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Airferries - i just looked over the history on the last page and jetstreamtech was spot on about eastern taking over ASW and spot on about scratching the africa rumours. Looks to me like he has either got a good source at humberside or is still there himself.
Besides, if Arann gets cut back the Dash8 300 is the ideal aircraft to pick up some ATR72 routes which couldnt generate 72 pax so why is it that crazy anyhow? Could be a megga move for ASW
Besides, if Arann gets cut back the Dash8 300 is the ideal aircraft to pick up some ATR72 routes which couldnt generate 72 pax so why is it that crazy anyhow? Could be a megga move for ASW
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Changes to the Summer 2011 schedules include:
Plymouth-Newquay-Newcastle replaced with Newquay-Cardiff-Newcastle
Plymouth-Newquay-Gatwick reduced from 4 to 3 flights on weekdays
A new Plymouth-Leeds Saturday service
A new Plymouth-Dublin Saturday service
Plymouth and Newquay-Bristol-Manchester reduced to weekdays only
Plymouth-Newquay-Newcastle replaced with Newquay-Cardiff-Newcastle
Plymouth-Newquay-Gatwick reduced from 4 to 3 flights on weekdays
A new Plymouth-Leeds Saturday service
A new Plymouth-Dublin Saturday service
Plymouth and Newquay-Bristol-Manchester reduced to weekdays only
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Glasgow - Plymouth now goes direct to Plymouth and then onwards to Newquay.
It worrying for me, losing Newcastle, losing on roataion on the Gatwick. Hmmm, i feel Plymouth may not be seeing much expansion with the new owners now
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The Cardiff - Newcastle im guessing is being transfered from Eastern?!?
Maybe the Bristol routes could follow suit then. The Newquay-Cardiff-Newcastle is a good idea as the Cardiff route from Newquay was getting good loads back in 2007, if i correctly recall. I reckon it will do well
. I thought the Plymouth service did better then Newquay, so why has it been ditched, typical tho
An Edinburgh and Belfast route is long over due in my view, but the former could affect Glasgow so prob not.
It worrying for me, losing Newcastle, losing on roataion on the Gatwick. Hmmm, i feel Plymouth may not be seeing much expansion with the new owners now
. The Cardiff - Newcastle im guessing is being transfered from Eastern?!?
Maybe the Bristol routes could follow suit then. The Newquay-Cardiff-Newcastle is a good idea as the Cardiff route from Newquay was getting good loads back in 2007, if i correctly recall. I reckon it will do well
. I thought the Plymouth service did better then Newquay, so why has it been ditched, typical tho An Edinburgh and Belfast route is long over due in my view, but the former could affect Glasgow so prob not.
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i think that something is going on with the LGW rotation
now down to 3 a day but with some long ground stops at LGW:
NQY-LGW 0720-0830
LGW-NQY 1040-1150
NQY-LGW 1105-1215
LGW-NQY 1625-1800
NQY-LGW 1645-1755
LGW-NQY 1955-2105
what is the aircraft going to do for 2 hours on the ground at LGW during the 1st and 3rd rotations ? and 4 hours between arriving at LGW at lunchtime and departing at 1625 ?
cs
now down to 3 a day but with some long ground stops at LGW:
NQY-LGW 0720-0830
LGW-NQY 1040-1150
NQY-LGW 1105-1215
LGW-NQY 1625-1800
NQY-LGW 1645-1755
LGW-NQY 1955-2105
what is the aircraft going to do for 2 hours on the ground at LGW during the 1st and 3rd rotations ? and 4 hours between arriving at LGW at lunchtime and departing at 1625 ?
cs
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IOMspotter that's exactly what I heard and they are going to run it as Westward Airways,,,,,, pretty much 30 years to the day since we shut up shop......
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Not sure where you got your data but looking at the ASW website for June, the first PLH/NQY-LGW arrives 08:30 & leaves 09:05 for PLH/NQY, second rotation is in at 12:15 & out at 12:45 (to NQY then PLH) & the last has a longer layover arriving 17:55 & departing 18:45 (operates via NQY both ways.) It varies at the weekend but don't want to get any more spotter-ish!
Perhaps this is a commercially smart plan to offer more non stop services to NQY against the Flybe competition?
Not sure where you got your data but looking at the ASW website for June, the first PLH/NQY-LGW arrives 08:30 & leaves 09:05 for PLH/NQY, second rotation is in at 12:15 & out at 12:45 (to NQY then PLH) & the last has a longer layover arriving 17:55 & departing 18:45 (operates via NQY both ways.) It varies at the weekend but don't want to get any more spotter-ish!
Perhaps this is a commercially smart plan to offer more non stop services to NQY against the Flybe competition?
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NQY-LGW 0720-0830
LGW-NQY 1040-1150
NQY-LGW 1105-1215
LGW-NQY 1625-1800
NQY-LGW 1645-1755
LGW-NQY 1955-2105
What?! winter schedule is under way and no changes to LGW flights
NQY-LGW 0720-0830
LGW-NQY 1040-1150
NQY-LGW 1105-1215
LGW-NQY 1625-1800
NQY-LGW 1645-1755
LGW-NQY 1955-2105
What?! winter schedule is under way and no changes to LGW flights
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Going via PLH from Newquay to or from LGW puts me off using ASW but ninety nine times out of a hundred Flybe are cheaper anyway and I think better. Only way ASW might win my custom back is if the prices were lower than Flybe. Sorry guys.
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Groundhog, out of interest, is that based on headline price or the final price you get once you've gone through the booking process? Also, in what sense do you feel the Flybe offering is better? Is it just the direct thing? Just curious.
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oapilot - I am comparing final prices. We tend to either have a lot of baggage or none at all so not sure there is any rhyme or reason to it.
I have never had a bad flight with either, it is a personal thing rather like the difference between driving two equally good cars one just makes you feel better than the other, another person may have the opposite view.
If I have sat on a long haul aircraft for almost ten hours (YVR usually) all I want to do is get home and it does put me off having to land at Plymouth on the way back.
Bottom line is I would choose the airline which was most reasonable and that flew at the right schedule to suit my needs.
I have never had a bad flight with either, it is a personal thing rather like the difference between driving two equally good cars one just makes you feel better than the other, another person may have the opposite view.
If I have sat on a long haul aircraft for almost ten hours (YVR usually) all I want to do is get home and it does put me off having to land at Plymouth on the way back.
Bottom line is I would choose the airline which was most reasonable and that flew at the right schedule to suit my needs.
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Thanks Groundhog, appreciate your comments. No agenda in asking beyond an interest in finding out what people think we do well, and what we could make better.
Sometimes, you are right, these things come down to nothing more than that certain feeling. Glad to hear you've never had a bad flight with us though, and hopefully, circumstances will give us the opportunity to change your preference some time soon!
Sometimes, you are right, these things come down to nothing more than that certain feeling. Glad to hear you've never had a bad flight with us though, and hopefully, circumstances will give us the opportunity to change your preference some time soon!
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OApilot - you do more right than you think.
Call me a student of ASW. Personally I think the crew of ASW have an aweful to be proud of. The Southwest is an incredible destination and hopefully ASW can go onwards and upwards under Eastern's stewardship.
Ontime, value for money, know your customer - and in ASW's case you just need to know them alittle better than the other crowd - and I think you do!
Onwards and upwards.
Slan
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Call me a student of ASW. Personally I think the crew of ASW have an aweful to be proud of. The Southwest is an incredible destination and hopefully ASW can go onwards and upwards under Eastern's stewardship.
Ontime, value for money, know your customer - and in ASW's case you just need to know them alittle better than the other crowd - and I think you do!
Onwards and upwards.
Slan
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I have never had a bad flight with either, it is a personal thing rather like the difference between driving two equally good cars one just makes you feel better than the other, another person may have the opposite view.
I have used BE when necessary without major problems, but I like the overall ASW product better. Simply because I prefer the inclusive pricing concept over the "add this and that" and "are you really sure that you don't want to...." nuisance. Plus I am always for the "buy locally" approach if prices are reasonable.
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Demonstrates my point perfectly each to his own though I struggle to get my head round the buy locally bit Exeter vs Plymouth ( or is that Blackpool!).
I would love to see ASW move its base to Newquay and operate as a Cornish airline they really would be a West Country local airline then and as such would get much greater local support.
OApilot endorse all the comments, I have run companies including an airline and if only all people had your attitude!! (Apologies for being patronising if you are the CEO!)
I would love to see ASW move its base to Newquay and operate as a Cornish airline they really would be a West Country local airline then and as such would get much greater local support.
OApilot endorse all the comments, I have run companies including an airline and if only all people had your attitude!! (Apologies for being patronising if you are the CEO!)
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Groundhog, to me Air Southwest is the "local" airline of the southwest, whereas Flybe just happens to be headquartered at Exeter for historical reasons. I don't think they are particularly dedicated to the region any more.
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Groundhog - What are you on, by your logic Plymouth and Exeter are not in the West country then 
The business model for the gatwick flights works because they are not dependent on filling the aircraft at NQY.
Stick to going around spraying out the English Rose on the Cornish brown road signs and getting the number of people speaking Cornish to double figures.
The business model for the gatwick flights works because they are not dependent on filling the aircraft at NQY.Stick to going around spraying out the English Rose on the Cornish brown road signs and getting the number of people speaking Cornish to double figures.