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Old 26th Feb 2010, 22:38
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seems only natural especially considering SZ are using T3 to cover for defective aircraft and to cover for SZ's charter flights, i think that there has been a JS41 based at NQY for ad hoc cover work for the last 6 months at least.

It would make perfect sense to try and through ticket customers who wish fly for example NQY-ABZ (connecting at NCL from SZ - T3)

I wish this tie up all the best and suspect that we could see a good future for both airlines

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Old 27th Feb 2010, 00:28
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Nqy-boh-edi

I think this would put a hold on any BOH plans for ASW then because of Eastern's presence at Southampton. Wouldn't make much sense to do something from BOH. Had heard a rumour that NQY-BOH-EDI was being considered by ASW
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Old 27th Feb 2010, 11:10
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a year round EDI service would be really good !
but again i dont think much more can be done on the expansion front without some extra capacity

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Old 27th Feb 2010, 12:58
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but again i dont think much more can be done on the expansion front without some extra capacity
Lets just wait and see

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Old 27th Feb 2010, 15:47
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Sounds like good news and a push in the right direction for asw. I wondering what new machine plymouthair is talking about?
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Old 28th Feb 2010, 15:40
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a year round EDI service would be really good !
but again i dont think much more can be done on the expansion front without some extra capacity
Maybe now they have this alliance with T3 more could be done as T3's fleet of J41's are currently not used to there full potential.

I remember in the late 90's BA citiexpress operated a daiy Monday to Friday service EDI-BRS-PLH and a EDI-BRS-PLH-JER-CDG service. Loads on that route to PLH used to be quite good. I think that a one maybe twice daily EDI-NQY-PLH would do well. The demand would be there for a DH8 to operate the service in the summer. In the winter a J41 would suit the service better.
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Old 28th Feb 2010, 18:38
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I don't get this about eastern Airways, Can someone tell me more please?

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Old 28th Feb 2010, 19:35
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This story of an alliance first popped up 18 mnths ago. It also involved aurigny, blueislands and scot amongst others. basically trying to protect themselves against Flybe i think was the plan. don't know what became of it all tho
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Old 1st Mar 2010, 18:40
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As I understand it, it's a sort-of codeshare. So ASW flights will still be sold on their own website, but also promoted under T3 (Eastern) flight numbers via Eastern's links with the travel agents systems (GDS systems). So it gives ASW additional exposure in markets outside the South West where perhaps they aren't widely known at present.

The "extra machine" is, I believe, a Dash 8-200 due to arrive in the summer to act as a backup aircraft replacing the J41 they have on lease from Eastern at the moment. I guess the idea is it save money to have their own backup rather than an Eastern unit, and means their own crew can fly it, rather than Eastern's.
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Old 1st Mar 2010, 19:24
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I heard it's to be CAT III enabled with a plan for more charter work. Should be in PLH by June.
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Old 6th Mar 2010, 18:19
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A Dash 8-200????? Why!!!
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Old 6th Mar 2010, 19:06
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"I heard it's to be CAT III enabled with a plan for more charter work. Should be in PLH by June."

The Dash 8 is not and will not be Cat III capable without significant modifications and STC's in place! It's not like PLH airport is a Cat III or even Cat II certified airport anyway!
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It's not like PLH airport is a Cat III or even Cat II certified airport anyway!
But NQY is, as are rather a lot of other UK airports
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Old 6th Mar 2010, 19:43
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A Dash 8-200????? Why!!!
Very good question. If they are gonna add any other aircraft surely it makes sense to add more -300's or even a larger 400 for the LCY route??

It would be good to see SZ expand some more.

One route that would do well at least daily year round is EDI/PLH.

Other routes that could have potential are INV, ABZ and/or DND to NQY/PLH, As well as a seasonal route INV/NQY/JER.

Does anyone know if SZ have plans to expand. Maybe a new base??
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Old 6th Mar 2010, 20:08
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The 200 will be used on routes that have "limited" PAX
During the summer months I don't think there any routes with limited PAX numbers. Makes more sense to have a 300 so that if 1 of their 300s goes tts up, that A/C can jump in without SZ having to turn PAX away because of the less seats available on the 200.
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re your posts

I am sure the 200/300 can both be flown with a slight differences course.

The 400 I understand is classed as a Dfferent A/C and needs a seperate Type rating .

I also understand the 400 is very limited into LCY and thats why FlyBe dont go there



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Old 6th Mar 2010, 22:16
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I don't see why they would go for a smaller aircraft but they can't get a dash 8-Q400 as it would not be able to take off unless it only uses fuel to get them to Newquay and then fill up there for desenation but that would cost alot more than if they were to get another 300.
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Dale's right, the 400 just wouldn't work out of PLH, and the additional running costs must be unattractive at the moment.

Learjet, I may be wrong, but I think you can technically get away with a differences course moving from the 300 to the 400, although I know that Flybe went down the full course for their transitioning crews. Bombardier considered changing many things such as the overhead panel design and the crew alerting system (light box) to more modern designs, but went with versions of the old items to facilitate a common type.

Another 300 would have been great, but the Q200 is an interesting choice and may prove useful (and efficient) for charter work and developing new routes in the future, as well as occassional tech cover. Cat III would be a bonus given all the weather global warming seems to be bringing our way....
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Old 7th Mar 2010, 02:04
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any BOH opportunities?

with this new capacity will there be any opportunities for BOH? i keep seeing rumours on the BOH thread about NQY-BOH-EDI
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I think that the idea with the Q200 is to be able to loose the JS41 thats sat at NQY on standby. The JS41 currently covers or the -300 when tech and as others have stated will allow for charter work which SZ seem to pick up a bit of.

I would personally be surprised if this is the last expansion we see from SZ, the tie up with T3 should allow them into markets that they dont currently serve, as others have said i would of thought that there are some routes out there to run into NQY/PLH year round, EDI would be one of them and it wouldnt surprise me to see them operate into BOH as stated in the other thread.

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