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Old 29th Jul 2022, 14:07
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The new recruits will be mainly FO’s as a lot of internal promotions. Currently Airbus TRI and Apprentice interviews running with some rated, current FO’s. Order of interviews to my knowledge at the moment is DEC Airbus TRI, Rated FO, Apprentice, NTR FO, DEC. Majority FO’s so number of DEC rated and NTR will be small. Total required at moment around 200 but could change. Over 7000 applications.
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Old 30th Jul 2022, 10:36
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Originally Posted by Vokes55
On what planet do you have to live to believe that having next to no union recognition is better than having a strong union?

Delusional.
100 percent. It is pathetic.
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Old 30th Jul 2022, 16:33
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Originally Posted by Lazydogg
100 percent. It is pathetic.

That’s an opinion.

Personally I know people who hate BALPA and I know people who love them. I know people who have been helped enormously, and people who have been shafted.

My personal opinion is that unions in general are actually quite toothless, and peoples expectations of them are far in excess of what in reality a union can deliver.

The problem at Jet2 is that there are 2 employee bodies negotiating for the pilot work force. One that the company engages with and one that they don’t. I think when/if the body that the company engages with stops producing results that benefit the pilot workforce BALPA may become more important.

Overall I have been a BALPA member for over 25 years. I have paid an awful lot of money to them. With hindsight I’m not sure I have received value for money.
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Old 30th Jul 2022, 18:06
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Originally Posted by Lazydogg
100 percent. It is pathetic.
So is paying for your own uniform, car park pass, sim time, line training, hotac, transport etc..

So is wanting to do 900 hours a year, living out of a suitcase in a different hotel each night, or spending days away from your family whilst shoving a delta pay cut (despite the excellently strong union?!) up your behind all because you want to say you work for a certain airline.

Alternatively the circa 500 hours I do a year for an airline in rude financial health, working 3-4 days a week makes my 8%+ pay rise this year, profit share bonus, share options, 140k/Yr salary and the next 5 weekends off having saved thousands in Balpa fees seem somehow...worth it.

Each to their own though, I don't begrudge you for putting up with any of the above and if being a Ryanair trainer or telling people you're a BA pilot is enough for you to put up with it then good for you. If you're happy then so am I.
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Old 30th Jul 2022, 18:17
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I don’t think you’ll find many of us at BA standing up for working at that place these days.
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Old 30th Jul 2022, 18:26
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I was a BALPA member at previous outfit. Never again.
When I needed help personally they were pretty useless.
For the amount you pay it’s a joke Union. Outside of aviation I have worked at places with unions and without. I would say at places where unions are strong have been slightly better.

BALPA laughing all the way to the bank from BA membership. If BA had amazing T+Cs similar to say Air France then ok it would be worth every penny. They don’t.
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Old 30th Jul 2022, 18:57
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Originally Posted by Chesty Morgan

Alternatively the circa 500 hours I do a year for an airline in rude financial health, working 3-4 days a week makes my 8%+ pay rise this year, profit share bonus, share options, 140k/Yr salary and the next 5 weekends off having saved thousands in Balpa fees seem somehow...worth it.
Funny how it’s only Jet2 pilots that feel the need to shout about their T&Cs and tell everyone how great their lives supposedly are. I believe “inferiority complex” is the polite term here.

Not sure what “rude financial health” means either, but Jet2’s latest financial report was pretty dire and they’re certainly the most exposed airline to potential fuel price increases, recession and inflation.


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Old 30th Jul 2022, 22:07
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3 or 4 working day week? You must be on the 757.

I don’t know anyone on the 737 who isn’t finding it pretty relentless at the moment! Wasn’t it just posted about Jet2 management refusing to acknowledge the fatigue concerns? Crew I heard on the crew bus the other day sounded pretty wrecked on day 6!

Jet2 is a good outfit no doubt about it and is probably is one of the better gigs for SH in the U.K. right now.

My opinion on BALPA, depends really which airline I suppose. I know some in BA hate them, in the land of orange they have been excellent, especially the past 3yrs they have excelled. I had an issue many years ago and they dealt with it promptly.
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Old 31st Jul 2022, 01:13
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Originally Posted by Whitemonk Returns
There isn't a Jet2 pilot feeling inferior to any other UK airline these days, but whatever helps you sleep at night.
That’s exactly how it should be, no pilot should feel inferior in any airline.
But there is one jet2 pilot that acts superior to any other pilot right now….. I expect your complex is a need for self gratification,but whatever helps you get off at night
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Old 31st Jul 2022, 04:13
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Originally Posted by Vokes55
Funny how it’s only Jet2 pilots that feel the need to shout about their T&Cs and tell everyone how great their lives supposedly are. I believe “inferiority complex” is the polite term here.

Not sure what “rude financial health” means either, but Jet2’s latest financial report was pretty dire and they’re certainly the most exposed airline to potential fuel price increases, recession and inflation.
Funny how it's only you and a handful of other usual suspects who keep saying that.

I wonder why you don't like to hear that other pilots are perfectly happy?!
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Old 31st Jul 2022, 04:15
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Originally Posted by Stone Cold II
3 or 4 working day week? You must be on the 757.

Jet2 is a good outfit no doubt about it and is probably is one of the better gigs for SH in the U.K. right now.
I don't think the 757 works that hard.

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Old 31st Jul 2022, 07:11
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Originally Posted by Vokes55
Funny how it’s only Jet2 pilots that feel the need to shout about their T&Cs and tell everyone how great their lives supposedly are. I believe “inferiority complex” is the polite term here.

Not sure what “rude financial health” means either, but Jet2’s latest financial report was pretty dire and they’re certainly the most exposed airline to potential fuel price increases, recession and inflation.
Sometimes it’s done just to wind you up.
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Old 1st Aug 2022, 07:14
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Originally Posted by Chesty Morgan
So is paying for your own uniform, car park pass, sim time, line training, hotac, transport etc..

So is wanting to do 900 hours a year, living out of a suitcase in a different hotel each night, or spending days away from your family whilst shoving a delta pay cut (despite the excellently strong union?!) up your behind all because you want to say you work for a certain airline.

Alternatively the circa 500 hours I do a year for an airline in rude financial health, working 3-4 days a week makes my 8%+ pay rise this year, profit share bonus, share options, 140k/Yr salary and the next 5 weekends off having saved thousands in Balpa fees seem somehow...worth it.

Each to their own though, I don't begrudge you for putting up with any of the above and if being a Ryanair trainer or telling people you're a BA pilot is enough for you to put up with it then good for you. If you're happy then so am I.
I don't work any weekends (every other Friday off), 152k/Yr. Glad you are happy for me. I am too. More than willing to put up with it.
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Old 1st Aug 2022, 07:22
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Thread Creep

The title of this thread is “jet2 hold pool.”

if you want you can go and create another thread called “jobs that are better than jet2” elsewhere. 😉
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Old 1st Aug 2022, 08:23
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I don't work any weekends (every other Friday off), 152k/Yr. Glad you are happy for me. I am too. More than willing to put up with it.
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Total 2019: 570
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Happy enough to take a 10%+ pay cut. Good for you 👍
Did your union sort that out for you?
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Old 1st Aug 2022, 09:25
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No. All my own choosing - I took on less responsibility (more family time) and therefore less money. And yet still- a better roster and a better salary than you.
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Old 1st Aug 2022, 10:26
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Originally Posted by Lazydogg
No. All my own choosing - I took on less responsibility (more family time) and therefore less money. And yet still- a better roster and a better salary than you.
But who has the biggest todger? 😂😂
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Old 1st Aug 2022, 10:34
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No. All my own choosing - I took on less responsibility (more family time) and therefore less money. And yet still- a better roster and a better salary than you.
🤣🤣 yep you can state that as an absolute fact having seen my roster and income 🙄
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But who has the biggest todger? 😂😂
It's definitely him. You can see it right on his forehead.
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Old 1st Aug 2022, 11:36
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Originally Posted by Chesty Morgan
🤣🤣 yep you can state that as an absolute fact having seen my roster and income 🙄
No but I can be fairly sure of it based on your previous post, where you wrote about your salary and how many weekends you have off in a row. I merely responded to it.
What a clown.....

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