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I’ve never heard a bunch of people so insecure. 🤦🏻♂️🤣
I have a week off every month and only work 12 days and have zero issues getting the days off I want. I wouldn’t trade that to work for anyone else.
Stop comparing dick sizes!
I have a week off every month and only work 12 days and have zero issues getting the days off I want. I wouldn’t trade that to work for anyone else.
Stop comparing dick sizes!
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Originally Posted by Lazydogg
You have the next 5 weekends off which would imply that you don't have the sixth. I'll be thinking of you when I'm watching Football Focus.
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To summarise, scheduled airlines give you a better roster and consequently you suffer micro management as the screws are turned in the name of efficiency. Charter airline management tend to be a little more understanding and respect one's efforts more as they pore over the fatigue reports.
Jet2 seem to be doing a good job.
Jet2 seem to be doing a good job.
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Originally Posted by Twiglet1
Lazydogg If you look through Chesty Morgan's 1000+ posts you'll see a trend - all responsible facts and info. Not always pro Jet 2 just giving readers facts so they could make educated decisions. Your coming across as a bit of a wayne kerr.
Funny how a little twig calls a tre.
prize wayne Kerr.
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Originally Posted by speed13ird
To summarise, scheduled airlines give you a better roster and consequently you suffer micro management as the screws are turned in the name of efficiency. Charter airline management tend to be a little more understanding and respect one's efforts more as they pore over the fatigue reports.
Jet2 seem to be doing a good job.
Jet2 seem to be doing a good job.
At what point in your summaries do charter and schedule flying…..respect one’s efforts as they pore over fatigue reports.!
If you feel knackered now Adays. You call, file, and ask for down time.
One’s efforts to continue on regards are ohhhhh so held in such high esteem. What what.
on time performance. Do it. All in the best possible taste!
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Originally Posted by speed13ird
To summarise, scheduled airlines give you a better roster and consequently you suffer micro management as the screws are turned in the name of efficiency. Charter airline management tend to be a little more understanding and respect one's efforts more as they pore over the fatigue reports.
Jet2 seem to be doing a good job.
Jet2 seem to be doing a good job.
It depends on the airline. I was talking with a RYR Fo few days ago and he said he got given 2 weeks off (not taken out of his leave allowance) because he had called fatigued and rolling roster was showing close to 900 hrs.
My previous scheduled outfit when I was in a similar situation they just said have an extra 2 days off.
From my experience charters are worse and if you don’t like it move on!!! “We can find someone else.”
I have worked at random roster and now fixed days off and for me fixed days off is much better. Having seen J2 rosters they look savage through summer, and to me a bit boring, ALC 5-7 days in a row. Ok J2 get more time off in winter, for me I would rather work through winter. It’s cold and nothing to do except sit at home waiting maybe to get called. Boring.
Some people will love that.
Each to there own.
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Originally Posted by midnight cruiser
Best solution if you can; spend the winter somewhere sunny; the key being a very nice optional winter off roster that jet2 used to offer - was it something like three months off for just a 10% reduction in pay or the like? Do they still offer this?
But yes, a winter roster full of standbys - I can't think of anything worse.
But yes, a winter roster full of standbys - I can't think of anything worse.
85% contract variation: 3 months off between Nov and Mar. 85% salary spread over 12 months. Pension contributions based on 100% salary
90% contract variation: 2 months off between Nov and Mar. 90% salary spread over 12 months. Pension contributions based on 100% salary
'Buy one, get one free'. For example, 1 month off between Nov and Mar is given as 2 weeks paid, 2 weeks unpaid. Pension contributions based on 100% salary
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Originally Posted by ToCatLady
The sooner Jet2 ramp up their interviews and selection the better. This thread has turned into a complete embarrassment.
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Originally Posted by AIMINGHIGH123
That’s a load of baloney.
Having seen J2 rosters they look savage through summer, and to me a bit boring, ALC 5-7 days in a row.
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Having seen J2 rosters they look savage through summer, and to me a bit boring, ALC 5-7 days in a row.
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But it really is horses for courses. What floats your boat may not float someone else's boat, so don't come on here saying how much better it is! What suits some people doesn't suit other people - don't try and say it is better or worse - it depends on your lifestyle, your point in life, your family circumstances, and your desire to fly. Never done more than 550 hours a year, some times as low as 320. Very few people in aviation I know get as much time to spend with their kids as I do. Suits me now - yes. Suit me in 10 years? Maybe not.
Now can we can please get back to this being a Jet2 Hold Pool Thread?
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Ok I agree what suits one doesn’t suit someone else but I was stating that ALC route as my mate sent me his roster. Yes it is summer so will be about as worse as it gets but man it looked tough. Comparison to my July. At RYR I had 15 days off in July flew 86 hrs. My mate flew 85 hrs but only 10 days off.
What I think should be mentioned is not flying hours but duty hours.
At my previous TP I regularly flew 75-80 hrs. Short 4 sector days. Duty time average was around 140 a month knocking on 160 a month in summer.
Duty hours in July at RYR 118 hrs. Yes the days can be long but man I feel so much fresher.
I would rather do a 25 min turnaround and get back in the air than sit on the ground in ALC MAH, etc for 40 mins plus.
I haven’t experienced J2 I admit but looking at the rosters for me personally it’s got a few more negatives. Summer not many days off and winter loads off when I would rather it was the other way around or a bit more balanced.
Positives salary/overall package is pretty good.
Part time options for those interested and they are quite open about offering those which is nice.
Not trying to have a dig but give my view. I sat down weighed up pros and cons asked guys/gals I know there.
My mate absolutely loves it at J2 and will probably be there forever even if summer is tough. Another mate of mine hated it and moved on after barely 2 years.
What I think should be mentioned is not flying hours but duty hours.
At my previous TP I regularly flew 75-80 hrs. Short 4 sector days. Duty time average was around 140 a month knocking on 160 a month in summer.
Duty hours in July at RYR 118 hrs. Yes the days can be long but man I feel so much fresher.
I would rather do a 25 min turnaround and get back in the air than sit on the ground in ALC MAH, etc for 40 mins plus.
I haven’t experienced J2 I admit but looking at the rosters for me personally it’s got a few more negatives. Summer not many days off and winter loads off when I would rather it was the other way around or a bit more balanced.
Positives salary/overall package is pretty good.
Part time options for those interested and they are quite open about offering those which is nice.
Not trying to have a dig but give my view. I sat down weighed up pros and cons asked guys/gals I know there.
My mate absolutely loves it at J2 and will probably be there forever even if summer is tough. Another mate of mine hated it and moved on after barely 2 years.
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Originally Posted by AIMINGHIGH123
Ok I agree what suits one doesn’t suit someone else but I was stating that ALC route as my mate sent me his roster. Yes it is summer so will be about as worse as it gets but man it looked tough. Comparison to my July. At RYR I had 15 days off in July flew 86 hrs. My mate flew 85 hrs but only 10 days off.
What I think should be mentioned is not flying hours but duty hours.
At my previous TP I regularly flew 75-80 hrs. Short 4 sector days. Duty time average was around 140 a month knocking on 160 a month in summer.
Duty hours in July at RYR 118 hrs. Yes the days can be long but man I feel so much fresher.
I would rather do a 25 min turnaround and get back in the air than sit on the ground in ALC MAH, etc for 40 mins plus.
I haven’t experienced J2 I admit but looking at the rosters for me personally it’s got a few more negatives. Summer not many days off and winter loads off when I would rather it was the other way around or a bit more balanced.
Positives salary/overall package is pretty good.
Part time options for those interested and they are quite open about offering those which is nice.
Not trying to have a dig but give my view. I sat down weighed up pros and cons asked guys/gals I know there.
My mate absolutely loves it at J2 and will probably be there forever even if summer is tough. Another mate of mine hated it and moved on after barely 2 years.
What I think should be mentioned is not flying hours but duty hours.
At my previous TP I regularly flew 75-80 hrs. Short 4 sector days. Duty time average was around 140 a month knocking on 160 a month in summer.
Duty hours in July at RYR 118 hrs. Yes the days can be long but man I feel so much fresher.
I would rather do a 25 min turnaround and get back in the air than sit on the ground in ALC MAH, etc for 40 mins plus.
I haven’t experienced J2 I admit but looking at the rosters for me personally it’s got a few more negatives. Summer not many days off and winter loads off when I would rather it was the other way around or a bit more balanced.
Positives salary/overall package is pretty good.
Part time options for those interested and they are quite open about offering those which is nice.
Not trying to have a dig but give my view. I sat down weighed up pros and cons asked guys/gals I know there.
My mate absolutely loves it at J2 and will probably be there forever even if summer is tough. Another mate of mine hated it and moved on after barely 2 years.
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Originally Posted by TheFiddler
Brutal / savage, sometimes yes. But 5 -7 days of ALC, never happens. Complete random roster and not normally more than 4/5 in 6 and then 3 days off.
But it really is horses for courses. What floats your boat may not float someone else's boat, so don't come on here saying how much better it is! What suits some people doesn't suit other people - don't try and say it is better or worse - it depends on your lifestyle, your point in life, your family circumstances, and your desire to fly. Never done more than 550 hours a year, some times as low as 320. Very few people in aviation I know get as much time to spend with their kids as I do. Suits me now - yes. Suit me in 10 years? Maybe not.
Now can we can please get back to this being a Jet2 Hold Pool Thread?
But it really is horses for courses. What floats your boat may not float someone else's boat, so don't come on here saying how much better it is! What suits some people doesn't suit other people - don't try and say it is better or worse - it depends on your lifestyle, your point in life, your family circumstances, and your desire to fly. Never done more than 550 hours a year, some times as low as 320. Very few people in aviation I know get as much time to spend with their kids as I do. Suits me now - yes. Suit me in 10 years? Maybe not.
Now can we can please get back to this being a Jet2 Hold Pool Thread?
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Originally Posted by there she blows
quick question. Where do you get your weed.
At what point in your summaries do charter and schedule flying…..respect one’s efforts as they pore over fatigue reports.!
If you feel knackered now Adays. You call, file, and ask for down time.
One’s efforts to continue on regards are ohhhhh so held in such high esteem. What what.
on time performance. Do it. All in the best possible taste!
At what point in your summaries do charter and schedule flying…..respect one’s efforts as they pore over fatigue reports.!
If you feel knackered now Adays. You call, file, and ask for down time.
One’s efforts to continue on regards are ohhhhh so held in such high esteem. What what.
on time performance. Do it. All in the best possible taste!
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No news is (perhaps) good news
To get this thread back on topic.
Attended recruitment session previously. Really positive experience from the start with pretty transparent process. No contract, rejection or hold pool offer just yet but considering the sheer quantity of applicants (plus internal moves) I wouldn't say that is particularly unusual in a 'normal' year, let alone one recovering from a Pandemic. All bets are kinda off the table....
However, given that the intake is being done primarily in preparation for Summer 2023, and, when a candidate starts, the speed of training moves as 'considerable pace' (as described to me by folks who have been through the process), I'd wager it's still early days yet.
For context (and if you have been through the process please feel free to dispute the below) timeline is loosely:
Ground school: 2-3 weeks
Sim: 3-4 weeks
Circuits, Base training, Line Training: 5-6 weeks
So realistically the training segment could span 2.5 to 3 months, without including breaks in the training dept for Christmas If you're working for an airline currently you're probably on a 2-3 month notice period anyhow.
So total of 4.5 to 6 months lead time they may want to issue contracts and then have you fully line ready for the ramp up of the busy period.
If we called that start of the busy period March/April, with the 40 odd line sectors taking place in Jan/Feb/March, then hearing something in Sept/Oct at the very earliest wouldn't be totally unrealistic. And if it was for the peak of summer with the line training taking place in March/April/May then that becomes a call at some point before end of the year.
Maybe.
But again, many factors beyond just quantity of applicants, including desired base, TR or Non-TR.....
Attended recruitment session previously. Really positive experience from the start with pretty transparent process. No contract, rejection or hold pool offer just yet but considering the sheer quantity of applicants (plus internal moves) I wouldn't say that is particularly unusual in a 'normal' year, let alone one recovering from a Pandemic. All bets are kinda off the table....
However, given that the intake is being done primarily in preparation for Summer 2023, and, when a candidate starts, the speed of training moves as 'considerable pace' (as described to me by folks who have been through the process), I'd wager it's still early days yet.
For context (and if you have been through the process please feel free to dispute the below) timeline is loosely:
Ground school: 2-3 weeks
Sim: 3-4 weeks
Circuits, Base training, Line Training: 5-6 weeks
So realistically the training segment could span 2.5 to 3 months, without including breaks in the training dept for Christmas If you're working for an airline currently you're probably on a 2-3 month notice period anyhow.
So total of 4.5 to 6 months lead time they may want to issue contracts and then have you fully line ready for the ramp up of the busy period.
If we called that start of the busy period March/April, with the 40 odd line sectors taking place in Jan/Feb/March, then hearing something in Sept/Oct at the very earliest wouldn't be totally unrealistic. And if it was for the peak of summer with the line training taking place in March/April/May then that becomes a call at some point before end of the year.
Maybe.
But again, many factors beyond just quantity of applicants, including desired base, TR or Non-TR.....
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After a couple of months my application doesn't appear to have even moved to stage 2 yet (TR DEC B737), which is fine, and possibly due to me not yet having a U.K. licence. However, it wouldn’t really hurt for them to at least acknowledge either there has been a huge amount of applications (which there obviously has) that they’re still working their way through, and if they’re prioritising U.K. licence holders. Would be good to have some sort of interim communication from Jet2, or a PFO if that is the case.
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UK Licence
I don't think it will be helping your chances if you don't have a UK Licence. Tough one.
From the Jet2 website:
"Successful candidates will possess a valid UK issued Pilots Licence"
and:
EASA licence holders can immediately begin the process of licence conversion using the CAA channel set up for qualifying Pilots. This process is strictly time limited and new applications will not be considered after 31 December 2022. There is no firm guidance into the process of conversion after 31 December, so we strongly advise beginning this process without delay.
You will qualify for this route of conversion if you are:
From the Jet2 website:
"Successful candidates will possess a valid UK issued Pilots Licence"
and:
Pilot Licences
Jet2.com can only recruit Pilots who hold a UK issued Licence – that is either a full UK ATPL and Medical, or UK CPL (and Medical) with ATPL Exams passed (fATPL). Potential new joiners must therefore hold one of these licences to start an induction course. Whilst we may be able to communicate an intention to offer to non UK licence holders, no formal contract and offer will be provided without a UK licence.EASA licence holders can immediately begin the process of licence conversion using the CAA channel set up for qualifying Pilots. This process is strictly time limited and new applications will not be considered after 31 December 2022. There is no firm guidance into the process of conversion after 31 December, so we strongly advise beginning this process without delay.
You will qualify for this route of conversion if you are:
- An EASA licence holder whose date of initial licence was issued before 31 December 2020
- An EASA licence holder who previously held a UK issued licence (Full UK ATPL and Medical, or UK CPL (and Medical) with ATPL Exams passed (fATPL) before 1 January 2021
- An EASA licence holder who completed the transfer process from the UK before 31 December 2020, but whose EASA licence was issued on or after 1 January 2021
- The UK CAA will not issue a UK Part-FCL licence if you do not hold a UK PART-MED certificate, with your medical records held on the UK records system
- It is vital that you ensure that the AME who issues your UK PART-MED certificate is acceptable to the UK CAA – this particularly applies to AME’s registered outside of the UK
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That doesn't, to me, read that your application will not be processed unless you have a UK license. Rather they just won't make you an offer until you have one, like BA.
