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I will have to agree with Silver on this one. I have nothing against the MPL concept. I have even visited Clark a few times and talked with students and instructors. But In my opinion the basic flaw is having the student pay for the training. Every student should have a sponser airline paying for most if not all of their training with a contract/bond ageement. One of the big problems with having the students pay is Alpha has every incentive to pass them no matter what. They will be more motivated on profits than turning out a quality pilot. In the end the good pilots that make it through will be tainted because of a few that pass, that shoud not have, and give the school a bad reputation. If the airlines were sponsoring and paying the poor performers would be weeded out along the way. Another issue is something that has been mentioned before. Most of the students that will be able to afford this program will be coming from wealthy upper class families. In my experiance some of these tend to not work as hard as students paying their own way and feel that their passing is a given.
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Hi There,
I just wanted to have something(s) cleared out here,
Being in the UAE since birth, I know that there are no Guarantees what so ever...even UAE Nationals can't get that guarantees, but I know another important thing...if they give you a promise & everything goes on well...you will get what you were promised for!!!, this is one of the very old traditions in this Country...
In Aviation, connections with the emplyees in the Airline industry is a must, for example, I was in Bahrain for JAR-66 tests & met alots of airline employees from accross the region, some work for Gulf Air, Emirates, Kuwaiti Airlines...etc., I kept some contacts with them...everytime there is a job opening...they contact me first & offer their help throughout the application! & its the same thing in the Flight Ops...trust me, so no matter what, connections are number 1, in parallel to experience.
About coming from a wealthy family or so, I do come from a Kinda wealthy Family & had never thought about studying less or more, I just study, get my stuff done (High grades) & don't even ask for a penny from my parents, I try my best to get my money from my own work !, but this time...its a big one, my parents told me that if I didn't deserve it...they wouldn't even think about it...
Anyways its a win/win situation, where as a PPRuNer said, add up the costs of Quality Flight Training + MPL + Type Rating + CRM/MCC/FTDs + 12 TOs & Landings + additional 40 sectors (Air Arabia contract...not AAA) + Job Interview with a high % chance of employment...its really worth it !
About getting the enough money...I know a doctor at the Age of 37 who left his office & went for flight training in Canada...guess what...he is now working with Air Canada & waiting for his interview for Etihad !, so get a certificate, work for a couple of years (save money) then fly !
I just wanted to have something(s) cleared out here,
Being in the UAE since birth, I know that there are no Guarantees what so ever...even UAE Nationals can't get that guarantees, but I know another important thing...if they give you a promise & everything goes on well...you will get what you were promised for!!!, this is one of the very old traditions in this Country...
In Aviation, connections with the emplyees in the Airline industry is a must, for example, I was in Bahrain for JAR-66 tests & met alots of airline employees from accross the region, some work for Gulf Air, Emirates, Kuwaiti Airlines...etc., I kept some contacts with them...everytime there is a job opening...they contact me first & offer their help throughout the application! & its the same thing in the Flight Ops...trust me, so no matter what, connections are number 1, in parallel to experience.
About coming from a wealthy family or so, I do come from a Kinda wealthy Family & had never thought about studying less or more, I just study, get my stuff done (High grades) & don't even ask for a penny from my parents, I try my best to get my money from my own work !, but this time...its a big one, my parents told me that if I didn't deserve it...they wouldn't even think about it...
Anyways its a win/win situation, where as a PPRuNer said, add up the costs of Quality Flight Training + MPL + Type Rating + CRM/MCC/FTDs + 12 TOs & Landings + additional 40 sectors (Air Arabia contract...not AAA) + Job Interview with a high % chance of employment...its really worth it !
About getting the enough money...I know a doctor at the Age of 37 who left his office & went for flight training in Canada...guess what...he is now working with Air Canada & waiting for his interview for Etihad !, so get a certificate, work for a couple of years (save money) then fly !
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So what happens if Air Arabia doesn't consider the MPL cadets at the end? Where do the students stand at that point and what options do they have? They can apply to any airline seeking A320 pilots, no? I mean all that A320 rating and sector training shouldn't be a waste of time (and money) I think.
The type rating here won't worth a penny! It was gained on MPL basis...so a cadet should obtain the fATPL in order to have his type rating recognized. The employer will look at the type of licence before he looks at a wealth of type ratings.
if they give you a promise & everything goes on well...you will get what you were promised for!!!, this is one of the very old traditions in this Country...
I can tell you that like many folks, I do love UAE and their traditions too...But do you really mean that a word of mouth might be equal to the written contract? In the airline industry?! In this materialistic world?!! I hope that you are right about this.
Anyways its a win/win situation
Apparently Air Arabia is more interested in low time MPLs than experienced but non type rated fATPLs... and that seems very wrong to me.
The decision you will be making about where and how to get your training is crucial. Let's keep in mind the history of Alpha Aviation back in their country of origin! May be things will be different in Sharjah.. And I hope so...But up until now , it's leaning towards the negative side of the term "may be" I think!
Safety comes first fellows.
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i think there is a grave misunderstanding in the issue of MPL sponsorship which needs to be corrected now lest it propagate further. let's try and be logical here, gentlemen/ ladies. this is a reply to no specific person, but to a few statements i picked up in the thread.
1. MPL should not be self-sponsored..ever!
why would ICAO or the CAA's bother to check who pays the bill??? (pardon my triple question marks, i seem to have picked up this bad habit for drama in this forum)
their rightful concern is training -- whether the training in the MPL academy is aligned with the SOP's of the partner airline. who gets to pay for the training (whether airline or the cadet) is none of its business, as it is none of their business to check who pays for your PPL, CPL, IR, fATPL, ME, Instructors rating, or Type Rating. I know of a lot of people who pay for their own CPL all the way to TR: what difference does that have to someone who pays on his own for the MPL?
again and let's put this to rest: airline partnership in the MPL means operational and training partnership, not a financial partnership.
if any body here wants the airline to pick up the tab what he should do is go to the airline and negotiate his way into getting a training package in exchange for a bond of say, 3 years. then if he is successful, he should log on to PPRUNE first thing the following morning and tell all of us here the juicy details so he can help fellow (would be) aviators!
2. Most of the students that will be able to afford this program will be coming from wealthy upper class families. In my experiance some of these tend to not work as hard as students paying their own way and feel that their passing is a given.
this got me a little confused. i thought the point was being raised against students who pay for their training?
in case it is just typo error and the point being made is about rich kids not being diligent students, then i will say this is a general educational problem, not a problem limited to MPL training. All schools, colleges, universities, training programs, need to ensure the lazy guys perform well or get kicked out. so this is not exactly a comment against the MPL, but rather a challenge for the school -- make sure no rich bum thinks he is entitled to get the MPL without performing well, just because he paid big bucks!
3. One of the big problems with having the students pay is Alpha has every incentive to pass them no matter what. They will be more motivated on profits than turning out a quality pilot.
Every business ALWAYS has this dilemma: how to make money without sacrificing quality (which costs a lot). Why make a specific item against a specific company? Isn't it a little naive to think the other training companies offering other courses do not have this challenge? I am not from Alpha, but guys, let's be fair here. This is again obviously not an MPL issue.
4. In the end the good pilots that make it through will be tainted because of a few that pass, that shoud not have, and give the school a bad reputation.
Show me a school where this is not an issue.
5. If the airlines were sponsoring and paying the poor performers would be weeded out along the way.
this statement got me thinking, how exactly is this going to be done? and i am thought that it is assuming since the airlines are more concerned with safety, they will exert more diligence in checking the performance of their sponsored cadets. this is actually a good point.
but I will tell you this: airlines are businesses too, right? aren't they affected by the profit motive, too? if we think everybody who is out to make a profit will sacrifice quality, then that affects everyone, not just the schools.
the point i am trying to make is this: we are talking big bucks here. airlines naturally will be wary, as the school and the families should, too.
every would be cadet needs to take a long hard look at his options, and his risks. however we need to be objective and fair, and not muddle the issues any further.
MPL requires lots of money and good training plus a partner airline. i suggest all the cadets check if all three are present and in good quality before taking the plunge. Ask lots of questions. Look at contracts. DO due diligence studies. In other words, BE RESPONSIBLE STUDENTS starting with an honest to goodness risk assessments.
to malirm and emiratesson, good luck! i hope your studies go well.
1. MPL should not be self-sponsored..ever!
why would ICAO or the CAA's bother to check who pays the bill??? (pardon my triple question marks, i seem to have picked up this bad habit for drama in this forum
)their rightful concern is training -- whether the training in the MPL academy is aligned with the SOP's of the partner airline. who gets to pay for the training (whether airline or the cadet) is none of its business, as it is none of their business to check who pays for your PPL, CPL, IR, fATPL, ME, Instructors rating, or Type Rating. I know of a lot of people who pay for their own CPL all the way to TR: what difference does that have to someone who pays on his own for the MPL?
again and let's put this to rest: airline partnership in the MPL means operational and training partnership, not a financial partnership.
if any body here wants the airline to pick up the tab what he should do is go to the airline and negotiate his way into getting a training package in exchange for a bond of say, 3 years. then if he is successful, he should log on to PPRUNE first thing the following morning and tell all of us here the juicy details so he can help fellow (would be) aviators!
2. Most of the students that will be able to afford this program will be coming from wealthy upper class families. In my experiance some of these tend to not work as hard as students paying their own way and feel that their passing is a given.
this got me a little confused. i thought the point was being raised against students who pay for their training?
in case it is just typo error and the point being made is about rich kids not being diligent students, then i will say this is a general educational problem, not a problem limited to MPL training. All schools, colleges, universities, training programs, need to ensure the lazy guys perform well or get kicked out. so this is not exactly a comment against the MPL, but rather a challenge for the school -- make sure no rich bum thinks he is entitled to get the MPL without performing well, just because he paid big bucks!
3. One of the big problems with having the students pay is Alpha has every incentive to pass them no matter what. They will be more motivated on profits than turning out a quality pilot.
Every business ALWAYS has this dilemma: how to make money without sacrificing quality (which costs a lot). Why make a specific item against a specific company? Isn't it a little naive to think the other training companies offering other courses do not have this challenge? I am not from Alpha, but guys, let's be fair here. This is again obviously not an MPL issue.
4. In the end the good pilots that make it through will be tainted because of a few that pass, that shoud not have, and give the school a bad reputation.
Show me a school where this is not an issue.
5. If the airlines were sponsoring and paying the poor performers would be weeded out along the way.
this statement got me thinking, how exactly is this going to be done? and i am thought that it is assuming since the airlines are more concerned with safety, they will exert more diligence in checking the performance of their sponsored cadets. this is actually a good point.
but I will tell you this: airlines are businesses too, right? aren't they affected by the profit motive, too? if we think everybody who is out to make a profit will sacrifice quality, then that affects everyone, not just the schools.
the point i am trying to make is this: we are talking big bucks here. airlines naturally will be wary, as the school and the families should, too.
every would be cadet needs to take a long hard look at his options, and his risks. however we need to be objective and fair, and not muddle the issues any further.
MPL requires lots of money and good training plus a partner airline. i suggest all the cadets check if all three are present and in good quality before taking the plunge. Ask lots of questions. Look at contracts. DO due diligence studies. In other words, BE RESPONSIBLE STUDENTS starting with an honest to goodness risk assessments.
to malirm and emiratesson, good luck! i hope your studies go well.
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BUT I agree with Silver5 and OMDB in one aspect: Air Arabia's presence at the other end of the pipeline should be the critical piece at the moment, as ICAO and the Danish authorities still can't seem to make up their mind on what to do with the Sterling Airlines experience. All the training of the MPL graduates (who have reportedly proven themselves to be very competent FOs) will be wasted if they cannot get conversion of their MPL training to another airline.
If ICAO approves the conversion, then nothing will prevent airlines from picking up MPL cadets at anytime even those they have not sponsored at the start, so ICAO is reluctant at the moment -- they are deathly afraid of kicking their own butts. I personally think it is all just a matter of time before ICAO approves the conversion....
So, Malirm/ Emiratesson, what exactly have Air Arabia offered? Employment for those who pass or pooling only? If info is not for public consumption, could you PM me? thanks and hoping for your indulgence
If ICAO approves the conversion, then nothing will prevent airlines from picking up MPL cadets at anytime even those they have not sponsored at the start, so ICAO is reluctant at the moment -- they are deathly afraid of kicking their own butts. I personally think it is all just a matter of time before ICAO approves the conversion....
So, Malirm/ Emiratesson, what exactly have Air Arabia offered? Employment for those who pass or pooling only? If info is not for public consumption, could you PM me? thanks and hoping for your indulgence
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Hi mountaintop2007
I agree with much of what you've said
But I've got few things to clarify.
Is that me who said so?
But yes..I meant to say this:
Many times I have explained why. MPL is not a standard training..It differs according to the employer.
and yesssss..the issue of conversion is very critical
Guys..there are great PowerPoint presentations that have been constructed by experts in MPL...search them on the inet...or send me PM.
Cheers
I agree with much of what you've said
But I've got few things to clarify.
why would ICAO or the CAA's bother to check who pays the bill???
But yes..I meant to say this:
1. MPL should not be self-sponsored..ever!
and yesssss..the issue of conversion is very critical
Guys..there are great PowerPoint presentations that have been constructed by experts in MPL...search them on the inet...or send me PM.
Cheers
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@ Mt2007
Hi there, thanks for the replies , hope I do well in the MPL...the point is that I have met some people in Alpha Aviation Academy (go through my previous posts), some of the instructors are Air Arabia Captains ! & others are Air Arabia's Staff working on Simulators & Flight Ops, i.e. in addition to being 51% owned by Air Arabia...Air Arabia is also helping in the set up of the Academy & always monitoring the performance of the Academy.
The Academy's building is still opened temopararly at the cargo terminal until the main building opens in 2010...this shows how Air Arabia is in real need of Pilots to open such a program & offer 40 sectors on the A320 in this early stage...by the way, the UAE GCAA has authorised the MPL program & reccommends it, until this moment, I can say everything is going on well, it was planned since early 2007.
About getting the Job, there is NO reason that Air Arabia wouldn't employ you/me or whoever passes the screening at Alpha Aviation Academy then gets trained by Air Arabia's Staff/Simulators & some AAA instructors, I said it before & I'll say it again...the AAA Head of Ground Instructors told me clearly...we don't want to offer a program that doesn't secure you a job, we are offering a program that 'At the end of the day' get you a job on graduation. I am a UAE Expat, so no guarantees for me (Only a Job interview), but emiratesson is a UAE national & he is guaranteed a job in Air Arabia
, hope I do well in the MPL...the point is that I have met some people in Alpha Aviation Academy (go through my previous posts), some of the instructors are Air Arabia Captains ! & others are Air Arabia's Staff working on Simulators & Flight Ops, i.e. in addition to being 51% owned by Air Arabia...Air Arabia is also helping in the set up of the Academy & always monitoring the performance of the Academy. The Academy's building is still opened temopararly at the cargo terminal until the main building opens in 2010...this shows how Air Arabia is in real need of Pilots to open such a program & offer 40 sectors on the A320 in this early stage...by the way, the UAE GCAA has authorised the MPL program & reccommends it, until this moment, I can say everything is going on well, it was planned since early 2007
.About getting the Job, there is NO reason that Air Arabia wouldn't employ you/me or whoever passes the screening at Alpha Aviation Academy then gets trained by Air Arabia's Staff/Simulators & some AAA instructors, I said it before & I'll say it again...the AAA Head of Ground Instructors told me clearly...we don't want to offer a program that doesn't secure you a job, we are offering a program that 'At the end of the day' get you a job on graduation. I am a UAE Expat, so no guarantees for me (Only a Job interview), but emiratesson is a UAE national & he is guaranteed a job in Air Arabia
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heard MPL cadet graduates of Clark Aviation did circuits with their airline and did very well (but need to confirm this, only saying so as no problems seem to have arisen hehe)! 
hmmm.... seems MPL as a training concept is proving itself to be workable. this would be good news for AAA UAE i suppose. happy training/ flying to all!
hmmm.... seems MPL as a training concept is proving itself to be workable. this would be good news for AAA UAE i suppose. happy training/ flying to all!
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Hi All,
Just like to share that 5 Cadets from Clark Aviation did their Base Training yesterday using Cebu Pacific's aircraft A320 at Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (Clark).
Congratulations to those 5 who made it this far!
Just like to share that 5 Cadets from Clark Aviation did their Base Training yesterday using Cebu Pacific's aircraft A320 at Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (Clark).
Congratulations to those 5 who made it this far!
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If any of the MPL Cadets at Clark Av. is reading this Post, I say...Congrats, we all depend on your performance & the MPL's success depends on you too..., let us walk tall.
I will be Joining the MPL at Alpha Aviation Academy (UAE) very soon for the MPL, hope I also help in the rise of the MPL to the Surface!
, let us walk tall.I will be Joining the MPL at Alpha Aviation Academy (UAE) very soon for the MPL, hope I also help in the rise of the MPL to the Surface!
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Someone posted an interesting question which is no more displayed...
Are the MPLs already approuved by the GCAA ? The licensing section of my last update of the CAR is not refering to MPL. Will GCAA issue such licences?
Are the MPLs already approuved by the GCAA ? The licensing section of my last update of the CAR is not refering to MPL. Will GCAA issue such licences?
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The GCAA will issue the MPL license at the end of training & successfully fulfilling the ICAO requirements by each cadet (pass tests & fly required sectors).
As far as I know, the GCAA started researching the MPL with ICAO in 2007 & had recognised it in late 2008, & will start issueing it to those cadets who went for the MPL training with a certified school such as Alpha.
AAA could have started a little earlier, but it waited for the blessings & acceptance from the GCAA, which is a must before offering such a program
As far as I know, the GCAA started researching the MPL with ICAO in 2007 & had recognised it in late 2008, & will start issueing it to those cadets who went for the MPL training with a certified school such as Alpha.
AAA could have started a little earlier, but it waited for the blessings & acceptance from the GCAA, which is a must before offering such a program
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More importantly, the issue should be which airline companies, apart from Air Arabia, approve/recommend the MPL course by Alpha Aviation.
You don't want to get a licence that's recognized by only one company, do you?!
You don't want to get a licence that's recognized by only one company, do you?!
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@ SilveR5
I do know some stuff is going on in alots of Airlines in the Middle-East, where they are all intrested in the MPL & would like to see if it works for real !
I also know that alots of Flight schools in the UAE/Region are researching MPL & how to provide it in the future, I've got some info from pilots & flight instructors in Etihad, Gulf Air...& other A320 Operators (don't know why the A320 though) in the region who are thinking about MPL & researching it with their partner flight schools.
I think that airlines are now looking for High quality airmen with 0 employment costs (tests, interviews, free tickets to HQs & Hotel stay costs for shortlisted applicants) + get some money on the other side (120,000 USD) with no guarantees or ties !!!
Lets Just hope for the best, we are in the real world, nothing can come to you on a plate of gold, you have to risk it...CPL/IR/ME can't help me already even with Type Rating, why not try MPL?
I also know that alots of Flight schools in the UAE/Region are researching MPL & how to provide it in the future, I've got some info from pilots & flight instructors in Etihad, Gulf Air...& other A320 Operators (don't know why the A320 though) in the region who are thinking about MPL & researching it with their partner flight schools.
I think that airlines are now looking for High quality airmen with 0 employment costs (tests, interviews, free tickets to HQs & Hotel stay costs for shortlisted applicants) + get some money on the other side (120,000 USD) with no guarantees or ties !!!
Lets Just hope for the best, we are in the real world, nothing can come to you on a plate of gold, you have to risk it...CPL/IR/ME can't help me already even with Type Rating, why not try MPL?
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I've got some info from pilots & flight instructors in Etihad, Gulf Air...& other A320 Operators (don't know why the A320 though) in the region who are thinking about MPL & researching it with their partner flight schools.
- Didn't those pilots tell you that, if these airlines will ever decide to adopt MPL, each airline has its own scheme and standards for MPL training? Didn't they tell you that your MPL with Air Arabia WILL NOT allow you to work in Etihad or Gulf Air or any other airline unless you do another MPL/fATPL that matches your target airline (because there is no MPL conversion up till now)?
- Didn't they tell you that they will never stop hiring type-rated ATPL pilots, even if their own MPL cadets are ready to fly right here right now??!
- So until their "thinking and researching" is done, going for MPL on your own at this stage means you understand and accept being a tryout cadet!! Believe it or not... They will be happy to know that you want to be so.
& by the way...it's so misleading if you count on pilots and instructors to get you trusted info about such an important matter in big airline companies. This is all about another level of decision makers my friend..!
CPL/IR/ME can't help me already even with Type Rating
Safety comes first, gents!
Cheers
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I think that airlines are now looking for High quality airmen with 0 employment costs
I would like to ask you a question: Would you be fine with your mother receiving surgery from a "MPL" surgeon (0 real life experience/0 cost)?
Airlines are simply looking for the most economic alternatives. This doesn't mean it's airworthy and that wannabees have to take everything. Loads of experienced professional pilots are looking for a job, do you think it's technically logical to train brand new pilots to fly airliners?
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@ SilveR5
Going through your posts made me think twice about my decisions, but still...MPL wins!, Its alright for a Middle-Eastern like me to believe in MPL, as General Aviation in this region is too small, i.e. either stay a student all the time or Fly Jets directly, it is hard to get any flight jobs (extra hours) on light aircrafts in this region, even with flight schools as a flight instructor...If I thought about leaving this country/Region to the US or EU or anywhere else...my chances of employment would get just lower & Lower!, as I said, my probabilities & chances are low in the OLD system, why not try the MPL, money is wasted anyways, but time is gained.
Graduating with an MPL with 12 TOs & Landings will only help me to get into air arabia, but getting the other 40 will release me to the whole market in the region & trust me...MPL will win (I will work in an airline that I can't name at this moment), I didn't believe in MPL for some time at the beginning & was going for a lovely f ATPL training at DAE FA, but changed my mind when I looked at what are my chances of employment with a F ATPL.
SilveR5, I know that you want the best for me & to all the others, I also do care about flying & Flight Training as you do, I have asked some pilots I do know, I asked Flight Ops guys & all sounded positive, but a little dark about the MPL...its NEW, but don't forget that it was set by Pilots, Airlines & ICAO.
Speaking of trusted info, I know these guys from a long time ago & had never faced a problem with their info & expectations!, Airlines will never stop Hiring ATPL-Type rated Pilots as I will be holdong one when I complete the 1500 Flight Hours!, MPL has better Specs against a F-ATPL, I do understand that I don't have any guarantees with Air Arabia, but I do know that Air Arabia has a Pilot shortage at the moment & will have more Pilot shortage by Mid 2010, imagine employing 10 Pilots every 5 weeks!, looking at the Number of MPL cadets (about 16), we will be dissolved into Air Arabia with a matter of few months
Graduating with an MPL with 12 TOs & Landings will only help me to get into air arabia, but getting the other 40 will release me to the whole market in the region & trust me...MPL will win
(I will work in an airline that I can't name at this moment), I didn't believe in MPL for some time at the beginning & was going for a lovely f ATPL training at DAE FA, but changed my mind when I looked at what are my chances of employment with a F ATPL.SilveR5, I know that you want the best for me & to all the others, I also do care about flying & Flight Training as you do, I have asked some pilots I do know, I asked Flight Ops guys & all sounded positive, but a little dark about the MPL...its NEW, but don't forget that it was set by Pilots, Airlines & ICAO.
Speaking of trusted info, I know these guys from a long time ago & had never faced a problem with their info & expectations!, Airlines will never stop Hiring ATPL-Type rated Pilots as I will be holdong one when I complete the 1500 Flight Hours!, MPL has better Specs against a F-ATPL, I do understand that I don't have any guarantees with Air Arabia, but I do know that Air Arabia has a Pilot shortage at the moment & will have more Pilot shortage by Mid 2010, imagine employing 10 Pilots every 5 weeks!, looking at the Number of MPL cadets (about 16), we will be dissolved into Air Arabia with a matter of few months
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@ SFLY
Since you went through surgery & Surgeons, you know that to become a doctor/surgeon is a totally different approach, where experience must be high as compared with flying. In my country, you need to spend 5 years in the Medical College before you even learn about surgery.
I do know & Understand that experience in flying (and any field...honestly) is important, specially when flying an aircraft with complex systems & Turbofan engines, thats why MPL was created...it is called the Multi-Crew Pilots License as I will be trained from day one to fly in an airline environment with my Captain/FO & Other crew + other Airline employees AND passengers, I will get the whole info & experience on operating an airliner from the very first day, it isn't about normal ground classes & Flight Circuits, there is much much more included in Sims & other missions that will be assigned to me as I go through the course, don't forget that I must get some experience on the line to get my MPL issued, here Air Arabias position comes!, there must be a Partner airline to help the Cadets to get their flight experience (they have the choice of employing me or..NOT, but no Musts).
About Airlines are looking for the most economic alternatives part, thats true, but this doesn't mean that they will drop the Quality means, thats why MPL...not F-ATPL, by technical means, Oh Yes, I do believe in training from a Zero to a Hero using todays technologies & teaching techniques, Note that I am not dealing with Gauges & 1991 Segas, I will be dealing with LCDs & 2009 PS3
As everybody says, only time can show you the whole naked truth, lets hope for the best, as I said...its a win/win situation!, watch me doing it here in the UAE & judge me after that
Just sow your last post, I'll call HR tommorrow & ask them about what happened with the ATPL guys who are sending them emails...just kidding, I think there is a season of recieving emails & then a season for replying to the ONLY successful guys, so if you applied 3 months ago & haven't got a reply, they usually call it a Unsuccessful application or so...I think Emails are meant for applying...not for enquiries!, be optemistic, they would recieve a reply one day...
I do know & Understand that experience in flying (and any field...honestly) is important, specially when flying an aircraft with complex systems & Turbofan engines, thats why MPL was created...it is called the Multi-Crew Pilots License as I will be trained from day one to fly in an airline environment with my Captain/FO & Other crew + other Airline employees AND passengers, I will get the whole info & experience on operating an airliner from the very first day, it isn't about normal ground classes & Flight Circuits, there is much much more included in Sims & other missions that will be assigned to me as I go through the course, don't forget that I must get some experience on the line to get my MPL issued, here Air Arabias position comes!, there must be a Partner airline to help the Cadets to get their flight experience (they have the choice of employing me or..NOT, but no Musts).
About Airlines are looking for the most economic alternatives part, thats true, but this doesn't mean that they will drop the Quality means, thats why MPL...not F-ATPL, by technical means, Oh Yes, I do believe in training from a Zero to a Hero
using todays technologies & teaching techniques, Note that I am not dealing with Gauges & 1991 Segas, I will be dealing with LCDs & 2009 PS3 As everybody says, only time can show you the whole naked truth, lets hope for the best, as I said...its a win/win situation!, watch me doing it here in the UAE & judge me after that
Just sow your last post, I'll call HR tommorrow & ask them about what happened with the ATPL guys who are sending them emails...just kidding, I think there is a season of recieving emails & then a season for replying to the ONLY successful guys, so if you applied 3 months ago & haven't got a reply, they usually call it a Unsuccessful application or so...I think Emails are meant for applying...not for enquiries!, be optemistic, they would recieve a reply one day...
Last edited by malirm; 25th Apr 2009 at 21:03.
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Hi again malirm
I do appreciate your understanding of my views on the matter. I have shared the facts that I know, of which many are from key senior persons working for airline companies in the region and from those who are directly invovled in MPL adoption.
So I have nothing left to say except that you should now focus on your mission and do whatever it takes to excell in your training. The qualities in you as a person and your flying skills are your priorities from now on
After all, I wish you success.
peace
I do appreciate your understanding of my views on the matter. I have shared the facts that I know, of which many are from key senior persons working for airline companies in the region and from those who are directly invovled in MPL adoption.
So I have nothing left to say except that you should now focus on your mission and do whatever it takes to excell in your training. The qualities in you as a person and your flying skills are your priorities from now on
After all, I wish you success.
peace