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Philippine Airlines
Will Philippine Airlines use T4?
Can anyone tell me when T2 is due to open? Presumably this will start another round of airline/terminal reshuffling as the Star Alliance carriers get consolidated in one terminal or is that not the plan?
Can anyone tell me when T2 is due to open? Presumably this will start another round of airline/terminal reshuffling as the Star Alliance carriers get consolidated in one terminal or is that not the plan?
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June 2014 for the opening of T2.
I think the airlines using T1 will be shifted to T2 as T1 will be demolished and rebuild. Once T1 has been re-builded and attached to the new T2 a full re-shuffle will happen.
Yes predicted Philippines to use T4.
I think the airlines using T1 will be shifted to T2 as T1 will be demolished and rebuild. Once T1 has been re-builded and attached to the new T2 a full re-shuffle will happen.
Yes predicted Philippines to use T4.
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Quote: "The Lib Dems have been in the coalition for three years now but don’t appear to have matured into a party of government. They’re still as mad as march hares!"
Quote: "As for the LD comment; well if they are immature, I hate to think what the Tory backbenchers pass for. In the current coalition, all the frothing has come from one side, the whispers of leadership challenges, the mutinous backbenchers who appear on tv chuntering, the unattributed briefings...and it hasn't been from the yellow peril."
Have you been following the Libdem conference?
Quote: "As for the LD comment; well if they are immature, I hate to think what the Tory backbenchers pass for. In the current coalition, all the frothing has come from one side, the whispers of leadership challenges, the mutinous backbenchers who appear on tv chuntering, the unattributed briefings...and it hasn't been from the yellow peril."
Have you been following the Libdem conference?
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BACK HEATHROW
Have just recieved a copy of "Back Heathrow", a four page newspaper. It's a campaign for "a bigger better and quieter Heathrow".
It appears that pro-Heathrow expansion groups are finally fighting back against the vocal minorities who want to see the airport closed down.
Back Heathrow
Their survey, done in the towns and villages around Heathrow, says yes to airport expansion. The surveys by three district councils around the airport apparently came out against.
What does this tell us? - that statistics can be manipulated and it all depends how the question is asked!
It appears that pro-Heathrow expansion groups are finally fighting back against the vocal minorities who want to see the airport closed down.
Back Heathrow
Their survey, done in the towns and villages around Heathrow, says yes to airport expansion. The surveys by three district councils around the airport apparently came out against.
What does this tell us? - that statistics can be manipulated and it all depends how the question is asked!
Last edited by Fairdealfrank; 18th Sep 2013 at 23:14.
Their survey, done in the towns and villages around Heathrow, says yes to airport expansion.
We're told that:
"If Heathrow isn’t allowed to expand, then our airport’s future will be under threat. If hub airport expansion is left to foreign rivals - or a new airport is built elsewhere - then that won’t leave enough flights to go through Heathrow for the airport to continue as it is. Instead, Heathrow will decline, even face closure, which would have a disastrous impact on local communities where those 114,000 people depend on Heathrow.
So the impression is cleverly left, without actually saying so, that the local population's desire not to see Heathrow close equates to unconditional support for its expansion. Job done.
It's a truly impressive piece of doublethink, and I take my hat off to the authors.
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The Populus report on the telephone survey is at
http://www.populus.co.uk/wp-content/...20Research.pdf
My recollection of the questions asked in the survey is that the report only deals with a small section of the questioning. Either Populus or Heathrow did not want to disclose the rest of it !
http://www.populus.co.uk/wp-content/...20Research.pdf
My recollection of the questions asked in the survey is that the report only deals with a small section of the questioning. Either Populus or Heathrow did not want to disclose the rest of it !
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Well well, despite being a small sample and inconsistent, it does reveal something.
The inconsistency relates to two things:
(1) why were the constituencies of Twickenham and Slough omited? Both are in the airport community, arguably more so than Richmond Park;
(2) why is Hillingdon done as a "borough" while the rest are on a constituency basis? The figures for the Hayes and Harlington constituency should have been included on their own, the rest of Hillingdon borough is irrelevant for these purposes.
Importantly it shows that HEATHROW is very low on the list of peoples' priorities and that no seats will change hands on this issue.
Interestingly, the Richmond Park constituency sticks out like a sore thumb.
Would hazard a guess that it has the least amount of "home-grown long term locals", particularly in Richmond, Kew Gardens and Barnes, they will have been driven out by house prices since the 1960s.
Richmond Park probably has the fewest airport workers/airport-related workers (they are not generally not well paid enough to afford Richmond house prices/rents).
Heathrow expansion is also more of an issue there because the MPs have made it so, on apparant environmental grounds, both former Libdems and currently the particularly high profile Conservative, Zac Goldsmith, who is always banging on about it.
On the other hand, it contains some of the richest in the country and they are far more likely to be travelling abroad, and doubtless use Heathrow, and would not want to see it closed and the hub moved to the estuary.
But even in the Richmond Park constituency, 63% think Heathrow is beneficial for them, 56% beneficial for the community and 75% beneficial for the country, and only 11% more oppose expansion than support it.
The potential closure of Heathrow will become a toxic issue locally in the unlikely event of the estuary hub being the favoured option. As we all know, without Heathrow closure, the estuary hub won't happen. Even with Heathrow closed, the airlines, premium passengers, and businesses looking for a European HQ may prefer Amsterdam to the estuary.
So if Heathrow closes, buy shares in KLM.
The inconsistency relates to two things:
(1) why were the constituencies of Twickenham and Slough omited? Both are in the airport community, arguably more so than Richmond Park;
(2) why is Hillingdon done as a "borough" while the rest are on a constituency basis? The figures for the Hayes and Harlington constituency should have been included on their own, the rest of Hillingdon borough is irrelevant for these purposes.
Importantly it shows that HEATHROW is very low on the list of peoples' priorities and that no seats will change hands on this issue.
Interestingly, the Richmond Park constituency sticks out like a sore thumb.
Would hazard a guess that it has the least amount of "home-grown long term locals", particularly in Richmond, Kew Gardens and Barnes, they will have been driven out by house prices since the 1960s.
Richmond Park probably has the fewest airport workers/airport-related workers (they are not generally not well paid enough to afford Richmond house prices/rents).
Heathrow expansion is also more of an issue there because the MPs have made it so, on apparant environmental grounds, both former Libdems and currently the particularly high profile Conservative, Zac Goldsmith, who is always banging on about it.
On the other hand, it contains some of the richest in the country and they are far more likely to be travelling abroad, and doubtless use Heathrow, and would not want to see it closed and the hub moved to the estuary.
But even in the Richmond Park constituency, 63% think Heathrow is beneficial for them, 56% beneficial for the community and 75% beneficial for the country, and only 11% more oppose expansion than support it.
The potential closure of Heathrow will become a toxic issue locally in the unlikely event of the estuary hub being the favoured option. As we all know, without Heathrow closure, the estuary hub won't happen. Even with Heathrow closed, the airlines, premium passengers, and businesses looking for a European HQ may prefer Amsterdam to the estuary.
So if Heathrow closes, buy shares in KLM.
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Heathrow Airport recreates departure day for a young man with autism
BBC News - Heathrow Airport recreates departure day for a young man with autism
Aaran Stewart does not react well to change.
The 21-year-old has severe autism and obsessive compulsive disorder, but has to negotiate the hectic bustle of Heathrow airport to attend Boston Higashi High School.
To cater for him, staff have attempted to recreate the same conditions every time he flies.
Four times a year for five years, Aaran has met the same airport staff, at the same check in desk, visiting the same shops, leaving from the same gate onto a plane on which the exact same seats are reserved.
his mother Amanda said Aaran would not be able to fly if any of the details were different.
She said: "Without the procedure we wouldn't be getting on the plane. It has to be carried out absolutely pristinely otherwise we'll end up with a problem."
The routine includes a visit to shops before heading to the same gate, gate A10. There has been changes however, as one of the outlets on his route has changed hands.
Mrs Stewart said: "It was an HMV but now it's a Dixons, so he retraced his steps inside as if it was HMV.
"It's routine based. If there are any delays he'll think you're going to try to change something which will then panic him. When we get to the gate he'll settle. Everything's gone to plan, he'll wait for the bus, we've got the seats we need and we're off!"
Mrs Stewart later explained that on arrival the bus did not display the flight number due to a malfunction on the screen, which led to Aaran growing suspicious about its destination. Fortunately the driver was able to quickly swap buses so he could display BA215 which resulted in Aaran getting on board and making his flight.
Mark Hicks, Head of Passenger Support Services at Heathrow said usually up to 2,500 people with disabilities including reduced mobility will use the airport in a day, from people with visual impairment to older people with reduced mobility.
Asked about whether the general experience of people with disabilities in airports had worsened, he said people notifying them ahead of their arrival did improve service, but the forecasts for the day could occasionally be outstripped by demand. He added they were striving for a balance which allowed people to retain their ability to travel spontaneously while meeting their needs.
Disability Consultant Geoff Adam Spink said of Aaran's experience: "Hats off to the people who organise it.
All too often it's wheelchairs all round and it doesn't matter what your disability is, someone will turn up with a wheelchair and can get quite irritated if you don't sit in it.
Aaran Stewart does not react well to change.
The 21-year-old has severe autism and obsessive compulsive disorder, but has to negotiate the hectic bustle of Heathrow airport to attend Boston Higashi High School.
To cater for him, staff have attempted to recreate the same conditions every time he flies.
Four times a year for five years, Aaran has met the same airport staff, at the same check in desk, visiting the same shops, leaving from the same gate onto a plane on which the exact same seats are reserved.
his mother Amanda said Aaran would not be able to fly if any of the details were different.
She said: "Without the procedure we wouldn't be getting on the plane. It has to be carried out absolutely pristinely otherwise we'll end up with a problem."
The routine includes a visit to shops before heading to the same gate, gate A10. There has been changes however, as one of the outlets on his route has changed hands.
Mrs Stewart said: "It was an HMV but now it's a Dixons, so he retraced his steps inside as if it was HMV.
"It's routine based. If there are any delays he'll think you're going to try to change something which will then panic him. When we get to the gate he'll settle. Everything's gone to plan, he'll wait for the bus, we've got the seats we need and we're off!"
Mrs Stewart later explained that on arrival the bus did not display the flight number due to a malfunction on the screen, which led to Aaran growing suspicious about its destination. Fortunately the driver was able to quickly swap buses so he could display BA215 which resulted in Aaran getting on board and making his flight.
Mark Hicks, Head of Passenger Support Services at Heathrow said usually up to 2,500 people with disabilities including reduced mobility will use the airport in a day, from people with visual impairment to older people with reduced mobility.
Asked about whether the general experience of people with disabilities in airports had worsened, he said people notifying them ahead of their arrival did improve service, but the forecasts for the day could occasionally be outstripped by demand. He added they were striving for a balance which allowed people to retain their ability to travel spontaneously while meeting their needs.
Disability Consultant Geoff Adam Spink said of Aaran's experience: "Hats off to the people who organise it.
All too often it's wheelchairs all round and it doesn't matter what your disability is, someone will turn up with a wheelchair and can get quite irritated if you don't sit in it.
From Travel Daily:
Commencing on 29 October 2013, the new route will become the first direct link between the capitals of Kazakhstan and the UK – Astana and London. Services will operate once a week, using a Boeing 757-200 aircraft with 16 seats in business class and 150 in economy.
Air Astana will operate a Boeing 757 on the route
The new London-Astana route will mark an extension of the airline’s existing services between London and Kazakhstan’s largest city, Almaty. On Tuesdays, Air Astana will fly the Almaty-London-Astana-Almaty route, while on Thursdays it will operate Almaty-Astana-London-Almaty. The Almaty-London-Almaty service will continue to operate on Saturdays.
“We are delighted to be able be able to increase services to the United Kingdom. Not only are we increasing our current capacity between Kazakhstan and London Heathrow by 50%, we are directly connecting the two capital cities for the first time. Following quickly on the heels of Prime Minister David Cameroon’s visit to Kazakhstan, this step demonstrates the strengthening relationship between the two countries and our increasing focus on Astana in the run up to Expo 2017,” said Air Astana’s president, Peter Foster.
Air Astana launched services between Almaty and London in December 2003 and has since carried more than 160,000 passengers on the route.
The new direct services from London to Astana will also enable UK-based passengers to connect to a range of regional destinations, including Urumqi, Tashkent, Bishkek, Novosibirsk, Yekaterinburg and Omsk.
Commencing on 29 October 2013, the new route will become the first direct link between the capitals of Kazakhstan and the UK – Astana and London. Services will operate once a week, using a Boeing 757-200 aircraft with 16 seats in business class and 150 in economy.
Air Astana will operate a Boeing 757 on the route
The new London-Astana route will mark an extension of the airline’s existing services between London and Kazakhstan’s largest city, Almaty. On Tuesdays, Air Astana will fly the Almaty-London-Astana-Almaty route, while on Thursdays it will operate Almaty-Astana-London-Almaty. The Almaty-London-Almaty service will continue to operate on Saturdays.
“We are delighted to be able be able to increase services to the United Kingdom. Not only are we increasing our current capacity between Kazakhstan and London Heathrow by 50%, we are directly connecting the two capital cities for the first time. Following quickly on the heels of Prime Minister David Cameroon’s visit to Kazakhstan, this step demonstrates the strengthening relationship between the two countries and our increasing focus on Astana in the run up to Expo 2017,” said Air Astana’s president, Peter Foster.
Air Astana launched services between Almaty and London in December 2003 and has since carried more than 160,000 passengers on the route.
The new direct services from London to Astana will also enable UK-based passengers to connect to a range of regional destinations, including Urumqi, Tashkent, Bishkek, Novosibirsk, Yekaterinburg and Omsk.
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Not having travelled through Heathrow for a long time, Am I right in thinking that the easiest and most convienent way to get from Terminal 5 to Terminal 1 is still on the Heathrow Express?
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c52,
I dont have an oyster card as I dont live in London just passing through
I will use the Heathrow Expres train then as a means to travel between the Terminals
Thank you for a speedy reply
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I dont have an oyster card as I dont live in London just passing through
I will use the Heathrow Expres train then as a means to travel between the Terminals
Thank you for a speedy reply
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Not having travelled through Heathrow for a long time, Am I right in thinking that the easiest and most convienent way to get from Terminal 5 to Terminal 1 is still on the Heathrow Express?
Heathrow: Travel between terminals
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Looks like buses and Express only I think. I actually got charged recently as well on the bus, I think that was a mistake as it was a first. Thanks for the link !