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crash_test_dummy 15th May 2013 19:47

PFOed too. 5500 tt, just about 1000 jet command.

EZY... it's really, really your loss! believe me! ;)

arkangel2 15th May 2013 20:02

PFO :ugh:
5700 TT 2500 medium jet command

Fox_one 15th May 2013 20:04

PFO club member too. 1800TT, 1500 medium jet, white, medium build, right handed. I'm not one for conspiracy theories and wish all those still in with a chance the best of luck!

Icarus1981 15th May 2013 20:21

Bloody hell!!!
 
It all seems simple to me guys; they got enough TR guys to not worry about non-TR. From all the PFOs listed so far I think one had limited Airbus experience, the rest haven't. I am ex-mil (UK) and now Boeing rated and me and my very similar friend got PFO. I doubt it's anything other than they cast their net wide and caught enough TR guys to not worry about us.
The paranoia and arrogance of some people to imagine some of the situations suggested here is remarkable!!!

Artic Monkey 15th May 2013 20:47

PFO - 4200hrs - 3400 on the Q400

speedrestriction 15th May 2013 21:13

No PFO yet. Non Tr, 4,500TT, mix of TP and RJ, 1500 PIC.

Sheikh The Lettuce 15th May 2013 21:29

It's a mixed bag I think. Not enough evidence to say they have a specific level of experience in mind. I have 5000 hrs TP 3300 PIC. I know 15 others with various experience from min required to 7500 TT who ain't heard anything yet either.

Bad luck to those who didn't get through but with the numbers EJ are dealing with I guess they had to be brutal.

Falcondriver9 15th May 2013 22:09

PFO
 
2500 hrs 1300 hrs medium jets.
Got the PFO as well:ugh::zzz:

Did take it kinda badly when I got the email. But when I see the exp level on others in here, can't really take it too bad as it doesn't seems performance based but rather agenda based. Kinda funny we didn't meet the "benchmark" this time around but they really want you to reapply:rolleyes:

transitionlevel 15th May 2013 22:41

Nothing received from them today. 3500hrs non-tr, mostly medium jet time. I'm sure they'll get round to sending my pfo tomorrow.

mikehammer 16th May 2013 05:12

Yup. PFO. Ditto comments re exciting first paragraph of the email. 2900 TT 2000 turbo prop RHS only.

Good luck to those with no news yet, sounds promising.

Squealing Pig 16th May 2013 08:53

another PFO
 
7500TT 5500TP 3500P1

eaglesnest1972 16th May 2013 08:59

Guys,
i had a chat with an ezy captain.
He said he's not surpised about my PFO and that he was glad about that.
He said that without being ironic.
At this point its clear to me that there is a precise plan behind this recruitment drive.

Pack my stuff heading east...

Guy of Gisborne 16th May 2013 09:54

Out of interest, did any PFOs have a recommend from current easy captain?

SpamCanDriver 16th May 2013 10:10

I had a PFO with a recommendation :ugh:

6000hrs 737/757/767/777

And know a couple of others on the recommend a friend scheme who didn't make it either. In fact I don't know anyone who made it :ooh:

Fact of the matter is we don't know why we didn't pass so I don't know if there is some secret agenda???

But if it was 2500 people that did the online tests, they can be extremely brutal in the culling of people!

hobnobanyone 16th May 2013 10:22

I had a recommendation too. Still told to PFO!

killerswitch 16th May 2013 10:26

Did anyone get PFO'd recently, or would it be safe to say that all PFO's are in?

airbuske 16th May 2013 10:38

no PFO yet - I guess it is a matter of time


in the last minute about easy jet - is this what they plan?

twogoodstarts 16th May 2013 10:45

PFO this morning .....SFO 757/767. 2500 hrs long-haul, with the recommend a friend EZY (Capt) box ticked.

Shame! It wasn't like this circa 2005 ish

Breakthesilence 16th May 2013 11:13

PFO to me as well.

almost 5000 TT, SFO 4800 on B737. :ugh:

eaglesnest1972 16th May 2013 11:36

Reccomended too from a current ezy captain...
wow, all reccomended, rated and with hours left outside the door...
:p life is good...

ReallyAnnoyed 16th May 2013 11:53

As a normal line captain in EZY, I can say that I don't know diddly squat about the profile the company wants in this recruitment drive, but perhaps the trainers know more. And as I mentioned earlier in this thread, with 3,500 applicants for possibly 200 positions, more than ninety percent will be rejected. So, relax with the conspiracy theories.

Sheikh The Lettuce 16th May 2013 12:59

I was recommended by an FO and haven't heard anything.

Did anyone get binned at the CV/App stage? I'm willing to bet they didn't look at CVs etc until they got our test results in. There was an opportunity to sell yourself too in the 'other information' box. Perhaps some who passed the tests didn't have a very well presented CV etc etc.

Who knows! No conspiracy though, that's for sure, why would they waste time? And money????

What Now 16th May 2013 13:43

3000 Hrs TT 1000 Fast Jet. Recommends from two training captains and two other captains.

GTF

Hey Ho means I don't have to agonise over whether to pay for the type rating or not.

superdash 16th May 2013 13:52

This profession is a joke isn't it?!

Iakovos 16th May 2013 15:22

Another pfo.
 
2500 hours turboprop.

Recommended by SFO.

Thought the tests went incredibly well. Sign of the times I believe. So many applicants for few jobs!

A very polite, please :mad: off! :(

WhyByFlier 16th May 2013 15:41

A few unqualified observation or points.

- A high level of hours/ previous command won't necessarily be of interest to easyJet. Contrary to popular belief, easyJet isn't low on experience. It isn't. It is maturing as a company with much reduced expansion. There are plenty of people with 3000 + EasyJet Airbus hours waiting. Don't forget, the fleet is something like 218 aircraft - from a crew point of view it takes a lot for dilution. I'd also recommend reading the Roland Berger report if you can get a copy - it was an ambition to extend time to command. What's my point? The only way of selection is - do you have enough hours to apply? Then, how did you perform in the tests? Then how do you perform at interview? 6000 hours, several useless type ratings, previous military experience, training qualifications, a friend in the company or a need won't unfortunately likely make any difference at this stage. (Later on at interview it might). The experience isn't needed because easyJet is a mature, experienced and very safe airline.

- It was mentioned earlier that many current easyJet pilots wouldn't pass the tests. You're probably right. But they passed at the time. The same is true for the likes of BA - I know of two pilots who flew for BA who went long term sick, lost medical and had to leave the company. One at easy (captain) and one at Jet2. Both very nice chaps with several types on their licence at BA. They had to reapply to BA when they finally won their medicals back. They both subsequently failed the selection.

If it was down to me I'd do it the Monarch way - first come, first serve - recommendations help, friendly interview about you, the company and why you want to be there. I suppose HR cretins don't have too tight a grip there or are selected to be a certain way.

ATRISGREAT 16th May 2013 16:25

1600 hours
Just 550 hours TP when i applied.

I found the tests pretty weird but I did them with the help of 2 friends at home, one of them is a TRE for a major EU airline.

Still no news.

Love_joy 16th May 2013 16:47

Like many others, I threw my name in the hat and have been left disappointed. The tests even went ok, with nothing obvious sticking in my mind.

Best to be philosophical, they had to draw the line somewhere. I'm just on the wrong side of it.

1000 Jet, 3000 TP, CRMI

transitionlevel 16th May 2013 17:12

Are pfo's still being sent out today?

Yorkshire-Pud 16th May 2013 17:28


I found the tests pretty weird but I did them with the help of 2 friends at home, one of them is a TRE for a major EU airline.
You might have to leave them at home if you get an interview ;)

What Now 16th May 2013 19:22

I found the tests pretty weird but I did them with the help of 2 friends at home, one of them is a TRE for a major EU airline.


And that is the main reason that culling based on online tests over which the airline has no real control is a flawed selection criterion.

McBruce 16th May 2013 20:12

Totally agree WN. I do hope EZY employ the usual tactic of re-testing at EZY HQ. Happened to me previously with an assessment for a flying job. A big variation between two sets of data tells a story.

Guy of Gisborne 16th May 2013 20:39

Whybyflyer, I disagree. According to a current easy captain, the workload for captains has increased due to the inexperience of the majority of FOs. It is also going to cause a huge whole in experience levels within the company. This is the reason for the recruitment of non TR'd guys and girls. Yes there are a lot of experienced pilots being told to PFO but, with over 3000 applicants that is unavoidable. I'm sure there are just as many low houred pilots getting PFOs too.

Artic Monkey 16th May 2013 20:55

There shouldn't be any "low houred" pilots in the system to get the PFO. The minimum requirement was 1500hrs. Yes it's not massively experienced but it's more so than the usual 150hr chaps

Superpilot 16th May 2013 21:13

Pretty sure it was 1,000.

Boeing 77W 16th May 2013 21:17

1000hrs TT for guys with a TR and Ex-Military, 1500hrs TT for Non TR

Piloto2011 17th May 2013 04:55

Purely speculative so I stand to be corrected.

What is the average age and experience in the left hand seat in eJ? I would hazard a guess, 25-35 with 3,000-5,000 hours?

If so, the reason for so many with high hours being rejected might be an unwanted reversed cockpit gradient. Cannot imagine their training to want that. Having heard of people here with high hours and not being PFO'ed is leading me to think they may have too much experience but indeed perfectly match eJ's desired profile.

What they want is the perfect team player that just gels in. The higher a pilot's experience the less likely they, especially when previously flown as PIC but now in new, old role as FO again, will follow their skipper's decision making. Let's face it, there have been numerous events with crew stumbling over CRM issues and this may well be a concern for safety. Just remember a few months ago in a UK airline where two highly experienced crew (one of which with mil background) ended up arguing, resulting in both of their dismissal.

Last but not least, I am sure eJ are fully aware of many guys having thrown in their CV to only see what may come out of it... ;)

Dct_Mopas 17th May 2013 06:51

From my experience its more like 35 - 50 and 5000hrs +

Wee Weasley Welshman 17th May 2013 07:00

I'd guess mid 40's and 10,000hrs. I can think of at least on colleague who got his first command on the new Argosy..

Fair_Weather_Flyer 17th May 2013 07:18

I have not heard anything yet, but expect a PFO is on it's way. As for the conspiracy theories about avoiding more experienced candidates, I very much doubt it. Having 10000hrs of wide body command isn't going to help you with these computer tests. It's a way they believe that they can measure raw ability. Big hours does not guarantee big talent. I've taken tests like this and passed and failed them. It's smoke and mirrors as to how they are scored.

I suspect that EZY are after the usual stuff, rounded team players with commercial awareness and command potential over the medium run. Where I think this recruitment drive will get interesting is when the job offers are made. EZY, in the last five years have only recruited naive 200hr kids and guys down on their luck. I think that they believe that every pilot that has applied is desperate to work for them and can recruit who they want on whatever awful terms and conditions they decide. The lack of detailed info on T&S, from my experience points to a rubbish deal.

EZY, have always been a slightly dodgy employer and seem to have struggled with recruitment and retention in the past. Why get worked up about these tests?


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