SAS. I do hope so. But we have EXT, BRS, SOU, to contend with. Even EXT has a direct link to the new dual carriage way the A30 to the M5 and A38 and the train at Honiton and Exeter st Davids. and of course its Flybe's HQ. I do hope BOH can sort something out soon.
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Hey chaps. Does anyone know why there is a C17 doing circuits at BOH today. I can only think of crew training. Is it RAF or USAF. From where I am I can see it but not its markings ?
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Can't see Flybe moving to Bournemouth anytime soon. Bournemouth does not have such good transport links and such a move would probably result in a fall in pax no's.
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What is the REAL difference between Bournemouth and Southampton.
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One plays in red and black and the other plays in red and white.
And they have both been managed by Harry Redknapp.
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One plays in red and black and the other plays in red and white.
And they have both been managed by Harry Redknapp.