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Old 1st Aug 2022, 12:48
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As this thread is supposed to be about Jet2 recruitment letís be honest, as a J2 captain on the 737 if you work 4 days a week they will invariably be Friday to Monday, although itís possible to get most weekends off in the winter by creative use of requested days off and breaking your leave up. And if youíre a bog standard line captain after the latest pay rise youíll earn at best £130k gross and probably a bit less, youíll need to be a fairly senior trainer to be on £160kÖ. Thatís what it is, if it means you can live in Newcastle or Leeds and have a cheaper house thatís fine, but donít pretend itís something it isnít. Iím happy to earn less than some other companies because I donít want to do four sector days with 35 minute turn arounds. But if you work less you earn a bit less, thatís how the world usually works.
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Old 1st Aug 2022, 15:12
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Originally Posted by YosserHughes
Any rated Captains had a call for assessment yet?
nope, application hasn't been past 1st stage yet. I think they are inundated with applications. Lucky enough to have a few recommendations so fingers crossed it will move forward.
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Old 1st Aug 2022, 17:15
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Originally Posted by Lazydogg
No
Exactly.

Anyway you go and enjoy your job and let us be happy in ours.
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Old 1st Aug 2022, 19:04
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Originally Posted by Chesty Morgan
So is paying for your own uniform, car park pass, sim time, line training, hotac, transport etc..

So is wanting to do 900 hours a year, living out of a suitcase in a different hotel each night, or spending days away from your family whilst shoving a delta pay cut (despite the excellently strong union?!) up your behind all because you want to say you work for a certain airline.

Alternatively the circa 500 hours I do a year for an airline in rude financial health, working 3-4 days a week makes my 8%+ pay rise this year, profit share bonus, share options, 140k/Yr salary and the next 5 weekends off having saved thousands in Balpa fees seem somehow...worth it.

Each to their own though, I don't begrudge you for putting up with any of the above and if being a Ryanair trainer or telling people you're a BA pilot is enough for you to put up with it then good for you. If you're happy then so am I.
Yes. Here is EXACTLY what you wrote.
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Old 1st Aug 2022, 19:51
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Originally Posted by Lazydogg
Yes. Here is EXACTLY what you wrote.
Income isn't the same as salary.

How's my roster looking?

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Old 1st Aug 2022, 20:08
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Wow definitely had the popcorn out reading this.

I will throw some more wood on the fire.

Have you added in teas/coffees full uniform costs etc etc.

I got a mate at BA 787 12 years in as FO and pre COVID most of his trips were Mon-Fri. Occasional weekend and is on around £130k.
EK FOs on £10k a month if you take the housing allowance as standard. Thatís around £200k salary in UK.

Honestly you guys thereís not much in it. Both your salaries are pretty good.
Everyoneís circumstances are different. Whatís horrible for one might be luxury to others.

Letís get back to Jet2 now.

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Old 1st Aug 2022, 21:44
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Was going to say your friend was telling you serious porky pies to get anywhere near that after 13 years if heís on 34PP scale, but then remembered .. the old 24 pay point scale .
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Old 1st Aug 2022, 22:47
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Was going to say your friend was telling you serious porky pies to get anywhere near that after 13 years if heís on 34PP scale, but then remembered .. the old 24 pay point scale .
pp12 FO and earning £130k Must be doing a fair bit of overtime.
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Old 2nd Aug 2022, 04:57
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No he told me his take home most months is £6k. He might be on 24 scale actually I havenít asked. This was pre covid around 2018.

I believe him when I have seen my best mates pay slips. His first year at BA 777 he didnít earn less that £4500 every month with 2 months over £6k due to overtime. Made redundant unfortunately.
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Old 2nd Aug 2022, 08:53
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Originally Posted by Chesty Morgan
Income isn't the same as salary.

How's my roster looking?
You have the next 5 weekends off which would imply that you don't have the sixth. I'll be thinking of you when I'm watching Football Focus.
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Old 2nd Aug 2022, 10:03
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Originally Posted by Lazydogg
You have the next 5 weekends off which would imply that you don't have the sixth. I'll be thinking of you when I'm watching Football Focus.
Well that might be what you infer but certainly not what I imply. Besides weekends are overrated, busy and generally full of people so in fact I'd prefer to not have weekends off.

Have a gander at your crystal ball and check my roster inbetween weekends will you?

And perhaps being a football fan might go some way to explaining your lack of comprehension.
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Please guys! back on topic!!
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Old 2nd Aug 2022, 12:24
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Originally Posted by Chesty Morgan
Well that might be what you infer but certainly not what I imply. Besides weekends are overrated, busy and generally full of people so in fact I'd prefer to not have weekends off.

Have a gander at your crystal ball and check my roster inbetween weekends will you?

And perhaps being a football fan might go some way to explaining your lack of comprehension.
​​​​​​Well ....we got there in the end. Perhaps weekends are only overrated for people that don't have much of a social life and maybe thats why you "prefer" to not have them off . I can assure you I don't lack any comprehension, I just responded to what you wrote. I also comprehended your brainless generalisation about football fans which sums up your idiotic rationale. It was also brainless for you to INFER that I'm a Football fan. I just enjoy watching a variety of sports with my kids, and Football happens to be one of them. Are you able to comprehend that? or is all getting a bit too much for you Chesty?

Anyway Jet2 : I know between 60-80 guys and girls there ranging from Captains, FOs DBPMs, BPMs, LTCs and TRIs ranging from mainly ex RYR and some BABY, Norwegian and Flydubai. The reactions are always mixed. Some being happy to be at the regional base of their choosing to others incessantly complaining about the brutal rosters in the summer and others in close proximity to LBA, endlessly being put in the sim as bodies. A lot also complain that the 3 RDOs are simply not enough to maintain an acceptable home and social life.
The majority of those 60-80 people I have trained from Cadet to Command/Training Captains and Jet2 are damn lucky to have them on their books. It's not for me due to the fact that they could never offer me the Renumeration/Work life balance and job security that I currently enjoy, but thats not to say it isn't for everyone. I hope people find that a balanced observation including Mr/Mrs bang His/Her Chesty the resident Jet 2 Ape.

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Old 2nd Aug 2022, 13:03
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Much better than your original "100% it's pathetic" post.

Well done.
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Old 2nd Aug 2022, 13:34
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Iíve never heard a bunch of people so insecure. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤣

I have a week off every month and only work 12 days and have zero issues getting the days off I want. I wouldnít trade that to work for anyone else.

Stop comparing dick sizes!
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Old 2nd Aug 2022, 15:56
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Originally Posted by Lazydogg
You have the next 5 weekends off which would imply that you don't have the sixth. I'll be thinking of you when I'm watching Football Focus.
Lazydogg If you look through Chesty Morgan's 1000+ posts you'll see a trend - all responsible facts and info. Not always pro Jet 2 just giving readers facts so they could make educated decisions. Your coming across as a bit of a wayne kerr.
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To summarise, scheduled airlines give you a better roster and consequently you suffer micro management as the screws are turned in the name of efficiency. Charter airline management tend to be a little more understanding and respect one's efforts more as they pore over the fatigue reports.

Jet2 seem to be doing a good job.
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Old 3rd Aug 2022, 00:35
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Originally Posted by Twiglet1
Lazydogg If you look through Chesty Morgan's 1000+ posts you'll see a trend - all responsible facts and info. Not always pro Jet 2 just giving readers facts so they could make educated decisions. Your coming across as a bit of a wayne kerr.
takes a Wayne Kerr to call a wayne Kerr.!
Funny how a little twig calls a tre.
prize wayne Kerr.
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Old 3rd Aug 2022, 00:45
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Originally Posted by speed13ird
To summarise, scheduled airlines give you a better roster and consequently you suffer micro management as the screws are turned in the name of efficiency. Charter airline management tend to be a little more understanding and respect one's efforts more as they pore over the fatigue reports.

Jet2 seem to be doing a good job.
quick question. Where do you get your weed.
At what point in your summaries do charter and schedule flyingÖ..respect oneís efforts as they pore over fatigue reports.!
If you feel knackered now Adays. You call, file, and ask for down time.
Oneís efforts to continue on regards are ohhhhh so held in such high esteem. What what.
on time performance. Do it. All in the best possible taste!
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Originally Posted by speed13ird
To summarise, scheduled airlines give you a better roster and consequently you suffer micro management as the screws are turned in the name of efficiency. Charter airline management tend to be a little more understanding and respect one's efforts more as they pore over the fatigue reports.

Jet2 seem to be doing a good job.
Thatís a load of baloney.

It depends on the airline. I was talking with a RYR Fo few days ago and he said he got given 2 weeks off (not taken out of his leave allowance) because he had called fatigued and rolling roster was showing close to 900 hrs.
My previous scheduled outfit when I was in a similar situation they just said have an extra 2 days off.
From my experience charters are worse and if you donít like it move on!!! ďWe can find someone else.Ē
I have worked at random roster and now fixed days off and for me fixed days off is much better. Having seen J2 rosters they look savage through summer, and to me a bit boring, ALC 5-7 days in a row. Ok J2 get more time off in winter, for me I would rather work through winter. Itís cold and nothing to do except sit at home waiting maybe to get called. Boring.

Some people will love that.
Each to there own.

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