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ure right pabely. They must be getting pax off the Steam packet and with their fares at £15 for a lot of the time when the Bucket was £18 for walk ons with free 
gale crossings thrown in - its no suprise
gale crossings thrown in - its no suprise
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Flights cancelled all over the place tonite. First Manxy2, then BE. Arann still looking to launch there DUB but with winds of 50kts not sure how they can taxy an ATR 42 when Q400's are grounded.
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Flybe are chopping there winter capacity some more . LPL loses 2-3 rotations, MAN 2 -3, 1 BHX gone and 2 LTN gone. LGW looks OK for now. Gonna be a lot of parked up aircraft at Reynoldsway this winter
EZY must be hurting them
EZY must be hurting them
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Your post is rather misleading. The number of rotations removed is per week, not per day, so a reduction of only around 8%, for just a few weeks in the winter, against what was offered on these routes during the summer period.
Also most of these seats were stripped out of the schedule a few weeks ago, so hardly hot news.
It's just the slack season rebalancing of capacity and demand which has been an annual feature since BE became the dominant operator here.
Also most of these seats were stripped out of the schedule a few weeks ago, so hardly hot news.
It's just the slack season rebalancing of capacity and demand which has been an annual feature since BE became the dominant operator here.
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I see Ronaldsway is closed until 1200 today "when a further update will be made".
Does that mean they have no snow clearing capability whatsoever and are just hoping that Mr Sun will appear and make the nasty white stuff go away?
Does that mean they have no snow clearing capability whatsoever and are just hoping that Mr Sun will appear and make the nasty white stuff go away?
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Tony q I don't agree. These cuts are a second round not the usual jan and feb trimming. The cuts apply to the whole winter schedule now. With all the extra EZY capacity they Make sense but cuts they are matey.
IoM airport closed for 24 hours by 2inches of snow. Joke. No attempt to clear the snow just masses of fluid poured on the runway and snow settled ontop. Main roads are all ok but airport can't be opened. We all got to work ok to find airport closed for second day.
IoM airport closed for 24 hours by 2inches of snow. Joke. No attempt to clear the snow just masses of fluid poured on the runway and snow settled ontop. Main roads are all ok but airport can't be opened. We all got to work ok to find airport closed for second day.
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EZY site currently has this on it:
* Edinburgh - snow closed until 14:00 GMT
* Isle of Man - snow closed until 12:30 GMT
* Inverness - delays and cancellations are expected
* Aberdeen - currently snow closed till 12:45 GMT.
* Newcastle - reopened, but delays are possible
* Isle of Man - snow closed until 12:30 GMT
* Inverness - delays and cancellations are expected
* Aberdeen - currently snow closed till 12:45 GMT.
* Newcastle - reopened, but delays are possible
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And here's the spin:
So there's no snow blower available. And because yesterday was a Sunday there was no one available to write the back patting press release. But there were Airport staff battling against the elements with what appears to be woefully inadequate resources.
Whilst no one would expect the magnificent line up of snow clearing equipment that greets arrivals at Gatwick, just one piece of suitable equipment would be nice.
A heavy snowfall early in the south of the Island on Sunday afternoon led to the closure of the runway at Ronaldsway. At least 3 inches of snow fell over a 2 hour period, something not seen at the Airport in well over 10 years. Initially the Airport was closed from around two thirty but a further decision at 5 o’clock was made to remain closed for the remainder of the day.
Airport staff worked late into the evening and were back at three o’clock this morning treating the runway and taxiway surfaces, however a decision was taken at 0530 this morning to keep the Airport closed until midday.
Airport Director Ann Reynolds explained, “The runway and taxiway surfaces were inspected at daylight this morning and the treated areas have far less snow contamination than the surrounding areas. Some areas are already becoming slush and a further inspection will be made at 11 o’clock. We are hopeful, provided there are no further snowfalls that we should be able to open at midday.” She went on to explain “whilst we have snow ploughs and will use them on some of the taxiway surfaces, we do not generally use them on the runway. Ploughing will cause compaction of the snow, forming ice, which makes the runway surface unlevel. Equally, we cannot push the snow to just off the sides of the runway, as this will form banks of ice – and that’s not acceptable for aircraft operations. We have to keep the runway edges level and clear with no obstacles”.
Around 80 passengers actually spent the night at in the Ronaldsway Terminal Building, including a wedding party and the bride and groom shared their honeymoon night sleeping not only with family and friends but strangers too. Airport staff remained at work to look after the passengers.
Ann went on to say “I’d like to thank the Airport staff who have worked hard throughout this challenging time. I’d also like to thank the passengers for their patience and understanding at this time, and must apologise that whilst the flights show delayed or cancelled on the website this morning, we omitted to put an airport statement onto the website. I understand that whilst messages on the radio regarding the closure were put out from six o’clock this morning, some passengers travelled to the Airport to find the Airport closed”.
Airport staff worked late into the evening and were back at three o’clock this morning treating the runway and taxiway surfaces, however a decision was taken at 0530 this morning to keep the Airport closed until midday.
Airport Director Ann Reynolds explained, “The runway and taxiway surfaces were inspected at daylight this morning and the treated areas have far less snow contamination than the surrounding areas. Some areas are already becoming slush and a further inspection will be made at 11 o’clock. We are hopeful, provided there are no further snowfalls that we should be able to open at midday.” She went on to explain “whilst we have snow ploughs and will use them on some of the taxiway surfaces, we do not generally use them on the runway. Ploughing will cause compaction of the snow, forming ice, which makes the runway surface unlevel. Equally, we cannot push the snow to just off the sides of the runway, as this will form banks of ice – and that’s not acceptable for aircraft operations. We have to keep the runway edges level and clear with no obstacles”.
Around 80 passengers actually spent the night at in the Ronaldsway Terminal Building, including a wedding party and the bride and groom shared their honeymoon night sleeping not only with family and friends but strangers too. Airport staff remained at work to look after the passengers.
Ann went on to say “I’d like to thank the Airport staff who have worked hard throughout this challenging time. I’d also like to thank the passengers for their patience and understanding at this time, and must apologise that whilst the flights show delayed or cancelled on the website this morning, we omitted to put an airport statement onto the website. I understand that whilst messages on the radio regarding the closure were put out from six o’clock this morning, some passengers travelled to the Airport to find the Airport closed”.
Whilst no one would expect the magnificent line up of snow clearing equipment that greets arrivals at Gatwick, just one piece of suitable equipment would be nice.
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IOM Spotter - I think we'll just have to agree to differ on this one. Whatever the precise timing, the reduction in capacity is only around 8% against what was offered in the summer months. I’d suggest this is not a big deal at an airport which still has a highly seasonal trade.
There are not "Gonna be a lot of parked up aircraft" (except perhaps when we have a dusting of snow).There maybe one for a few hours on some quieter days of the week. Your initial post seemed to be written in a sensationalist style to convey, deliberately or otherwise, the impression that IOM is going to turn into some sort of aviation graveyard, which is simply not the case.
Of course all those cheap Easyjet seats are going to cause BE and others to take stock of overall capacity over the whole winter – that just looks like prudent business to me.
There are not "Gonna be a lot of parked up aircraft" (except perhaps when we have a dusting of snow).There maybe one for a few hours on some quieter days of the week. Your initial post seemed to be written in a sensationalist style to convey, deliberately or otherwise, the impression that IOM is going to turn into some sort of aviation graveyard, which is simply not the case.
Of course all those cheap Easyjet seats are going to cause BE and others to take stock of overall capacity over the whole winter – that just looks like prudent business to me.
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Tony Q we are agreed it is prudent business and that wasnt my point. It was made to let people know that all the great fanfare over new EZY flights had just resulted in a second round of cutbacks by BE so overall no one has gained anything, no new pax - just lots of disruption.
Even worse we saw EZYs lack of island service today when they just cancelled and offered rebooking on Wednesday - so 48 hours in the sefton Express to look forward to At least BE and Manxy2 always try to get everyone home.
Arann got it even worse tonite. There DUB IOM took a look at Reynoldsway and diverted back to DUB but on returning home was told DUB was then closed so had to head off to ORK
Even worse we saw EZYs lack of island service today when they just cancelled and offered rebooking on Wednesday - so 48 hours in the sefton Express to look forward to
At least BE and Manxy2 always try to get everyone home.Arann got it even worse tonite. There DUB IOM took a look at Reynoldsway and diverted back to DUB but on returning home was told DUB was then closed so had to head off to ORK
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Obviously a very difficult day for everyone and one when we saw the true extent of EZY's interest in, and commitment to, the IOM. Even Ms Reynolds sounded extremely p
ssed off with them, when interviewed on the radio this evening.
ssed off with them, when interviewed on the radio this evening.
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I know little of A320 performance, but is it not possible that the runway contamination was outside limits?
But not, I would have thought, for an ATR, so why did the RE DUB turn back?
But not, I would have thought, for an ATR, so why did the RE DUB turn back?