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Superpilot 20th May 2013 16:25

Sooooo looking forward to attend an assessment day with some proper pilots! :ok:

nicob 20th May 2013 16:26

EZY
 
the same for me..:)

flyingcamel 20th May 2013 16:31

Me too!

One rather happy, but perplexed Dash driver. Ca. 3500TT:ok:

Clockwise 20th May 2013 16:34

DTC as well...

6400 TT
5000 jet
3000 cpt

Now lets see whats next...

samca 20th May 2013 17:13

DTC also for me. 2000TT 1000 light jet, Type Rated but no hours on type:D

Let see what next and more important, when...

ND16 20th May 2013 17:16

DTC
 
DTC as well 10000TT Heavy Mil Turboprop, 6300 as CPT.
Congratulations to all the successfull ones.
:D

AcroMax 20th May 2013 17:49

Dtc as well...

6000TT
2000 boeing

ludosky350 20th May 2013 18:02

DTC as well.
2500 hours military police helicopter pilot
I'm really looking foward to having the terms of contract.
Any news about that ?

ATRISGREAT 20th May 2013 18:33

DTC received this afternoon as well

1600 tt, 550 tp hrs

:ok:


Do you know what's next? What type of sim?

Tiempoby 20th May 2013 19:11

DTC for me too.

Been trawling through the other threads for info on this NEC contract. Have seen figures of 33k bandied around for an FO? Possibly a percentage of that?! Possibly a percentage of that and a large contribution for the TR?!!! Please tell me I'm mistaken... It seems like people would be much better of at Jet2 or even God forbid FR, time to command considering, unless there's something I'm missing here [and I truly hope there is]?

I appreciate that for regional and lighter aircraft operators it may well be a different story. Would be nice if someone can throw in the real figures and an idea of sector pay and benefits.

Good luck to everyone.

McMax 20th May 2013 19:33

DTC...
1500h and a few... >1000h on the `bus

congrats to all.

Any ideas how to prepare? Especially for non native english speaker like me?

otto1012 20th May 2013 20:04

DTC me too

4000+ military fast jet

some questions already asked: what about benefits .. in a sort of crystal clear answer for a Non regular of the airline flightcrew world
What about the sim: 737-300 FNPTII?
what kind of stuff during Group exercises?

I didn't even speak about the fact of the non native English...:hmm:
Thanks for answering

eaglesnest1972 20th May 2013 20:29

Tienpoby i am afraid its like that...
Thats why my fellow ezy capt told he was glad i got PFO.
Anyway good luck to all.
Even if conditions are those, i wish i was in your shoes.
Need a job.

Fair_Weather_Flyer 20th May 2013 21:09

DTC....nice to have passed but still very sceptical. I think that the deal will be a bad one. I do suspect that they still think that they are interviewing starry eyed kids willing to do anything to fly an Airbus. I always was a cynic and have mostly been proved right.

Guy of Gisborne 20th May 2013 21:09

Don't take this as gospel but, it's normal EJ pay but a 75% contract on offer - 100% summer 50% winter. Permanent employment at 75% of 44k for FO.
Plus you also get the sector pay. As for the TR, I've no idea how they expect that to be funded. Could be self funded or perhaps deducted from salary.

proda 20th May 2013 21:14

DTC... :)
2500 TT
2200 turboprop

airbuske 20th May 2013 21:17

DTC, indeed, before we get ourselves hotel nights, airline tickets and off days it might be good to know what kind of salary, cost of TR, etc is offered. Paying 30k-40k for a TR and 3k gross a month might not be worth the trouble.:ugh:

f27m50 20th May 2013 21:26

DTC as well... wonder how many ppl got a dtc?

AvroRider 21st May 2013 01:01

DTC since this afternoon.

4000h TT
3500h Multi-crew jet
700h on type.

Congrats the all the others with the good news ! Keep in mind : team play is the key !

ragamuffin 21st May 2013 04:14

dtc
 
8500
4000 B737
4000 turboprop
Surprised to receive dtc
The hand/eye/maths test a piece of cake, the verbal reasoning impossible
Good luck

WhyByFlier 21st May 2013 09:49

SSTR (i.e. non cadet recruitment) was always approx. 25K for the TR paid for by the candidate - no salary sacrifice. I will nigh on guarantee EZY wont bond you for the TR - they will expect you to pay for it. EZS is just about to or has become a TRTO so it may well be done through them. There I believe it is 30000 CHFs or about £20000.

Guy of Gisborne 21st May 2013 10:30

If it's £20,000 for a type rating I'm out. If they deduct from salary I might be in. It'll be interesting to see what's on offer

wind check 21st May 2013 10:40

Oh oh oh! Guy of gisborn what a threat!!!

If you are out some behind will be in, and easyjet will always have cadets and type rated park aviation applicants, so dont worry to much, they won't be sad if you don't join.

Welcome to the new aviation world.

All about money, that's the key word to success.

WhyByFlier 21st May 2013 10:45

Then you're out. It'll probably be £25k and if they do a bond/ salary sacrifice I will fall through my ar$e. Consider the opportunity cost for you here. I wouldn't recommend writing it off so impulsively. I have flown with ex Tornado instructors with 1000s of hours instructing who had to pay ezy for the TR.

sk8erboi 21st May 2013 11:00

[QUOTE]I have flown with ex Tornado instructors with 1000s of hours instructing who had to pay ezy for the TR./QUOTE]

And your point is?

Guy of Gisborne 21st May 2013 11:14

Wind check, I've been in aviation for 16 years, I understand how the aviation industry works. Your petty, childish reaction to my statement (I think you need to clarify the definition of threat) is laughable. Yes of course if I don't accept the terms offered (if I'm successful) easy will look to the next candidate from this round of applications. Remember this recruitment drive is to fill a void of experience missing in the current system (easy TRE's words not mine) so parc CTC is not naturally the next point of call.

WhyByFlyer, I know guys like that too who joined easy 5 years ago however, it's still not clear what will be on offer. 25k is a lot of money and I won't be able to get it together any time this year.

flieng 21st May 2013 11:34

Shame on them
 
Its almost unbelievable some of the conversations about the possible terms and conditions with this outfit almost akin to shady deals done with second hand car salesman or loan sharks. The full t and c,s should be fully transparent fair and equitable, i.e they pay for the training(a bond) and pay a market rate for the job and pay toward a pension. It would appear that Monarch will still do this and treat our profession with the respect it deserves. I really think one would have to desperate to work for this Company, if its all smoke and mirrors from the outset what will be like once you,re in?

wind check 21st May 2013 12:01

C'mon guy of gisborne, this recruitment is open to 1500 tt with 500 multicrew experience that can be reached on a king air. Do you call it experience?

There are plenty of qatar, emirates, wizzair crews available with a real experience, easyjet is :mad: you. They just want some guys willing to pay for a type rating, remember THIS WAS PART OF THE REQUIERMENTS to apply.

Yes Monarch offers better terms, and so what?

Easyjet is a low cost airlines that is following the Ryanair way.

RHINO 21st May 2013 12:03

Yes it would be really helpful if someone has the T and C's that Easy are offering with this recruitment.

EdnaClouds 21st May 2013 12:42

wind check, as mentioned before on here, the wording was be prepared.

That still isn't to say you will have to.

Panther1984 21st May 2013 12:49

Does anyone have any constructive information about the next stage with reference to interview/group exercise etc. Any heads up information or helpful direction would be much appreciated.

WhyByFlier 21st May 2013 13:17


And your point is?
I believe Guy of Gisborne is ex military. If they could do it perhaps he could put pride behind him and do the same.

Ultimately my point was, with the greatest of respect, do what you like - everyone else will.

EasyJet will expect you to pay for the type rating. If you aren't expecting that you may wish to work on your SA a little.

wind check 21st May 2013 13:18

Please only apply if you have the following minimum requirements:

· ATPL (Frozen)
· Minimum 1500 TT Hours
· Minimum 500 hrs. 5700kgs Multi-Crew & Turbine experience
· Right to Live and Work in Europe
· Airline environment experience
· UK EASA license (or converted by start date)
· Class 1 unrestricted medical
· Willing to self-sponsor type rating

On completion and submission of your application, we will contact you outlining the next steps of the process as soon as possible.

Next steps involve the completion of online tests and a personality profile, followed by invitation to an assessment centre and sim assessment for successful applicants.

Fair_Weather_Flyer 21st May 2013 13:25

Just play along with them for now, go to the interview and see what is offered. If you make it through, you will end up in a holdpool and for some unknown period of time. If and when they call you again, you can always say. "thanks but what you are asking from me is not viable." Maybe five people have already told them that in the previous hour. That is when they will have a rethink. If they don't change their mind, at least you will have had the option, done the right thing and got some interview sim experience if BA call.

Look at Jet2. Offering a combination of dodgy deals, good deals and everything in between. If enough people turn them down they will up the deal. It's a bit like haggling for double glazing. If you want it bad, prepare to be shafted! If you are prepared to walk away.....who knows?

RAFAT 21st May 2013 13:27


They just want some guys willing to pay for a type rating, remember THIS WAS PART OF THE REQUIREMENTS (corrected) to apply.
Yes it was fairly clear from the outset that it was a self-funded rating, exactly why I wouldn't consider applying to EZY, and didn't.

Piloto2011 21st May 2013 14:08

Frankly I find it hard to believe that some of the high hour guys in the run will accept having to pay for the rating when most of them are already earning a decent salary elsewhere. Let alone giving up their command.

So let's spin this a little further.

eJ have eventually completed the process of filtering out their 100 preferred candidates, a laborious task costing the company a fair bit of money. Mind you, those 100 the ones meant to increase the level of experience. Some time later those 100 people eventually receive the long-awaited call to start training.

I understand a highly unlikely scenario, but what if all of those 100 (and perhaps also the additional 20 eJ have screened on top of the 100 to safeguard against losing people seeking other opportunities in the meantime) suddenly cool off and one by one is turning them down when being asked to pay for the rating?

flyer19832007 21st May 2013 14:29

Found this, not sure if anyone has already posted it. It is for CTC Flexi crew,
if it's going to be this expensive (depending on whether Ez cover anything) I doubt (would think those in Employment already and not in a huge rush to join Ez unless the terms are half decent) would be turning it down.

It is out of date, but I cant find anything more recent.....

http://www.ctcaviation.com/pdfs/Self...ting_Apr11.pdf

wind check 21st May 2013 14:31

easyJet is a business.

Ryanair do not need experience crews and will never pay for a type rating, unless you are an experienced captain joining on the LHS. This system WORKS.

Same in Wizzair, same in Vueling, same everywhere.

Nowdays, if you want to have an A320 type rating or a B737NG type rating I am affraid you will have to pay for it. If you don't then hundred of other people will, and that's it. Gold old days are over.

All the rest is :mad:.

vinscaf 21st May 2013 15:07

...
 
Any idea on how many guys are going for stage 2???

flyer19832007 21st May 2013 15:08


If you don't then hundred of other people will, and that's it.
I am under no illusion that this will not be the case. I am merely stating that most (not all) experienced folk will most likely go through the entire process, assess the offer and conditions before making an informed decision as to whether to take the job or not.

Yes the application criteria states,


· Willing to self-sponsor type rating
however, it does not state... YOU MUST TAKE THE JOB. Many wont, unless you are inexperienced (In the Airline world) and looking for your first Job....or moving from a TP operator to fly an orange Jet.

I think it is a fair point to say that judging by previous posts, there is a mixed bag of people successful at this stage, and I am sure that for those this offer suits, will take it, while others will most likely be happy where they are.


I divulge, back on topic......anyone with any insight into the next steps, please step forward. Any insight appreciated so we can find out what the ACTUAL Ts and Cs are ;-)

Good luck to all in moving forward in the process.


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