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If you want to come on a professional pilots message board and suggest that Ryan air are better than Jet2 because their staff are on zero hour contracts I’m afraid I have no interest in your opinion, however enormous your salary might be. Whatever your job is it’s a pity you’re not also on a zero hour contract. They shouldn’t exist, in Aviation or any other business.
You need to read my post. Firstly I never said FR were better than Jet2. Maybe you need to reach a level of English comprehension before throwing out stupid insinuating posts.
I cannot reason as to why you hurl insults at a member, as you say a forum for Professional Pilots. You need to question yourself as to why you would be on this forum, clearly your post suggests otherwise.
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Well I could not agree more, I have had quite a few people in the SIM for refresher or help with an upcoming assessment. All are back in work so things certainly are looking up.
Not Jet2's or any UK airlines fault, but we have yet to see the true fall out over Brexit when EASA validation period ends in December. Could be interesting for the UK industry as a whole.
I am sure people are desperate to get away, the security guard at the building where I have my office, Glen would dearly love to get away with his wife and 2 children, but to Greece this year 2 weeks is £5k plus for anywhere nice, they are used to paying a 'few grand' but now its just too much. There are plenty like him
Not Jet2's or any UK airlines fault, but we have yet to see the true fall out over Brexit when EASA validation period ends in December. Could be interesting for the UK industry as a whole.
I am sure people are desperate to get away, the security guard at the building where I have my office, Glen would dearly love to get away with his wife and 2 children, but to Greece this year 2 weeks is £5k plus for anywhere nice, they are used to paying a 'few grand' but now its just too much. There are plenty like him
And to the person talking about seeing posts on LinkedIn about new joiners already starting, they all are either the 90 or so ex TCX pilots who were let go during the pandemic coming back, or the pilot apprentice course that was canned at the same time. External recruitment starts in June.
Anyway its all a moot point if the airports don't get their act together and start getting in security staff and passenger assistance none of us will be flying anywhere!
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The days of the average family going away for a two week summer holiday are over, I earn over 100k and I cant afford it. But you are incorrect in thinking it will stop people going away, people will shorten the trip to 7 or 9 days instead of 14.
And to the person talking about seeing posts on LinkedIn about new joiners already starting, they all are either the 90 or so ex TCX pilots who were let go during the pandemic coming back, or the pilot apprentice course that was canned at the same time. External recruitment starts in June.
Anyway its all a moot point if the airports don't get their act together and start getting in security staff and passenger assistance none of us will be flying anywhere!
And to the person talking about seeing posts on LinkedIn about new joiners already starting, they all are either the 90 or so ex TCX pilots who were let go during the pandemic coming back, or the pilot apprentice course that was canned at the same time. External recruitment starts in June.
Anyway its all a moot point if the airports don't get their act together and start getting in security staff and passenger assistance none of us will be flying anywhere!
Really!!! My Mrs possible earns around same as you so you taking home £6-7k a month? plus what your other half earns and you can’t go away for 2 weeks!!!
Obviously everyone priorities are different. I drive an old banger but we love our holidays and experiences. Just have to be savvy. Went to UAE for 8 days recently and spent under £4K all in. Flights were £990 for 2 adults 1 child 1 baby. Direct flights as well with the AD carrier. It was actually my Mrs boss who found flights for us. A guy who had a 7 figure bonus last year is more savvy than me.
Had car hire stayed in 4/5 star places and ate out every evening. We like to move around when away so drove to DXB went to WB, Ferrari world etc.
Ok I admit we often go away with no accommodation booked, we like to have options in case the first place is rubbish.
Your point on airports though yes it’s a complete disaster. I know a guy who is in security at MAN said it’s the worst year ever and we haven’t even hit summer peak yet!!!
It doesn’t take much for passengers to kick off at the best of times. Add this in to the mix and it’s going to be delays/diversions etc etc more added costs.
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Actually it was around £3.5k. Hotels still around same as what we paid now. Obviously it’s a million degrees in UAE so not an ideal time to go. Looked up a couple of Jet2 package deals to Turkey and I can get them cheaper but use J2 for the flights only.
Slight thread drift.
Airport queues/ flight cancellations all over the news this morning. TUI/BA/Easy being main culprits. Oh dear.
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https://jet2careers.com/search-caree...0the%20Airport
NTR FOs & Captains
B757 TR FOs & Captains
A321 TR FOs & Captains
B737 TR FOs & Captains
NTR FOs & Captains
B757 TR FOs & Captains
A321 TR FOs & Captains
B737 TR FOs & Captains
What is a typical roster pattern like for Jet2 and more specifically the Airbus, is the Airbus likely to be based in BRS?
Currently at another Airbus operator in the South West but PT, would be interested in what they have to offer to compare.
Currently at another Airbus operator in the South West but PT, would be interested in what they have to offer to compare.
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Typical roster, there isn’t one at the moment. B757 is only based at MAN. Airbus will initially be based at MAN and after that there are no “published” plans. Salary is the same as everyone else as there are no increments for years served. Pilot apprentice pay I’m unsure of😳 Good luck everyone😁
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I'll try and answer a few of the above.
Spain bases have been killed by Brexit unfortunately, most of the crews have moved to BRS I believe.
A320 at BRS? Not anytime soon, they will go to MAN and BHX first.
757 will always be at MAN and all 8 are staying for summer 23 hence the recruitment.
Random roster, ex RYR people tend to hate that part but I would hate their roster so it's horses for courses.
Leave system is great, between AL and RDOs you get over 70 days you can pick off, weekends in the summer are a bum fight but I find them pretty good at not rostering me every weekend. I have two on and two off in July, seems fair enough to me but people will always complain. The 9 day restriction in summer is a pain but if you add on your RDOs you can get a 14 day stretch if your in the top bid group. I like that after initial bidding windows it is instant, push of a button yes or no, no annoying emails. They gave us an extra 5 days this year on top too.
Sector pay is between 35 and 45 a sector plus duty pay of 2 something an hour. Captain basic is 115k plus profit share again from next year, probably 125k not including profit share for about 500 hours a year, not footballer money but for a few months of hard work and 7 or 8 months of fairly chilled out rosters it's OK. Pension 10%.
FO sector pay is about half of a Captain, SFOs are on about 85k not including profit share.
Company will hire both NTR and TR regardless of the number of TR applications, it's just what they do, they like the mix. One thing I will say is that if you will have a head start if you know someone internally, there is process for internal recommendations and nearly every FD I know will have recommended someone to be screened first.
Spain bases have been killed by Brexit unfortunately, most of the crews have moved to BRS I believe.
A320 at BRS? Not anytime soon, they will go to MAN and BHX first.
757 will always be at MAN and all 8 are staying for summer 23 hence the recruitment.
Random roster, ex RYR people tend to hate that part but I would hate their roster so it's horses for courses.
Leave system is great, between AL and RDOs you get over 70 days you can pick off, weekends in the summer are a bum fight but I find them pretty good at not rostering me every weekend. I have two on and two off in July, seems fair enough to me but people will always complain. The 9 day restriction in summer is a pain but if you add on your RDOs you can get a 14 day stretch if your in the top bid group. I like that after initial bidding windows it is instant, push of a button yes or no, no annoying emails. They gave us an extra 5 days this year on top too.
Sector pay is between 35 and 45 a sector plus duty pay of 2 something an hour. Captain basic is 115k plus profit share again from next year, probably 125k not including profit share for about 500 hours a year, not footballer money but for a few months of hard work and 7 or 8 months of fairly chilled out rosters it's OK. Pension 10%.
FO sector pay is about half of a Captain, SFOs are on about 85k not including profit share.
Company will hire both NTR and TR regardless of the number of TR applications, it's just what they do, they like the mix. One thing I will say is that if you will have a head start if you know someone internally, there is process for internal recommendations and nearly every FD I know will have recommended someone to be screened first.
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This was doing the rounds of my company WhatsApp chats. No idea on it's accuracy, but got to keep that rumour mill turning somehow. Figures look like they might be the ones prior to the well publicised 4% pay rise when compared to Whitemonk Returns ' numbers.
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I'll try and answer a few of the above.
Leave system is great, between AL and RDOs you get over 70 days you can pick off, weekends in the summer are a bum fight but I find them pretty good at not rostering me every weekend. I have two on and two off in July, seems fair enough to me but people will always complain. The 9 day restriction in summer is a pain but if you add on your RDOs you can get a 14 day stretch if your in the top bid group. I like that after initial bidding windows it is instant, push of a button yes or no, no annoying emails. They gave us an extra 5 days this year on top too.
Company will hire both NTR and TR regardless of the number of TR applications, it's just what they do, they like the mix. One thing I will say is that if you will have a head start if you know someone internally, there is process for internal recommendations and nearly every FD I know will have recommended someone to be screened first.
Leave system is great, between AL and RDOs you get over 70 days you can pick off, weekends in the summer are a bum fight but I find them pretty good at not rostering me every weekend. I have two on and two off in July, seems fair enough to me but people will always complain. The 9 day restriction in summer is a pain but if you add on your RDOs you can get a 14 day stretch if your in the top bid group. I like that after initial bidding windows it is instant, push of a button yes or no, no annoying emails. They gave us an extra 5 days this year on top too.
Company will hire both NTR and TR regardless of the number of TR applications, it's just what they do, they like the mix. One thing I will say is that if you will have a head start if you know someone internally, there is process for internal recommendations and nearly every FD I know will have recommended someone to be screened first.
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From picture in post number 99 do they recruit FO’s direct onto the SFO scale if they have experience?
If not, can a regular FO be promoted to Commander 6 months after final line check once they meet other requirements?
For STN base is there any living in london allowance?
If not, can a regular FO be promoted to Commander 6 months after final line check once they meet other requirements?
For STN base is there any living in london allowance?
From picture in post number 99 do they recruit FO’s direct onto the SFO scale if they have experience?
If not, can a regular FO be promoted to Commander 6 months after final line check once they meet other requirements?
For STN base is there any living in london allowance?
If not, can a regular FO be promoted to Commander 6 months after final line check once they meet other requirements?
For STN base is there any living in london allowance?
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You hate 4 days off every week all through the summer
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