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Skip click on the Free Travel around airport map link !
That map shows the services and boundary for Buses Train and Tube !
The Tube is free for use between T5/Central zone out to Hatton Cross (but not to alight) change at Hatton back to T4 and central zone then T5 again.
After research it is correct an Oyster card is necessary to get through the barriers.
Also Heathrow Express CentralZone/T5 and Central Zone/T4.Change Central Zone going T4/T5 or reverse.
The buses are free right round perimeter and into Central Zone, however there are few Surrey supported local buses that do not accept the free zone areas.
That map shows the services and boundary for Buses Train and Tube !
The Tube is free for use between T5/Central zone out to Hatton Cross (but not to alight) change at Hatton back to T4 and central zone then T5 again.
After research it is correct an Oyster card is necessary to get through the barriers.
Also Heathrow Express CentralZone/T5 and Central Zone/T4.Change Central Zone going T4/T5 or reverse.
The buses are free right round perimeter and into Central Zone, however there are few Surrey supported local buses that do not accept the free zone areas.
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Quote: "The Lib Dems have been in the coalition for three years now but don’t appear to have matured into a party of government. They’re still as mad as march hares!"
Quote: "As for the LD comment; well if they are immature, I hate to think what the Tory backbenchers pass for. In the current coalition, all the frothing has come from one side, the whispers of leadership challenges, the mutinous backbenchers who appear on tv chuntering, the unattributed briefings...and it hasn't been from the yellow peril."
Have you been following the Libdem conference?
Sadly for you FDF your incessant dreaming about another bit of tarmac being given the go-ahead in this parliament have been quashed as both new junior ministers at the DoT are not known for thier love of the idea. As for the next election who knows; at the minute it is looking like a another hung one. So start buying those shares in KLM as UKPLC goes bankrupt due to not having those 10% of passengers spending money in duty free....
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The Davies Commision has said today they are leaning towards more runway capacity needed in the South East. If they conclude that, rightly of course, then commercial reality kicks in. There is no question of starting this parliament as the commsion reports after the next election allowing the incoming government to take an unpallatable political decision an blame an "independent" report.
T'was ever thus.
T'was ever thus.
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Sadly for you FDF your incessant dreaming about another bit of tarmac being given the go-ahead in this parliament have been quashed as both new junior ministers at the DoT are not known for thier love of the idea. As for the next election who knows; at the minute it is looking like a another hung one. So start buying those shares in KLM as UKPLC goes bankrupt due to not having those 10% of passengers spending money in duty free
BTW, it's not "incessant dreaming about another bit of tarmac being given the go-ahead". It is about common sense and commercial reality of staying in the premier league or relegation to the west Middlesex sunday league. It's as simple as that.
The Davies Commision has said today they are leaning towards more runway capacity needed in the South East. If they conclude that, rightly of course, then commercial reality kicks in. There is no question of starting this parliament as the commsion reports after the next election allowing the incoming government to take an unpallatable political decision an blame an "independent" report.
T'was ever thus.
T'was ever thus.
1. common sense and reality (LHR expansion);
2. a fudge (LGW/STN expansion instead of LHR expansion);
3. a vanity project (a completely new airport e.g. Thames estuary);
4. the status quo (continue to do nothing).
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LHR-1 to LHR-5 and vice versa
Not having travelled through Heathrow for a long time, Am I right in thinking that the easiest and most convienent way to get from Terminal 5 to Terminal 1 is still on the Heathrow Express?
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The bus is also free but not so easy with luggage, plus you're exposed to the weather and the traffic.
Didn't know that the tube was also free on the airport, is that quite a recent development?
Tube is NOT free. If you have a travelcard season (as opposed to pay as you go) that includes zone 6 then it covers journeys between the three airport stations so it won't cost you anything. It will if you don't have a travelcard. You will however need to change trains at Hatton Cross if travelling TO terminal 4 as the Piccadilly line does a loop.
Heathrow Express is probably best between T1/2 & T4 or T5 where it is free although there is a bit of a trek to T3. Annoyingly there isn't a direct link between the Central Bus Stn & HEx - the entrance is on the pedestrian tunnel route to T3 Arrivals, about a five minute walk.
Buses are probably best between T4 & T5 landside (also free) as you have to change HEx trains.
There are buses between all terminals airside so its not an issue if you are changing planes.
Heathrow Express is probably best between T1/2 & T4 or T5 where it is free although there is a bit of a trek to T3. Annoyingly there isn't a direct link between the Central Bus Stn & HEx - the entrance is on the pedestrian tunnel route to T3 Arrivals, about a five minute walk.
Buses are probably best between T4 & T5 landside (also free) as you have to change HEx trains.
There are buses between all terminals airside so its not an issue if you are changing planes.
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Seems the inter terminal tube is free, they just don't broadcast it. Read up. However, in practice you'll need a valid OYSTER to get through the barriers. They're not goin to let you in on trust.
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The page on the Heathrow website linked in post #2847 specifically states that travel between T5 and T1/T3 (in either direction) is free if you use an Oyster card, with no distinction made between Oyster travelcards and PAYG ones.
Here's the link again:
Heathrow: Travel between terminals
Here's the link again:
Heathrow: Travel between terminals
UK appoints Aviation Minister who is anti-Heathrow expansion
Interesting article in the Independent about the newly-appointed Aviation Minister, Robert Goodwill, who has just replaced Simon Burns and who is on record as being hostile to the idea of expanding Heathrow.
'Three years ago Mr Goodwill, the Tory MP for Scarborough and Whitby, invited six Greenpeace activists to watch as he "twinned" his farm with the village of Sipson, which was threatened with destruction at the time.
He marked the occasion by planting an apple tree and said: "I am delighted the Conservative party and Greenpeace are working together in opposing the third runway at Heathrow."'
New aviation minister Robert Goodwill opposed third runway at Heathrow - News - The Independent
'Three years ago Mr Goodwill, the Tory MP for Scarborough and Whitby, invited six Greenpeace activists to watch as he "twinned" his farm with the village of Sipson, which was threatened with destruction at the time.
He marked the occasion by planting an apple tree and said: "I am delighted the Conservative party and Greenpeace are working together in opposing the third runway at Heathrow."'
New aviation minister Robert Goodwill opposed third runway at Heathrow - News - The Independent
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Almost everyone was planting apple trees in solidarity with Sipson at that time :
AIRPLOT! presented by Greenpeace UK
I wonder if David Cameron's Cox has borne fruit yet ?
AIRPLOT! presented by Greenpeace UK
I wonder if David Cameron's Cox has borne fruit yet ?
How can someone so vehement to the industry, be promoted to Aviation Minister!
That's not the same thing at all as being anti-aviation - where is the evidence for that ?
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All we know is that he wanted to publicly declare that he was against LHR R3 three years ago.
That's the only fact here.
Was he really against it? Unknown.
If so, is he still against it? Unknown.
That's the only fact here.
Was he really against it? Unknown.
If so, is he still against it? Unknown.
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Happy to stand corrected about PAYG travelcards - I wasn't aware of this. Presumably the system is programmed not to charge anything for travel between stations in the Heathrow area. You need an Oyster card to travel by tube by not to travel by bus or HEx.
Happy to stand corrected about PAYG travelcards - I wasn't aware of this. Presumably the system is programmed not to charge anything for travel between stations in the Heathrow area. You need an Oyster card to travel by tube by not to travel by bus or HEx.
Have you considered the possibility that until 2015 and certainly not before the next election, Govt is not going to do anything substantial on airport expansion. For the time being, the job of the aviation minister is really to keep things carrying on as usual and avoid major disasters. In such an environment, it makes sense to give the role to someone who is seen as being pro green - allows Cameron to claim eco credentials while the aviation minister's job has been somewhat neutralised by earlier decisions.
Separately - I went recently to Lowfield Heath next to Gatwick yeseterday and visited the church there as well as the former village crossroads. Rather depressing to see the last vestigial remains of a village that was wiped off the map under the juggernaut that was expansion of Gatwick. Anyone else been to Lowfield Heath before it's potentially repeated at Sipson ?
Separately - I went recently to Lowfield Heath next to Gatwick yeseterday and visited the church there as well as the former village crossroads. Rather depressing to see the last vestigial remains of a village that was wiped off the map under the juggernaut that was expansion of Gatwick. Anyone else been to Lowfield Heath before it's potentially repeated at Sipson ?
Have you considered the possibility that until 2015 and certainly not before the next election, Govt is not going to do anything substantial on airport expansion.
Free travel at Heathrow :
Heathrow Express/Connect. No ticket barriers to the platforms, and tickets are not checked on the sections inside Heathrow. They are checked when the train moves on beyond.
Underground. Only free if you have an Oyster card (any sort), with some money on it, to get in and out of the ticket barriers. System is programmed so if you go in one Heathrow station and out another, a fare of 0.00 is charged.
Bus. Inbound to Heathrow, driver just stops taking fares/Oysters at the boundary. Outbound you need to tell the driver if you are only going within the free zone.
Heathrow Express/Connect. No ticket barriers to the platforms, and tickets are not checked on the sections inside Heathrow. They are checked when the train moves on beyond.
Underground. Only free if you have an Oyster card (any sort), with some money on it, to get in and out of the ticket barriers. System is programmed so if you go in one Heathrow station and out another, a fare of 0.00 is charged.
Bus. Inbound to Heathrow, driver just stops taking fares/Oysters at the boundary. Outbound you need to tell the driver if you are only going within the free zone.
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UK appoints Aviation Minister who is anti-Heathrow expansion
Interesting article in the Independent about the newly-appointed Aviation Minister, Robert Goodwill, who has just replaced Simon Burns and who is on record as being hostile to the idea of expanding Heathrow.
'Three years ago Mr Goodwill, the Tory MP for Scarborough and Whitby, invited six Greenpeace activists to watch as he "twinned" his farm with the village of Sipson, which was threatened with destruction at the time.
He marked the occasion by planting an apple tree and said: "I am delighted the Conservative party and Greenpeace are working together in opposing the third runway at Heathrow."'
'Three years ago Mr Goodwill, the Tory MP for Scarborough and Whitby, invited six Greenpeace activists to watch as he "twinned" his farm with the village of Sipson, which was threatened with destruction at the time.
He marked the occasion by planting an apple tree and said: "I am delighted the Conservative party and Greenpeace are working together in opposing the third runway at Heathrow."'
This is classic gesture politics of the most puerile kind, the sort formerly associated with the 1980s "loony left" [sic]. "Nuclear-free zones" anyone?
That is an astonishing decision to appoint Goodwill to that role.
How can someone so vehement to the industry, be promoted to Aviation Minister!
How can someone so vehement to the industry, be promoted to Aviation Minister!
Underground. Only free if you have an Oyster card (any sort), with some money on it, to get in and out of the ticket barriers. System is programmed so if you go in one Heathrow station and out another, a fare of 0.00 is charged
wasn't Justine Greening (Con. Putney) a transport minister at one time?
Robert Goodwill is the Minister of State for Transport, reporting to the Secretary of State, the post previously held by Simon Burns and, before that, by Theresa Villiers. The post, often wrongly described as "Aviation Minister", also includes responsibility for rail (including HS2) and London Transport.
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Thank you to all that replied to my question regarding travel between terminals at Heathrow
I used the free Heathrow Express train service - T5 to T1 took 4 mins on the train and vice versa - Simples
I used the free Heathrow Express train service - T5 to T1 took 4 mins on the train and vice versa - Simples