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Old 4th Mar 2012, 13:26
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The credibility of TravelNews.im is doubtful. They seem to think that Manx2 operates under the same type of franchise arrangement as Aer Arann/Aer Lingus and Loganair/Flybe.
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Old 4th Mar 2012, 13:47
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When this route began it was flown on a brand new ATR72-500, the fact that it remains on the elderly ATR42 with very poor punctuality shows how much of a priority this route became recently alas.
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Old 4th Mar 2012, 15:34
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And hence the ever reducing loads. I like LCY but not RE's price or punctuality (foggy days excluded, of course).
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Old 14th Mar 2012, 13:41
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After todays news it looks like the LCY finishes end of april now rather than 25th march so we have that to be greateful for. Aircraft and crew off to SEN to operate the SEN-DUB seems to be the story


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Old 15th Mar 2012, 12:46
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It would appear they are keen to get rid of the DUB route asap as well if their new pricing is anything to go by.

Just went to book a flight outbound on 22/3, return 25/3. Outbound price on Aer Arann's website is £34.99. Inbound on Aer Lingus (you are redirected to their site for the return) is £237.99 - for a 20 minute flight! The cheapest flight the next day was £111.99!
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Old 17th Mar 2012, 08:57
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Spotter fella - you know me, bit slow on the uptake as usual. where does it say the LCY finishes at the end of April.
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Old 17th Mar 2012, 13:33
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Aer Arann are not dropping LCY. Bookable all summer.
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Old 17th Mar 2012, 16:11
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Originally Posted by EI-EIDW
Aer Arann are not dropping LCY. Bookable all summer.
Are they really going to maintain a website, booking engine, customer service function, cabin crew uniform, and possibly single non-EI-liveried aircraft, just to fly one non-strategic route?
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Old 17th Mar 2012, 16:23
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is it REALLY so hard for people to go on their website and find out details for themselves?

as already posted you can see whats bookable on the aer arann website throughout the summer.

you can also see the route map which distuinghes between aer lingus regional and aer arann

http://www.aerarann.com/images/routemap_all.jpg
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Old 17th Mar 2012, 16:52
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What's the story with the BRS service? Is there still an IOM based Dash?
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Old 17th Mar 2012, 17:05
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Dn't think the route map is particularly helpful as it simply shows today's network.

As for LCY, common sense dictates that it is not very likely that it will remain as an Aer Arann route. I guess Aer Arann is trying to squeeze out some sort of subsidies / fee reductions from IOM/LCY to keep the route and transfer it to the EI franchise as well. If this does not work, I guess it will be axed. As for the route being bookable - I have booked quite a few flights on various airlines only to be informed later that, sorry for the inconvenience this may cause, but the route has to be axed.

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Old 17th Mar 2012, 17:28
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EASYJET Close to announcing new route

Easyjet will shortly announce a new route from the isle of man.

LPL IOM SEN IOM LPL twice a day! Not sure if it will be operated by SEN or LPL based aircraft etc

Apparently Flybe mike rutter has been over to the IOM to threaten the IOM government over frequencies on the routes they operate on, should this go ahead!

Easy already announced SEN JER

Fingers crossed announcement to follow.
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Old 17th Mar 2012, 18:53
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Thought Mike Rutter was now with the Finnish operation?
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Old 17th Mar 2012, 19:03
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Mike rutter is managing director of Europe, I don't know if Flybe treat the IOM as part of Europe or not? I guess if he was over here, then maybe so. However, Niall Duffy was also on the island recently.
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Old 17th Mar 2012, 23:07
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600 seats a day IOM-SEN-IOM!!! Yeah, that really makes sense!

It's probably about the last thing that IOM needs right now. De-stabilise the BE routes to LGW and LTN in exchange for a route to a distant backwater with slow and expensive rail links to London.........and finally drive RE away from LCY too.

Be careful what you wish for.

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Old 17th Mar 2012, 23:41
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Er..... where does the idea of a slow and expensive rail link to London come from? SEN's new terminal and rail station provides a rapid transit through to London, at a reasonable price. Passengers will get through SEN's arrival procedures in a fraction of the time taken at either Luton or LGW.

FlyBE had a chance to be the leading airline from the new SEN, but they blew it and now EZY have stepped in. Interesting.......
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Old 18th Mar 2012, 00:16
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The distance and multiple stops mean it's an hour each way to Liverpool Street, compared to 30 mins. LGW to Victoria or London Bridge. That makes the journey comparatively long and slow in my book.

Any time saved clearing the airport is likely to be lost waiting for the next train as they materially less frequent than at LGW. I fly IOM - LGW 30+ times a year and, without bags, it takes 7 minutes from gate to station platform.

Open up IOM-SEN 3 or 4 times a weeks as another London option by all means, but that number of seats is greater than the entire IOM - London market and could f*ck everything up.

If this is for real, it will only end in tears at Reynoldsway........
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Old 18th Mar 2012, 00:43
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I can't believe such protectionism still exists. What exactly will easyjet **** up as you put it? The status quo? The monopoly that current airlines have and take advantage of? And since when was the SEN-LON rail link expensive? Have you paid for a ticket on the gatwick express recently?? Ultimatley if people want to use such a service they will and if they don't they won't but they should be free to choose - competition is the life of trade.
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Old 18th Mar 2012, 05:50
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Er..... where does the idea of a slow and expensive rail link to London come from? SEN's new terminal and rail station provides a rapid transit through to London
You’re having a laugh. The train stops at every station all the way to London and takes all but an hour and even more than an hour on the odd train. The Southend service makes the slow crawl Stansted Express look quick by comparison but passengers do have a choice so let them make it.

From a Flybe viewpoint at least Easyjet are operating the flights into London's least popular airport where 60% of the airports catchment area is the North Sea and the facilities for passengers are almost non- existent rather than Gatwick but as Flybe know easyjet might start the service from Southend and then move it after a season to Gatwick. Now that would upset Flybe and the IOM could be left with just one airline serving just one London airport if and when Aer Arann go bust.

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Old 18th Mar 2012, 09:34
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Had a quick look on the Trainline website. There are some journeys just over an hour but generally, it's an average of 58 or 53 minutes to Liverpool St, every 20 minutes from Southend Airport and 44 to 48 minutes to Stratford, which is probably the easiest place to to pick up the tube. Peak open return is £26.
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