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The new recruits will be mainly FO’s as a lot of internal promotions. Currently Airbus TRI and Apprentice interviews running with some rated, current FO’s. Order of interviews to my knowledge at the moment is DEC Airbus TRI, Rated FO, Apprentice, NTR FO, DEC. Majority FO’s so number of DEC rated and NTR will be small. Total required at moment around 200 but could change. Over 7000 applications.
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From: big green wheely bin
That’s an opinion.
Personally I know people who hate BALPA and I know people who love them. I know people who have been helped enormously, and people who have been shafted.
My personal opinion is that unions in general are actually quite toothless, and peoples expectations of them are far in excess of what in reality a union can deliver.
The problem at Jet2 is that there are 2 employee bodies negotiating for the pilot work force. One that the company engages with and one that they don’t. I think when/if the body that the company engages with stops producing results that benefit the pilot workforce BALPA may become more important.
Overall I have been a BALPA member for over 25 years. I have paid an awful lot of money to them. With hindsight I’m not sure I have received value for money.
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So is paying for your own uniform, car park pass, sim time, line training, hotac, transport etc..
So is wanting to do 900 hours a year, living out of a suitcase in a different hotel each night, or spending days away from your family whilst shoving a delta pay cut (despite the excellently strong union?!) up your behind all because you want to say you work for a certain airline.
Alternatively the circa 500 hours I do a year for an airline in rude financial health, working 3-4 days a week makes my 8%+ pay rise this year, profit share bonus, share options, 140k/Yr salary and the next 5 weekends off having saved thousands in Balpa fees seem somehow...worth it.
Each to their own though, I don't begrudge you for putting up with any of the above and if being a Ryanair trainer or telling people you're a BA pilot is enough for you to put up with it then good for you. If you're happy then so am I.
So is wanting to do 900 hours a year, living out of a suitcase in a different hotel each night, or spending days away from your family whilst shoving a delta pay cut (despite the excellently strong union?!) up your behind all because you want to say you work for a certain airline.
Alternatively the circa 500 hours I do a year for an airline in rude financial health, working 3-4 days a week makes my 8%+ pay rise this year, profit share bonus, share options, 140k/Yr salary and the next 5 weekends off having saved thousands in Balpa fees seem somehow...worth it.
Each to their own though, I don't begrudge you for putting up with any of the above and if being a Ryanair trainer or telling people you're a BA pilot is enough for you to put up with it then good for you. If you're happy then so am I.
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I was a BALPA member at previous outfit. Never again.
When I needed help personally they were pretty useless.
For the amount you pay it’s a joke Union. Outside of aviation I have worked at places with unions and without. I would say at places where unions are strong have been slightly better.
BALPA laughing all the way to the bank from BA membership. If BA had amazing T+Cs similar to say Air France then ok it would be worth every penny. They don’t.
When I needed help personally they were pretty useless.
For the amount you pay it’s a joke Union. Outside of aviation I have worked at places with unions and without. I would say at places where unions are strong have been slightly better.
BALPA laughing all the way to the bank from BA membership. If BA had amazing T+Cs similar to say Air France then ok it would be worth every penny. They don’t.
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Alternatively the circa 500 hours I do a year for an airline in rude financial health, working 3-4 days a week makes my 8%+ pay rise this year, profit share bonus, share options, 140k/Yr salary and the next 5 weekends off having saved thousands in Balpa fees seem somehow...worth it.
Not sure what “rude financial health” means either, but Jet2’s latest financial report was pretty dire and they’re certainly the most exposed airline to potential fuel price increases, recession and inflation.
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3 or 4 working day week? You must be on the 757.
I don’t know anyone on the 737 who isn’t finding it pretty relentless at the moment! Wasn’t it just posted about Jet2 management refusing to acknowledge the fatigue concerns? Crew I heard on the crew bus the other day sounded pretty wrecked on day 6!
Jet2 is a good outfit no doubt about it and is probably is one of the better gigs for SH in the U.K. right now.
My opinion on BALPA, depends really which airline I suppose. I know some in BA hate them, in the land of orange they have been excellent, especially the past 3yrs they have excelled. I had an issue many years ago and they dealt with it promptly.
I don’t know anyone on the 737 who isn’t finding it pretty relentless at the moment! Wasn’t it just posted about Jet2 management refusing to acknowledge the fatigue concerns? Crew I heard on the crew bus the other day sounded pretty wrecked on day 6!
Jet2 is a good outfit no doubt about it and is probably is one of the better gigs for SH in the U.K. right now.
My opinion on BALPA, depends really which airline I suppose. I know some in BA hate them, in the land of orange they have been excellent, especially the past 3yrs they have excelled. I had an issue many years ago and they dealt with it promptly.
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But there is one jet2 pilot that acts superior to any other pilot right now….. I expect your complex is a need for self gratification,but whatever helps you get off at night
white spunk remains
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Funny how it’s only Jet2 pilots that feel the need to shout about their T&Cs and tell everyone how great their lives supposedly are. I believe “inferiority complex” is the polite term here.
Not sure what “rude financial health” means either, but Jet2’s latest financial report was pretty dire and they’re certainly the most exposed airline to potential fuel price increases, recession and inflation.
Not sure what “rude financial health” means either, but Jet2’s latest financial report was pretty dire and they’re certainly the most exposed airline to potential fuel price increases, recession and inflation.
I wonder why you don't like to hear that other pilots are perfectly happy?!
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From: big green wheely bin
Funny how it’s only Jet2 pilots that feel the need to shout about their T&Cs and tell everyone how great their lives supposedly are. I believe “inferiority complex” is the polite term here.
Not sure what “rude financial health” means either, but Jet2’s latest financial report was pretty dire and they’re certainly the most exposed airline to potential fuel price increases, recession and inflation.
Not sure what “rude financial health” means either, but Jet2’s latest financial report was pretty dire and they’re certainly the most exposed airline to potential fuel price increases, recession and inflation.
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So is paying for your own uniform, car park pass, sim time, line training, hotac, transport etc..
So is wanting to do 900 hours a year, living out of a suitcase in a different hotel each night, or spending days away from your family whilst shoving a delta pay cut (despite the excellently strong union?!) up your behind all because you want to say you work for a certain airline.
Alternatively the circa 500 hours I do a year for an airline in rude financial health, working 3-4 days a week makes my 8%+ pay rise this year, profit share bonus, share options, 140k/Yr salary and the next 5 weekends off having saved thousands in Balpa fees seem somehow...worth it.
Each to their own though, I don't begrudge you for putting up with any of the above and if being a Ryanair trainer or telling people you're a BA pilot is enough for you to put up with it then good for you. If you're happy then so am I.
So is wanting to do 900 hours a year, living out of a suitcase in a different hotel each night, or spending days away from your family whilst shoving a delta pay cut (despite the excellently strong union?!) up your behind all because you want to say you work for a certain airline.
Alternatively the circa 500 hours I do a year for an airline in rude financial health, working 3-4 days a week makes my 8%+ pay rise this year, profit share bonus, share options, 140k/Yr salary and the next 5 weekends off having saved thousands in Balpa fees seem somehow...worth it.
Each to their own though, I don't begrudge you for putting up with any of the above and if being a Ryanair trainer or telling people you're a BA pilot is enough for you to put up with it then good for you. If you're happy then so am I.
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From: In your head.
Did your union sort that out for you?
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What a clown.....
Last edited by Lazydogg; 1st August 2022 at 15:39.