The Huey in Capetown (including Huey down)
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Christo,
To answer your question, Carte Blanche have been monitoring the ENTIRE huey saga, all threads for some months now with their top investigative journalist on the job...
Should be interesting...
To answer your question, Carte Blanche have been monitoring the ENTIRE huey saga, all threads for some months now with their top investigative journalist on the job...
Should be interesting...
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Even with my head in a gopher hole I can clearly see that you immediately grabbed the bait, I mean checklist .......Do it by the rules............ yup, we can't help ourselves because we are, after all, creatures of our own severely regulated industry!
Even with my head in a gopher hole I can clearly see that you immediately grabbed the bait, I mean checklist .......Do it by the rules............ yup, we can't help ourselves because we are, after all, creatures of our own severely regulated industry!
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Glimmerman-Alpha, you are not correct to say that Shaun is their Operations Manager. He is in fact the sole director, the boss, the chief pilot, the combat guru and whatever makes the place tick. He is no pilot though, although he likes to tell people that he is.
I saw the Huey in Nelspruit last week, being flown by some guy from the Fire Fighting crowd. I'm surprised to see the piece of scrap still going.
It still beats me how the SACAA could allow this. Most of its major components are allegedly timex, the engine has been changed (from big to small) and the MR Blades still have epoxy patches from previous hole damage.
Good luck to them anyway.
The Huey is a great machine, and there are potential for these machines in SA, but unfortunately the Hueys are being handled by people who have no morals, ethics or ability to conduct business honestly. (Its amazing how those 2 guys get away with all their bull.)
Rumour has it that there is going to be another Court case soon between the SACAA and Supervan. The SACAA allegedly refuses to register the other scrap Hueys that Supervan wants to fly, and this is p
ing him off.
Furthermore, I hear that Supervan is now again selling franchises in the Hueys, and that the same is about to happen with the Frelons. Rumour also has it that he has already caught a few suckers this way........
Will those guys that read the AutoTrader stick to cars and forget about wealth creating schemes with helicopters...... Why don't they ever learn????
If the Cape Town Huey was like the UK Huey........ well, I would have then encouraged all to go for a flip on it, but unfortunately it aint!
I saw the Huey in Nelspruit last week, being flown by some guy from the Fire Fighting crowd. I'm surprised to see the piece of scrap still going.
It still beats me how the SACAA could allow this. Most of its major components are allegedly timex, the engine has been changed (from big to small) and the MR Blades still have epoxy patches from previous hole damage.
Good luck to them anyway.
The Huey is a great machine, and there are potential for these machines in SA, but unfortunately the Hueys are being handled by people who have no morals, ethics or ability to conduct business honestly. (Its amazing how those 2 guys get away with all their bull.)
Rumour has it that there is going to be another Court case soon between the SACAA and Supervan. The SACAA allegedly refuses to register the other scrap Hueys that Supervan wants to fly, and this is p
ing him off.Furthermore, I hear that Supervan is now again selling franchises in the Hueys, and that the same is about to happen with the Frelons. Rumour also has it that he has already caught a few suckers this way........
Will those guys that read the AutoTrader stick to cars and forget about wealth creating schemes with helicopters...... Why don't they ever learn????
If the Cape Town Huey was like the UK Huey........ well, I would have then encouraged all to go for a flip on it, but unfortunately it aint!
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"the MR Blades still have epoxy patches from previous hole damage."
Any other place in the world that alone would be enough to ground the aircraft. Blades with holes are scrapped. If it gives out what will occur will be catastrophic inflight blade seperation. The aircraft could become uncontrolable.
Some of our guys had one occur from another reason. Separation was near the tip of the blade. They barely got it on the ground.
Good Luck Nelspruit..........
Any other place in the world that alone would be enough to ground the aircraft. Blades with holes are scrapped. If it gives out what will occur will be catastrophic inflight blade seperation. The aircraft could become uncontrolable.
Some of our guys had one occur from another reason. Separation was near the tip of the blade. They barely got it on the ground.
Good Luck Nelspruit..........
WHEN is somebody / something / our authorities going to stop these bl__dy t_ts from flying this / these pieces of sh_t around over our skies in Cape Town? God forbid one goes down over a primary school building one day. I will spit blood....
"If the Cape Town Huey was like the UK Huey........ well, I would have then encouraged all to go for a flip on it, but unfortunately it aint!"
Knowing a bit about the UK Huey....and the place that did the overhaul....if the SA Huey was of this standard....there would not be a thread such as this.
I fail to understand why one would accept such risks as are suggested in posts made to this thread.
Flying bad iron will kill you.....and if you cannot provide a bonafide pedigree for all the parts and work done to the helicopter....it would appear to me....that flying in the thing without the pedigree would be paramount to suicide. At some point....if....operative word....if the parts are timed out...or inproperly overhauled or repaired.....in time they shall (imperative tense) fail and harm you.
The UK bird is sound...pretty...and done right....the question to ask yourselves....is the SA aircraft done to an airworthy standard? If the answer is yes....then no problem. If the answer is NO---then it is a no brainer.....don't touch it with a barge pole!
Knowing a bit about the UK Huey....and the place that did the overhaul....if the SA Huey was of this standard....there would not be a thread such as this.
I fail to understand why one would accept such risks as are suggested in posts made to this thread.
Flying bad iron will kill you.....and if you cannot provide a bonafide pedigree for all the parts and work done to the helicopter....it would appear to me....that flying in the thing without the pedigree would be paramount to suicide. At some point....if....operative word....if the parts are timed out...or inproperly overhauled or repaired.....in time they shall (imperative tense) fail and harm you.
The UK bird is sound...pretty...and done right....the question to ask yourselves....is the SA aircraft done to an airworthy standard? If the answer is yes....then no problem. If the answer is NO---then it is a no brainer.....don't touch it with a barge pole!
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Simple math:
"If the answer is NO---then it is a no brainer.....don't touch it with a barge pole!"
Plus the thread on "Crisis looming at SACAA" and one can understand the problem in its entirety.
"If the answer is NO---then it is a no brainer.....don't touch it with a barge pole!"
Plus the thread on "Crisis looming at SACAA" and one can understand the problem in its entirety.
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From African Pilot Newsletter Vol.4 No.33:
Right to privacy – from Deneys Reitz attorneys
Competitor filming of applicant’s activities to make complaint to the South African Civil Aviation Authority.
In the matter: Huey Extreme Club v McDonald VA Sport Helicopters 2005 (1) SA 485 (C).
Facts: The applicant and the responder operated helicopter services around the Cape Peninsula from sites relatively close to one another. The respondent had filmed the applicant’s operations on an ongoing basis and had made various inspection requests to the Civil Aviation Authority, alleging that the applicant had not complied with civil aviation regulations. The applicant applied for an order restraining the respondent from filming its activities.
Held: Not all invasions of privacy are lawful. In determining unlawfulness a court must have regard to contemporary public policy and the general sense of justice of the community. Although the applicant operates in a public sphere it is still entitles to a degree of privacy within the public arena. The continued filming of the applicant’s operations under the badge of public safety after all the various acceptable means to lodge complaints of the applicant’s alleged unlawful activities have been used in different forums, does not pass the public policy test. The respondent has gone beyond what is reasonable in order to ensure safety of the public regarding the applicant’s activities. The court granted the interdict.
Comment from Deneys Reitz: Most human rights-related decisions engage in a balancing exercise.
Competitor filming of applicant’s activities to make complaint to the South African Civil Aviation Authority.
In the matter: Huey Extreme Club v McDonald VA Sport Helicopters 2005 (1) SA 485 (C).
Facts: The applicant and the responder operated helicopter services around the Cape Peninsula from sites relatively close to one another. The respondent had filmed the applicant’s operations on an ongoing basis and had made various inspection requests to the Civil Aviation Authority, alleging that the applicant had not complied with civil aviation regulations. The applicant applied for an order restraining the respondent from filming its activities.
Held: Not all invasions of privacy are lawful. In determining unlawfulness a court must have regard to contemporary public policy and the general sense of justice of the community. Although the applicant operates in a public sphere it is still entitles to a degree of privacy within the public arena. The continued filming of the applicant’s operations under the badge of public safety after all the various acceptable means to lodge complaints of the applicant’s alleged unlawful activities have been used in different forums, does not pass the public policy test. The respondent has gone beyond what is reasonable in order to ensure safety of the public regarding the applicant’s activities. The court granted the interdict.
Comment from Deneys Reitz: Most human rights-related decisions engage in a balancing exercise.
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The legal saga continues!
Rumour has it that Supervan intends sueing the SACAA for passing some regulation in which the SACAA will not be allowing the registration of former military aircraft for the next 2 years.
The SACAA apparently implimented this regulation specifically due to the problems they have been having with the Cape Town Huey. They lost a couple of Court cases against van der Merwe, so now it looks like they're going to have to face him in court once again.......
In the mean time the Huey works in Nelspruit on a fire contract with no airworthiness whatsoever, all of course with the approval of the SACAA.... I must say the SACAA does have a very strange relationship with the Cape Town Huey people.
This regulation it appears, are also going to screw Elvis' plans of getting his Huey here, which I believe is still under seizure in the USA.
Rumour also has it that Supervan was recently hospitalized to effect a repair to a knee cap which was taken out with a baseball bat/gun butt by one of his former......... well,..... people that don't like him toooo much.
The best part of it all is that as the rumour goes, his chief engineer, the man who's name may not be mentioned on this forum, but who is related to a jackal, set up the deal on a lonely road South East of Johannesburg, and apparently received a handsome cash reward from the man who inflicted the damage/revenge/pain on his longtime arch enemy.... Supervan!
Rumour in JHB has it that the entire assualt was arranged by the engineer and the signal to it all was the flashing of car lights and the pretence of a road rage incident. One can only but wonder where the saga with the two Gary's are gonna end.
Ten years ago they were sueing each other big time in JHB, now they're working together. I've seen strange relationships in my life time, but I find it hard to fathom out this lot.
Good luck to them!
Rumour has it that Supervan intends sueing the SACAA for passing some regulation in which the SACAA will not be allowing the registration of former military aircraft for the next 2 years.
The SACAA apparently implimented this regulation specifically due to the problems they have been having with the Cape Town Huey. They lost a couple of Court cases against van der Merwe, so now it looks like they're going to have to face him in court once again.......
In the mean time the Huey works in Nelspruit on a fire contract with no airworthiness whatsoever, all of course with the approval of the SACAA.... I must say the SACAA does have a very strange relationship with the Cape Town Huey people.
This regulation it appears, are also going to screw Elvis' plans of getting his Huey here, which I believe is still under seizure in the USA.
Rumour also has it that Supervan was recently hospitalized to effect a repair to a knee cap which was taken out with a baseball bat/gun butt by one of his former......... well,..... people that don't like him toooo much.
The best part of it all is that as the rumour goes, his chief engineer, the man who's name may not be mentioned on this forum, but who is related to a jackal, set up the deal on a lonely road South East of Johannesburg, and apparently received a handsome cash reward from the man who inflicted the damage/revenge/pain on his longtime arch enemy.... Supervan!
Rumour in JHB has it that the entire assualt was arranged by the engineer and the signal to it all was the flashing of car lights and the pretence of a road rage incident. One can only but wonder where the saga with the two Gary's are gonna end.
Ten years ago they were sueing each other big time in JHB, now they're working together. I've seen strange relationships in my life time, but I find it hard to fathom out this lot.
Good luck to them!
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Alwaysinverted, RUMOUR has it that you are the same person as Clipboard, Bladestrap, Carnivoruslegalus and Foxtrot Mike. This comes from a reliable source..... Judging from YOUR OPINIONS, this comes as no surprise!
Well LH, this is a Rumour Network after all, is'nt it?
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Always Upsidedown writes:"In the mean time the Huey works in Nelspruit on a fire contract with no airworthiness whatsoever, all of course with the approval of the SACAA.... "
The first part of that may be true, and Im certain CAA has been at Nelspruit. However I dont think the aircraft is flying with their approval, at least I hope not. I just believe they are not ready to stick their hands up the Lions Butt until they get some better Gloves.
The first part of that may be true, and Im certain CAA has been at Nelspruit. However I dont think the aircraft is flying with their approval, at least I hope not. I just believe they are not ready to stick their hands up the Lions Butt until they get some better Gloves.
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Alwaysinverted, RUMOUR has it that you are the same person as Clipboard, Bladestrap, Carnivoruslegalus and Foxtrot Mike. This comes from a reliable source..... Judging from YOUR OPINIONS, this comes as no surprise!
why would Broberg want gloves???? His hands are already dirty....
Now, I wonder if there isn't a bit of Injector or Jackal in a bit of the heat...
Some BIG comments you are making here, I wonder if you would do so without hiding behind a 'no-name'.
Stones and glass houses, sunshine...
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Greetings Gunss
I dropped the good Bert off at JIA last week and the feds assured me he got on the plane (first class, nogal) first to froggy land and then to his little pad in the desert.
Believe he is going to do some sling work around the break in the Mississippi for now.
Cheers
R
I dropped the good Bert off at JIA last week and the feds assured me he got on the plane (first class, nogal) first to froggy land and then to his little pad in the desert.
Believe he is going to do some sling work around the break in the Mississippi for now.
Cheers
R
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Ja Guns, just sitting here waitin for my ticket. Gonna pick up a 407 and do a maximum cross country from California to Alabama.
Sort of like (Capetown to Nelspruit)
I Miss those Lamb Chops and Calamari already........ but 10 of 11 bottles of good wine made the trek.......Gonna have to intro you to some folks down your way who wont let you in the door with Tassies. You will enjoy it.........Next year.
Sort of like (Capetown to Nelspruit)
I Miss those Lamb Chops and Calamari already........ but 10 of 11 bottles of good wine made the trek.......Gonna have to intro you to some folks down your way who wont let you in the door with Tassies. You will enjoy it.........Next year.
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Rumour has it that the guy who sold the Huey to Elvis in the USA got arrested recently for violating federal law.
Seems like elvis will never see the Huey...only the numberplate on his car(which is spelt incorrectly)
Seems like elvis will never see the Huey...only the numberplate on his car(which is spelt incorrectly)