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Exactly Pizzaro, I've used that same expression on here myself............an EZY dominated IOM would be a disaster for the local market and businesses from a variety of perspectives.
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Hear hear Pizarro and Tonyq
But this capacity issue needs addressing. Mrs HAC reported only 5 spare seats on her 1355 flight yesterday to LGW.
So on the back of the proverbial fag packet I reckon there's around 17500 seats to LGW each month (26 rotations of 78 seats per week times 4.3 weeks per month). The combined LGW and LCY reported pax numbers for 2011 (2010 in brackets) were:
June 16,400 (17,470)
July 15,612 (16,848)
Aug 15,129 (15,656)
If the Airport Director is right about her anticipated 5% improvement this year that would give 100% loads for June and 94% for July assuming demand for all flights is even, which of course it isn't. There will no doubt be some leakage to LTN, and to "London" Oxford, but getting a seat on the busy flights at the last minute will be nigh on impossible.
Of course my math may be wrong......
But this capacity issue needs addressing. Mrs HAC reported only 5 spare seats on her 1355 flight yesterday to LGW.
So on the back of the proverbial fag packet I reckon there's around 17500 seats to LGW each month (26 rotations of 78 seats per week times 4.3 weeks per month). The combined LGW and LCY reported pax numbers for 2011 (2010 in brackets) were:
June 16,400 (17,470)
July 15,612 (16,848)
Aug 15,129 (15,656)
If the Airport Director is right about her anticipated 5% improvement this year that would give 100% loads for June and 94% for July assuming demand for all flights is even, which of course it isn't. There will no doubt be some leakage to LTN, and to "London" Oxford, but getting a seat on the busy flights at the last minute will be nigh on impossible.
Of course my math may be wrong......
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HAC - your sums seem fine to me and it looks like BE will have a very busy, and presumably profitable, few months on LGW. Even after October, when EZY seats are on sale, BE's entry level fares have moved up significantly from last winter and the very cheapest fares are no longer available on some flights, on some days.
What to do about overall capacity in the summer months is tricky though.
There are a handful of extra flights in the system for TT period. As IOMspotter has said Luton has been reduced from 2011, so if they squeeze the same number of PAX into fewer flights, that route should do well too, with few empty seats to play with.
They could put a 175 or 195 into IOM, but that would presumably come with some start up and training costs, plus a loss of operational flexibility, with a mixed fleet, and a different ball game next winter anyway, once EZY start flying.
My guess is that BE will just fill their boots with increased loads, and significantly enhanced yield, from all those ex-LCY pax, shed price sensitive leisure pax, who will go to EZY eventually. They'll then see how things play out over the next 12 months or so, before making any material changes to the way they run the route.
What to do about overall capacity in the summer months is tricky though.
There are a handful of extra flights in the system for TT period. As IOMspotter has said Luton has been reduced from 2011, so if they squeeze the same number of PAX into fewer flights, that route should do well too, with few empty seats to play with.
They could put a 175 or 195 into IOM, but that would presumably come with some start up and training costs, plus a loss of operational flexibility, with a mixed fleet, and a different ball game next winter anyway, once EZY start flying.
My guess is that BE will just fill their boots with increased loads, and significantly enhanced yield, from all those ex-LCY pax, shed price sensitive leisure pax, who will go to EZY eventually. They'll then see how things play out over the next 12 months or so, before making any material changes to the way they run the route.
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dont forget that with BE planes heading off to Brussels, East midlands and Scandinavia (Cimber) not to mention the scrap for the bones of BMI baby/regional any aircraft not doing the biz will likely be redeployed onto better alternatives.
BHD is likely to need another airframe too if Ambrose cant pull a rabit out of his hat by Friday.
BHD is likely to need another airframe too if Ambrose cant pull a rabit out of his hat by Friday.
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During the first month of ops BACF will only operate one round trip each weekday.
28MAY12 – 24JUN12
BA3282 LCY1200 – 1310IOM E70 x567
BA3282 LCY1315 – 1425IOM E70 5
BA3285 IOM1350 – 1500LCY E70 X567
BA3285 IOM1500 – 1610LCY E70 5
From the 25th June will increase up to 3 x daily during the week. BACF will also offer a single roundtrip to LCY on a Saturday and two round trips on a Sunday
eff 25JUN12
BA3282 LCY0915 – 1035IOM S20 x7
BA3286 LCY1450 – 1605IOM S20 x6
BA3288 LCY1930 – 2050IOM S20 x6
BA3281 IOM0725 – 0845LCY S20 x7
BA3285 IOM1300 – 1415LCY S20 x6
BA3287 IOM1740 – 1900LCY S20 x6
28MAY12 – 24JUN12
BA3282 LCY1200 – 1310IOM E70 x567
BA3282 LCY1315 – 1425IOM E70 5
BA3285 IOM1350 – 1500LCY E70 X567
BA3285 IOM1500 – 1610LCY E70 5
From the 25th June will increase up to 3 x daily during the week. BACF will also offer a single roundtrip to LCY on a Saturday and two round trips on a Sunday
eff 25JUN12
BA3282 LCY0915 – 1035IOM S20 x7
BA3286 LCY1450 – 1605IOM S20 x6
BA3288 LCY1930 – 2050IOM S20 x6
BA3281 IOM0725 – 0845LCY S20 x7
BA3285 IOM1300 – 1415LCY S20 x6
BA3287 IOM1740 – 1900LCY S20 x6
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Really delighted to see BA back on the rock.
Be interesting to see what connections are offered, particularly to BA mainline flights. DLR/Tube/HEX, despite the number of changes, can be as quick as LGW>LHR. Will that affect BE's codeshares?
Be interesting to see what connections are offered, particularly to BA mainline flights. DLR/Tube/HEX, despite the number of changes, can be as quick as LGW>LHR. Will that affect BE's codeshares?
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Manx2 flights started to London Oxford Airport
Those new daily, year round flights to Oxford (or 'London' Oxford, sorry) kicked off yesterday -
London Oxford Airport welcomes Manx2.com’s first scheduled flightsto Jersey and the Isle of Man
Daily flights from London Oxford Airport toJersey and the Isle of Man got off to an excellent start yesterday (08 May) asthe airport welcomed the first scheduled services to the island destinations. Manx2.com reports that its Oxford route isoutselling its Leeds route by four seats to one with some 2,000 seats booked todate. Forward bookings to both destinations are very strong with the Isleof Man seeing a peak in bookings coinciding with the world-renowned motorcycleTT races, which start later this month.
Manx2.com has pledged year-round services onthe routes with lead in fares starting at just £49.95 to the Isle of Man and £54.95to Jersey (one-way including taxes) with no credit card charges or booking feesto pay and an allowance of up to 10kg for hand luggage. Together with airport parking at £7.50 perday (£35.00 per week) the offerings represent extremely good value short breaks.
Mon-Sat Schedule:
Isle of Man-Oxford dep IoM 10:55 arr Oxf 12:05
Oxford-Jersey dep Oxf 12:25 arr Jer 13:30
Jersey-Oxford dep Jer 13:50 arr Oxf 14:55
Oxford-Isle of Man dep Oxf 15:15 arr IoM 16:25
(Sunday flights depart Oxford at15:30 for Jersey, 18:20 for IoM)
Chris Orphanou, Managing Director of LondonOxford Airport, said: “The launch ofthese two new daily scheduled services from Oxford gives us the opportunity toshowcase the world-class facilities we have here. The combination of London Oxford’s strategiclocation, together with its great road, rail and bus links, makes it the idealgateway for both business and leisure travel. We are delighted that Manx2.com has recognised the benefits of LondonOxford Airport and we’ve recently recruited five new terminal staff as aconsequence of the new flights being established.”
David Buck, Manx2.com’s Managing Director,said: “Our new routes to the Isle of Manand Jersey, via London Oxford Airport, demonstrate our commitment to keepingthe UK’s island communities connected and provide our passengers with theperfect opportunity to travel through a first-class, uncongested airport.”
London Oxford Airport welcomes Manx2.com’s first scheduled flightsto Jersey and the Isle of Man
Daily flights from London Oxford Airport toJersey and the Isle of Man got off to an excellent start yesterday (08 May) asthe airport welcomed the first scheduled services to the island destinations. Manx2.com reports that its Oxford route isoutselling its Leeds route by four seats to one with some 2,000 seats booked todate. Forward bookings to both destinations are very strong with the Isleof Man seeing a peak in bookings coinciding with the world-renowned motorcycleTT races, which start later this month.
Manx2.com has pledged year-round services onthe routes with lead in fares starting at just £49.95 to the Isle of Man and £54.95to Jersey (one-way including taxes) with no credit card charges or booking feesto pay and an allowance of up to 10kg for hand luggage. Together with airport parking at £7.50 perday (£35.00 per week) the offerings represent extremely good value short breaks.
Mon-Sat Schedule:
Isle of Man-Oxford dep IoM 10:55 arr Oxf 12:05
Oxford-Jersey dep Oxf 12:25 arr Jer 13:30
Jersey-Oxford dep Jer 13:50 arr Oxf 14:55
Oxford-Isle of Man dep Oxf 15:15 arr IoM 16:25
(Sunday flights depart Oxford at15:30 for Jersey, 18:20 for IoM)
Chris Orphanou, Managing Director of LondonOxford Airport, said: “The launch ofthese two new daily scheduled services from Oxford gives us the opportunity toshowcase the world-class facilities we have here. The combination of London Oxford’s strategiclocation, together with its great road, rail and bus links, makes it the idealgateway for both business and leisure travel. We are delighted that Manx2.com has recognised the benefits of LondonOxford Airport and we’ve recently recruited five new terminal staff as aconsequence of the new flights being established.”
David Buck, Manx2.com’s Managing Director,said: “Our new routes to the Isle of Manand Jersey, via London Oxford Airport, demonstrate our commitment to keepingthe UK’s island communities connected and provide our passengers with theperfect opportunity to travel through a first-class, uncongested airport.”
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What have the Olympics got to do with it?
If you are thinking there might be some increased demand to/from IOM, a check on FlyBe availability IOM-LGW in July and August will illustrate that is not so.
If you are thinking there might be some increased demand to/from IOM, a check on FlyBe availability IOM-LGW in July and August will illustrate that is not so.
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Be interesting to see what connections are offered, particularly to BA mainline flights. DLR/Tube/HEX, despite the number of changes, can be as quick as LGW>LHR. Will that affect BE's codeshares?
The BA flights to LCY are quite well timed to offer connections on to BACF's other LCY services. This summer BA customers from IOM will be able to connect through LCY to BA's flights to:
Aberdeen, Amsterdam, Angers, Barcelona, Billund, Faro, Frankfurt, Ibiza, Madrid, Malaga, Minorca, New York, Nice, Palma, Quimper, Stockholm, Zurich and from late September Venice.
They will also be able to connect
