The Huey in Capetown (including Huey down)
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Dont take the bait Bert! Let it be.
Judging from LH's postings, he's there, right in the middle of it all. Its apparent that his job is to defend the Huey, and to defame anyone that posts negative comments on the Huey.
Reading thru his postings here on pprune, one can immediately draw the conclusion that this dude is bored to death. His postings have been nothing other than to pitch for the Huey, and the rest of it is pretty mundane and boring and bears no real relevance to aviation. He is definately a non aviation type.
I'd bet my last bottom dollar that this is a wannabee for sure!
Judging from LH's postings, he's there, right in the middle of it all. Its apparent that his job is to defend the Huey, and to defame anyone that posts negative comments on the Huey.
Reading thru his postings here on pprune, one can immediately draw the conclusion that this dude is bored to death. His postings have been nothing other than to pitch for the Huey, and the rest of it is pretty mundane and boring and bears no real relevance to aviation. He is definately a non aviation type.
I'd bet my last bottom dollar that this is a wannabee for sure!
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Alwaysinverted...Im going to call you XXXXX and you can call me XXXXX.
For sure i will stand up for the Huey Extreme Club and i will do my best to protect it. Especially when people talk too much KAK. You know what i mean.
Back to Bert. Just want you to that im not that way inclined to make false accusations but if you want us to, we can post the medical report of the people that got injured by a pole that got dropped from a helicopter on the chapmans Peak job. Surely you could not have forgotten so soon???? Was this incident ever reported???
Fire away or walk away.
For sure i will stand up for the Huey Extreme Club and i will do my best to protect it. Especially when people talk too much KAK. You know what i mean.
Back to Bert. Just want you to that im not that way inclined to make false accusations but if you want us to, we can post the medical report of the people that got injured by a pole that got dropped from a helicopter on the chapmans Peak job. Surely you could not have forgotten so soon???? Was this incident ever reported???
Fire away or walk away.
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Was it not Uncle Arthur B that dropped the pole ?
Anyway people drop 750 kg of cement block on a cable car in the Swiss Alps - so what is a pole and a broken leg ?
Anyway people drop 750 kg of cement block on a cable car in the Swiss Alps - so what is a pole and a broken leg ?
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So Latent heat is Shaun . I do believe we have met under better circumstances.. Sad to see someone has their fingers up there wiggling thy lips....
Anyway I will take all as rumor here, so if you need mud slinging, shoot your best shot.
What I post has my name to it and I cant join you at the bottom of the toilet bowl.
Im sorry to say I know where your coming from, Golf Cart drivers/Ticket Takers are not facing major career enhancememnts down in the Cape as BEE pretty much guarantees more Caddies for a better price.
Since you are not a Pilot and more than likely will not advance past passenger at best, I find no need to overreact.
Please post a medical report with dates etc. as I have never heard of it....
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Also needed to be addressed.. I have caused?? Im not operating that place. The statements and opinions are true, therefore any damage is in the truth being known. Consider that most of the morons who hop on tours believe that all is well and the operation is well regulated. Little do they know.........
Shot. Splash, Fire For Effect.....
Anyway I will take all as rumor here, so if you need mud slinging, shoot your best shot.
What I post has my name to it and I cant join you at the bottom of the toilet bowl.
Im sorry to say I know where your coming from, Golf Cart drivers/Ticket Takers are not facing major career enhancememnts down in the Cape as BEE pretty much guarantees more Caddies for a better price.
Since you are not a Pilot and more than likely will not advance past passenger at best, I find no need to overreact.
Please post a medical report with dates etc. as I have never heard of it....
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Please sit back and ask yourself how much damage you have caused a certain PART 94 operator with all your statements and opinions???
Shot. Splash, Fire For Effect.....
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I am sure you do not need me to remind some of you of the forum rules concerning the use of real names that are not already in the wider public domain. Please bear them in mind !
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Latent Heat:
There is an Afrikaans saying: "Slim vang sy baas."
Its just a matter of time boet, just a matter of time
Oh by the way, that so called PPL/fuel boy/ticket salesman -Johan, he is probably still flying the Huey. You must be
crazy to think that your "smooth operation" is a proper cornerstone heli operation.
A dedicated aviator is passionate about his job, the aircraft AND follows the LAW.
Enough said, I know you'll come back with some sort of posting stating that you are legal and CAA gave you all the permission blah blah blah.
Cry me a River LH
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There is an Afrikaans saying: "Slim vang sy baas."
Its just a matter of time boet, just a matter of time
Oh by the way, that so called PPL/fuel boy/ticket salesman -Johan, he is probably still flying the Huey. You must be
crazy to think that your "smooth operation" is a proper cornerstone heli operation. A dedicated aviator is passionate about his job, the aircraft AND follows the LAW.
Enough said, I know you'll come back with some sort of posting stating that you are legal and CAA gave you all the permission blah blah blah.
Cry me a River LH
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Jetdriver, thanks but i dont mind people calling my name out..
Glimmerman A - Is it breaking the law to have a PPL sitting in the left hand seat?
"It's just a matter of time boet just a matter of time" - Im waiting for you....you know where im at..
Glimmerman A - Is it breaking the law to have a PPL sitting in the left hand seat?
"It's just a matter of time boet just a matter of time" - Im waiting for you....you know where im at..
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LH:
Its typical of you Huey folks. I have no intention of coming to you.
Its just a matter of time before you crash the Huey/Alo while carrying pax or some other mishap.You Dont have to get all emotional on me,relax while you still can
cause once you get into some sort of s its gonna be an uphill battle......
Its typical of you Huey folks. I have no intention of coming to you.
Its just a matter of time before you crash the Huey/Alo while carrying pax or some other mishap.You Dont have to get all emotional on me,relax while you still can
cause once you get into some sort of s its gonna be an uphill battle......
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Well, well, well...
Latent Heat - Shaun you say..?
Well, bear in mind Shaun, since you placed your name in the public domain, then there it shall be..
Now, maybe you should find a good lawyer - not the same one fighting your case to stay in business, but one who can protect you from civil defamation claims..
Your comment:
and those directed at Bert have just been qualified by you putting you name to them.
Of course - the possibilty does exist that you are not Shaun, but then a simple IT excercise will establish that.
I do however believe you are - as stupidity and arrogance really do know no bounds.
Keep talking sunshine, keep talking...
R
Latent Heat - Shaun you say..?
Well, bear in mind Shaun, since you placed your name in the public domain, then there it shall be..
Now, maybe you should find a good lawyer - not the same one fighting your case to stay in business, but one who can protect you from civil defamation claims..
Your comment:
why would Broberg want gloves???? His hands are already dirty....
Of course - the possibilty does exist that you are not Shaun, but then a simple IT excercise will establish that.
I do however believe you are - as stupidity and arrogance really do know no bounds.
Keep talking sunshine, keep talking...
R
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Expect a few Latent Heat posts with the wording : "EDIT" at the bottom to appear soon ...
So Shaun the ticket seller ... great man - great
Gerry loved your post - he has it on his desk
So Shaun the ticket seller ... great man - great
Gerry loved your post - he has it on his desk
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Wannabee for sure! It looks like this dude has now disappeared! Hopefully we can now get back to meaningful opinions and views instead of settling personal vendettas here on pprune and defaming the innocent.
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What if Latent Heat is not Shaun but the Jackal instead.... I wont be surprised
Alwaysinverted, Good call-lets start putting some meaningful opinions on threads which actually concerns us.
Fly Safe boys
Alwaysinverted, Good call-lets start putting some meaningful opinions on threads which actually concerns us.
Fly Safe boys
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Cape Times: 27 Sep 2005
Waterfront victory as court grounds 'unsafe' helicopter
By Staff Writer
The V&A Waterfront has won a victory in court which forces the grounding of a Vietnam War Huey helicopter, which has been used for tourist flights over Cape Town.
The aircraft was operated from the Waterfront helipad leased to Helicopter & Marine by V&A Waterfront Properties. The judgment was issued by the Supreme Court of Appeal (SCA) in Bloemfontein yesterday and overturned a Cape High Court judgment which effectively allowed the Huey Extreme Club and Helicopter and Marine Services to operate the Bell Huey from the Breakwater East Pier, despite a Civil Aviation Authority grounding order issued last year.
On the basis that an allegedly unairworthy craft taking off and landing from its property constituted a safety hazard, the Waterfront initially took the matter to the high court after the helicopter's operators refused to obey the grounding order.
The Huey's owners won that case, which was then taken on appeal to Bloemfontein.
Yesterday a full bench of the SCA, led by Justice P Howie, ordered that the companies "be interdicted and restrained from operating the Bell helicopter ... from the helipad situated (in the) V&A Waterfront, Cape Town, pending the upliftment of a grounding order issued by the South African Civil Aviation Authority on January 7, 2004".
It also ordered the companies to pay the Waterfront's costs.
Justice Howie said: "The threatened use of the helicopter in conflict with the grounding order was in law a threat to invade the V&A's clear right to stop illicit operation of the craft at the premises. The respondents' threat to ignore the grounding order amounted ... to a threat to breach their lease (with the Waterfront).
"As no other ordinary legal remedy except an interdict could protect the V&A's rights, the high court application ought to have succeeded."
In finding for the V&A, he said that all the requirements for an interdict had been met.
The Supreme Court of Appeal said, therefore, it was unnecessary for the V&A to prove that the helicopter was unairworthy.
V&A Waterfront managing director Derick van der Merwe said they were obviously happy and relieved by the judgment.
"We were actually more concerned about them operating and ignoring the (CAA's) grounding order. For the public's safety we had to do what was necessary.
"As soon as they satisfy the CAA, then the ban can be lifted. The aircraft has to have an approval certificate. Our problem was mainly the ignoring of the grounding order," said Van der Merwe.
He said the V&A Waterfront didn't have to do much now as the judgment spoke for itself.
"They (Huey Extreme Club) were obviously in court and we don't have to do much on our side," said Derek van der Merwe.
Helicopter and Marine Services director Gary van der Merwe said he would be able to make a full comment only once he had read the judgment.
By Staff Writer
The V&A Waterfront has won a victory in court which forces the grounding of a Vietnam War Huey helicopter, which has been used for tourist flights over Cape Town.
The aircraft was operated from the Waterfront helipad leased to Helicopter & Marine by V&A Waterfront Properties. The judgment was issued by the Supreme Court of Appeal (SCA) in Bloemfontein yesterday and overturned a Cape High Court judgment which effectively allowed the Huey Extreme Club and Helicopter and Marine Services to operate the Bell Huey from the Breakwater East Pier, despite a Civil Aviation Authority grounding order issued last year.
On the basis that an allegedly unairworthy craft taking off and landing from its property constituted a safety hazard, the Waterfront initially took the matter to the high court after the helicopter's operators refused to obey the grounding order.
The Huey's owners won that case, which was then taken on appeal to Bloemfontein.
Yesterday a full bench of the SCA, led by Justice P Howie, ordered that the companies "be interdicted and restrained from operating the Bell helicopter ... from the helipad situated (in the) V&A Waterfront, Cape Town, pending the upliftment of a grounding order issued by the South African Civil Aviation Authority on January 7, 2004".
It also ordered the companies to pay the Waterfront's costs.
Justice Howie said: "The threatened use of the helicopter in conflict with the grounding order was in law a threat to invade the V&A's clear right to stop illicit operation of the craft at the premises. The respondents' threat to ignore the grounding order amounted ... to a threat to breach their lease (with the Waterfront).
"As no other ordinary legal remedy except an interdict could protect the V&A's rights, the high court application ought to have succeeded."
In finding for the V&A, he said that all the requirements for an interdict had been met.
The Supreme Court of Appeal said, therefore, it was unnecessary for the V&A to prove that the helicopter was unairworthy.
V&A Waterfront managing director Derick van der Merwe said they were obviously happy and relieved by the judgment.
"We were actually more concerned about them operating and ignoring the (CAA's) grounding order. For the public's safety we had to do what was necessary.
"As soon as they satisfy the CAA, then the ban can be lifted. The aircraft has to have an approval certificate. Our problem was mainly the ignoring of the grounding order," said Van der Merwe.
He said the V&A Waterfront didn't have to do much now as the judgment spoke for itself.
"They (Huey Extreme Club) were obviously in court and we don't have to do much on our side," said Derek van der Merwe.
Helicopter and Marine Services director Gary van der Merwe said he would be able to make a full comment only once he had read the judgment.
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Mmmm, sounds interesting this "barnie" between the van der Merwes.
Gary, Derick,......is'nt there a Tony in the lot there somewhere??? Some boat dude!?
So now Mr. Latent Heat..... these Hueys...... that are going to fly and fly and fly and fly??????
Gary, Derick,......is'nt there a Tony in the lot there somewhere??? Some boat dude!?
So now Mr. Latent Heat..... these Hueys...... that are going to fly and fly and fly and fly??????
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Foxtrot Mike or should i call you Obelix????
The Huey is not grounded. The V and A has an interdict to stop the Huey flying from the Waterfront until the CAA lifts its grounding order, an order which was in turn overturned by another court.
Will keep you up to date with the correct info.
The Huey is not grounded. The V and A has an interdict to stop the Huey flying from the Waterfront until the CAA lifts its grounding order, an order which was in turn overturned by another court.
Will keep you up to date with the correct info.
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huey in cape town
"alwaysinverted"
i am eager to understand your persistant intrest in the "huey in cape town" topic - seems that you have a personal issue with the huey boys.
care to tell?
i am a fan of all military aircraft and am not able to understand why people are not wanting to see the airborne.
sad really.
Dear newly registered and puzzled Ignite. As you're writing from helibase you are either terminally dim or or looking for a gig ticket collecting. Regards from the Towers
Rob Lloyd
i am eager to understand your persistant intrest in the "huey in cape town" topic - seems that you have a personal issue with the huey boys.
care to tell?
i am a fan of all military aircraft and am not able to understand why people are not wanting to see the airborne.
sad really.
Dear newly registered and puzzled Ignite. As you're writing from helibase you are either terminally dim or or looking for a gig ticket collecting.
Regards from the TowersRob Lloyd
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IGNITE, thanks for the [ fake and self interested - RL] support. The dude that you mentioned is the guy we call "Obelix" I believe [ I can deflect interest in the court order by reminding everyone - RL] he flew the Huey for sometime and then left on bad terms [ terms which delays me having to explain the curious final sentence in my previous post that might give naive readers the impression costs weren't awarded against us and we can keep on flying - RL] ....Sour grapes i believe.
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There is no problem with military aircraft. Just comply with the laws & regulations..... Thunder City never has a problem....but the Huey boys...Oh boy
LH, Think you should go read that judgement before you make another hash on this forum
Seems like you have a personal problem with a lot of guys around
Fly Safe
LH, Think you should go read that judgement before you make another hash on this forum
Seems like you have a personal problem with a lot of guys around
Fly Safe