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EZY Looking at DHSS contract
I believe that easyjet are already in talks with the IOM DHSS to tender for the patient transfer contract.
This will involve a 319 being based over night at Ronaldsway. 2 Crews will night stop, one for the early rotation and one crew bringing the aircraft in to do the nightstop.
I guess they will have to consider doing 2 return trips a day.
Easyjet can see the financial benefit of night stopping an aircraft over night in the IOM as fees seem to be cheaper than LPL.
Loads are holding up well, apart from on wednesdays when they slip into the 60's, but then so do the LPL - BFS routes.
They are currently eyeing up a one return flight a day to LTN and have been in talks with the airport.
This will involve a 319 being based over night at Ronaldsway. 2 Crews will night stop, one for the early rotation and one crew bringing the aircraft in to do the nightstop.
I guess they will have to consider doing 2 return trips a day.
Easyjet can see the financial benefit of night stopping an aircraft over night in the IOM as fees seem to be cheaper than LPL.
Loads are holding up well, apart from on wednesdays when they slip into the 60's, but then so do the LPL - BFS routes.
They are currently eyeing up a one return flight a day to LTN and have been in talks with the airport.
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I have mixed views on this. On the one hand competition is healthy for consumers, and easyjet seem to have taken more pax from the Steam Packet than FlyBe on the LPL route. On the other hand Luton is not where I want to go to, and, I suspect, nor do the majority of the current crop of London bound pax. Yet if easyjet do operate a Luton service it will reduce the number of occasional pax currently using the LGW/LCY services and although that may not drop yields significantly, it will drop load factors and might threaten frequencies.
If they were to go to LGW then I have to confess that, even to me, their pricing model is more attractive to that of FlyBe. Their hand baggage allowance is far superior for business travellers, and no doubt would also be attractive to many leisure pax. But frequencies would really suffer.
In this present strained financial climate though we are unlikely to enjoy the protracted price war that EMX started. The market is finite, and neither airline would be able or willing to stand losses for long.
If they were to go to LGW then I have to confess that, even to me, their pricing model is more attractive to that of FlyBe. Their hand baggage allowance is far superior for business travellers, and no doubt would also be attractive to many leisure pax. But frequencies would really suffer.
In this present strained financial climate though we are unlikely to enjoy the protracted price war that EMX started. The market is finite, and neither airline would be able or willing to stand losses for long.
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I agree with HAC but with BE chopping their LTN frequency this winter they opened the door wide for EZY to step in. But EZY on LTN would make a big dent on LGW which would hurt
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Interesting move by EZY and would make some observations re the DHSS contract.
1. Is this a move by the IOM DHSS to reduce costs?
2. Is it a move by EZY aimed at squeezing BE on charges only for EZY to back out.
3. I would have thought that the volume of wheelchair/assisted passengers would upset EZY's normal expectations on turnaround times.
With regards to LTN perhaps EZY will result in better service from the ground handlers at LTN. From experience the handlers at LTN persistently seem to
up departures on the FlyBe services, particularly on the IOM-LTN-JER services. Examples are missing passengers and then problems unloading unaccompanied luggage. They are also prone to allocating seats that are already occupied by through passengers. Last week advised that we would be on the ground for 25 mins and we eventually left over 1 hour after arrival. I know it hacks off the FlyBe crews.
1. Is this a move by the IOM DHSS to reduce costs?
2. Is it a move by EZY aimed at squeezing BE on charges only for EZY to back out.
3. I would have thought that the volume of wheelchair/assisted passengers would upset EZY's normal expectations on turnaround times.
With regards to LTN perhaps EZY will result in better service from the ground handlers at LTN. From experience the handlers at LTN persistently seem to
up departures on the FlyBe services, particularly on the IOM-LTN-JER services. Examples are missing passengers and then problems unloading unaccompanied luggage. They are also prone to allocating seats that are already occupied by through passengers. Last week advised that we would be on the ground for 25 mins and we eventually left over 1 hour after arrival. I know it hacks off the FlyBe crews.
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Easyjet's free landing fees end in May. Do the manx public really want to subsidise more fees for next two years? I do like the cheap fares mind you.
Is it right that Manx based crew should be dispersed and UK crews night stop on IOM?
Suppose money talks.
Is it right that Manx based crew should be dispersed and UK crews night stop on IOM?
Suppose money talks.
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Nah the EZY rumours are horse$hit. No EZY LTN and no EZY overnight in IOM. Have you seen the LTN fares and loads. 
Why do you think BE are cutting it rite back. NOw an EZY from LGW that would be a different bucket of kippers
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Why do you think BE are cutting it rite back. NOw an EZY from LGW that would be a different bucket of kippers.
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Southend, I doubt any Manx people would know where it is. LTN & LGW have been established for years now. EZY would be the wrong fit for such a route.
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Easyjet can see the financial benefit of night stopping an aircraft over night in the IOM as fees seem to be cheaper than LPL.
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Exactly rite. Its not the EZY plan. EZY engineering support is in LPL and have you seen what winter deice costs at Reynoldsway You wouldnt want to be spraying a nice big 319 very often.
You wouldnt want to be spraying a nice big 319 very often.
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have you seen what winter deice costs at Reynoldsway
On another tack I see the BA codeshare flight numbers on BE's LGW flights have today appeared on the IoM flight board for the first time. They've been on the LGW board for some time. Can anyone tell me how these and onward connections might be booked? BA.com tells me that BA don't operate to the IOM, and FlyBe.com doesn't offer destinations like JFK. HKG or even any European destinations served by BA from LGW. Perhaps they are only available to travel agents?
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I see the BA codeshare flight numbers on BE's LGW flights have today appeared on the IoM flight board for the first time
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I think there's the occasional "Etihad" in there as well.
But what routes using these code shares can be booked, and how? For example I fly to HKG several times each year on BA. Every time I have two tickets, one BE, and one BA, and have no protection should BE fail to get me off the rock, and I miss my onward flight. I'd happily pay a few dollars more if I could book IOM-HKG on one ticket, with the comfort that if something goes wrong then the airlines will look after me. As they used to in the past.
It's one aspect of modern day travel that could affect us all. Maybe there's a market for missed connection insurance?
But what routes using these code shares can be booked, and how? For example I fly to HKG several times each year on BA. Every time I have two tickets, one BE, and one BA, and have no protection should BE fail to get me off the rock, and I miss my onward flight. I'd happily pay a few dollars more if I could book IOM-HKG on one ticket, with the comfort that if something goes wrong then the airlines will look after me. As they used to in the past.
It's one aspect of modern day travel that could affect us all. Maybe there's a market for missed connection insurance?
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Agree RE flights are "Etihad" codeshares. However this morning's 0910 MAN arrival carries EY7029, 1225 to MAN carries EY7023, so I wasn't imagining it. Curiously there don't seem to be any departing flights codeshared. So "Etihad" are taking to the rock, who don't want to leave. Is that a growth market?
Thanks lfc84 - I can see the flights are now available on BA.com. Oh goodie!
Thanks lfc84 - I can see the flights are now available on BA.com. Oh goodie!