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T&Cs of the job should be the NEC which was agreed earlier this year.
Highlighted earlier on in this thread I think. if it's going to be this expensive (depending on whether Ez cover anything) I doubt (would think those in Employment already and not in a huge rush to join Ez unless the terms are half decent) would be turning it down. |
You are a dreamer.
Lots of people will think it is a pretty good deal to pay around 20k for an A320 type rating with a 2 years contract behind (1500+ ontype), and with a possibility to get a permanent job afterward. Once again, if the deal was so good they would then advertise for very experienced pilots, with thousands of hours on Airbus family. Not very difficult to find at the moment. I am sorry but 1500 hours total with 500 hours multi crew on a 5.7 T aircraft is not what we would call " an experienced profile". Man, you applied for a self sponsor type rating scheme, but you don't want to open your eyes. |
Lots of people will think it is a pretty good deal to pay around 20k for an A320 type rating with a 2 years contract behind (1500+ ontype), and with a possibility to get a permanent job afterward. A secure permanent job at that. Once again, if the deal was so good they would then advertise for very experienced pilots, with thousands of hours on Airbus family. Not very difficult to find at the moment. I am sorry but 1500 hours total with 500 hours multi crew on a 5.7 T aircraft is not what we would call " an experienced profile" No but they are looking at a mixed bag of profiles from low hours to many. Don't forget they have done 'very experienced' recruiting previous were a lot of the guys jumped into the LHS after six months. Maybe this profile is based on that experience and the need for more 'mouldable' characters. For those wanting T&C information, here is a post earlier in the thread... There are two different 'recruitment' drives going on - this external one and the getting flexi crews who are eligible to sign up to permanent contracts (which has been on going for European contracts for many years). The external drive is to balance up the experience levels within the company and has also been talked about in conduction with the internal changes. The permanent contract is not a 2 year contract, but a permanent permeant position.. however a flexi crew would would have to complete 2 years as flexi crew prior to be eligible for the perm position and complete 1250 easyjet factored hours. The contract is subject to a 10% performance bonus, pension, shares, sick pay, leave, transfers, commuting + staff travel etc as all the other 'traditional' permanent positions are and which flexi crew do not get to enjoy previously. The lower pay is mostly because it is a part time offering with three options: 75% contract (100 in summer, 50 in winter) 100% FRV roster contract and 90% pay, 100% work 5453 roster The later two are bidable and the percentage is taken from the 'traditional' permanent first officer pay scales available on PPJN. There are also many European contracts available in France, Germany, Lisbon and Italy which again are all a bit different. For example a SFOs basic in France is around 80k and in Germany around 65k plus sectors / shift allowances etc. As the company doesn't run on seniority, you will be able to go onto a waiting list for another base (or indeed the command once you've completed the minimum required sims) and get your place on the effectively first come, first serve system, which I imagine would be most interesting for you if you're coming from a command elsewhere. Hope that gives an insight and may adjust your allusions slightly, and to show you that whilst this New Entrant Contract does have different pay scales, it is very very different from the Flexi crew deals. (The NEC is what is presumed to be offered.. ) |
How many OFF days during 50% winter period (on a 75% contract) may be expected?
If a have an european contract (French, Germany...) where do I have to pay taxes? Any idea for which bases they will recruit? |
Full time summer, 2 weeks on 2 weeksoff in the winter (November to March I believe) on a random roster.
If your recruited on the New entrant contract I think it is only applicable to the UK bases. If you get anywhere other than Gatwick will be surprising. |
Chaps - nobody knows what the deal is going to be, and most certainly no one on here. I understand why some people are getting into a frenzy, but there is almost no one on this thread who knows anything about easyJet and even less who know anything about likely contracts. Sit back and wait is my advice - it will all become clear in the fullness of time.
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Alexander, you're absolutely right!
But as already stated by someone in here, some are employed right know and we just are trying to check if it is worth it to spend time for the selection... That most infos are rumours should be beyond question.. |
A scheme for TR funding, similar to the TRSS scheme which finished up 5 years ago might be considered depending on the rest of the package.
I will not be paying hard cash up front for a TR. However, if this is the road easy decides to go down, I'm sure I will derive useful experience from the assessment center and possible sim assessment with the hope of perhaps a future BA, MON, Aer Lingus, Cargolux, DHL, Jet2, Fly Dubai, Qatar, Cathay, Dragonair etc etc assessment. 4000 > 20T TP, 1600 Command. |
DTC too +6000 hrs 5000 on bus 320 .
Really want to know which kind of sim or interview for the next step. |
To answer previous questions, I wouldn't expect much recruitment into European bases directly as most of them have a waiting list at the moment.
However, depending on your contract, you can usually go on the waiting list after 6 months and then it is based on first come first serve. McMax, due to new European laws, you will have to pay Social Security in the country of your base. Tax is then dependant on where you are "ordinarily resident". If you were to have a German contract, I believe it is a contractual requirement to become resident there and thus would have to pay all taxes there anyway. |
EcamSurprise, thanks for your answer!!
UTADC10, I'm with you! Some details would be helpful... |
Anyone know what the sim instructors will be looking for from the non TR'd guys?
I'm not talking specifics (like take off from 13 at Edinburgh followed by engine failure at V1 etc), I'm thinking more of: - general high level of ability (instrument scan etc) - response to instruction given - knowledge of A320- or as much as can be expected from someone who doesn't have an A320 TR. Oh... in case you haven't guessed, it's a DTC for me too. 3500h, mostly light and med TP. LHS and RHS. |
From speaking to colleagues who have passed stage 1 of the selection, it seems to be the case that most (none infact) have the price of a TR in their bank accounts. Here's hoping for a bond, because anything else will have many heading back to their current employer.
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very good point! 95/100 of my colleagues who are DTC do not have the cash sitting in their bank accounts either. Running to get a new loan on top of the existing one, mmm? Easyjet better comes out with all info before the surprise that their candidates don t have the cash upfront. But hey, maybe still enough people?
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When EZY stated at the outset:
Please only apply if you have the following minimum requirements: With one of those requirements being: Willing to self-sponsor type rating. I think they made it perfectly clear what the arrangement is. Now whether that takes the form of a monthly deduction from salary or full payment in advance is not yet known, but you will be paying for your own rating. |
It's a SST not a bond, so you need to pay the cash upfront before stating the training.
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Could SST take the form of a salary deduction? That's still, in essence, a form of self-sponsorship.
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I think that with that phraseology, it's pretty unambiguous about what the requirement will be.
"here's a job offer, now give us £25K for your rating". It's not going to be for everyone. |
When EZY stated at the outset: Please only apply if you have the following minimum requirements: With one of those requirements being: Willing to self-sponsor type rating. I think they made it perfectly clear what the arrangement is. Now whether that takes the form of a monthly deduction from salary or full payment in advance is not yet known, but you will be paying for your own rating. So, Willing (yes), Able (yes), Going to (thats all depends) |
You never know and I would suggest not putting this opportunity down before you know facts.
On a internal side of things, easy is currently looking for cabin crew who are already qualified (which we have quite a few) and will offer them a flying job and a part sponsored TR. Think it will set the CCers back by 6k only, so you really never know what they will come up with. |
guys guys guys you all seem really cool but can we please stop speculating about the T&C'S? I would advice everybody to prepare well for this screening! good luck to everybody!!!
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CCers
easy is currently looking for cabin crew who are already qualified (which we have quite a few) and will offer them a flying job and a part sponsored TR. Think it will set the CCers back by 6k only, so you really never know what they will come up with Why would any self respecting CCM pay 6K to be demoted into the RHS, presumably with a pay cut:confused: |
Demoted from Cc to RHS??? Strange comment...
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Everyone knows its really the SCCM who's 2ic ;)
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Demoted from Cc to RHS??? Strange comment... Sorry for the thread drift:uhoh: Best of luck to all those going for Easy (not me):ok::ok: |
Exactly, the application said "willing" it didn't ask whether we had the funds!!
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I'm absolutely certain that EasyJet recruitment are reading this thread, and to this end I wouldn't be surprised if in the next couple of weeks everyone who has a DTC will get a further email saying something like:
"Your selection day will be held at [blahblahblah]. Please make sure you bring your licence, medical, logbook and proof of your ability to self-fund a type rating. Such proof may be a bank statement or a letter from your bank stating that your application for a loan will be approved." |
Anyone else still waiting for any response from easy?
I'm yet to receive pfo or dtc....perhaps they are preparing a simple fo for me! 6000tt. 3500 airbus rhs. |
Mona Lot. You naughty girl (or boy) stop winding our new colleagues up!:=
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I am still waiting for an answer too...
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Anyone knows when It would start the next stage?,
Cheers;) |
I'm still waiting for an answer and starting to consider giving them a call.
OED and oly wood, did you receive any response since you posted on the 25th? 3300tt, 2900 DHC8 |
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Moskito7, I'm also waiting. Not had any reply after the assessment yet
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Thanks for the email address, elvisvegas.
Everybody I know that had applied already got an answer, that's why I thought maybe I should check in and ask. But the whole process has been scheduled quite in advance and they still have plenty of time to sort out who's in or out. So I guess I'll wait a bit more to email them. ;) |
Just for statistic: DTC, answer received the 6th of May. Ex military, age 49, 9000+ hrs, 4000+ hrs command on Boeing and MD 80, just rated on the Bus with few hours flown as PIC, applied as NTR. Actually close to start a job in far east on the Bus. Ciao.
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McBruce: I think the RBI example was stupid. It explained the basics of the RBI and the beacon and how the needle points to the beacon blah blah blah... Then you done the example and applied instrument theory and the example was wrong |
Eaglesnest1972:So, military with huge TT and civilian with huge TT and other rating left home...I am curious now about knowing who is actually going forward... |
Sorry, but the example wasn't wrong at all: it is simply how it works, because NDB doesn't have radials and it simply shows always the sation bearing, regardless of the magnetic bearing of the gyro. I think most people who didn't get it maybe haven't used an RBI before and probably only used an RMI??? The difference being an RBI will always show you heading north i.e. north at the top whichever direction you are actually flying (unless you turn it to match the heading which wasn't an option on the test) Whereas an RMI will rotate to show the aircrafts actual heading and thus make it a'lot easier to workout your bearing to/from an NDB |
Interesting article in the Balpa log about the new entrant contract. Looks like, for an initio pilots, a year flexi, a year second officer on £38k (no mention of variable pay), 2 years fo, then Sfo. This seems to be a slight change to what had been mentioned on this thread previously. Has the direct entry nec changed also?
Still no news after my DTC. |
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