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Old 20th Jul 2023, 12:23
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Good day all,

Seeing as it started as a hold pool thread, I thought I would hop on the trend and post something unrelated and ask if anyone has some indirect feedback/tips for the A321 assessment? Anything to focus on other than the usual and important company info? Sim & Interview next week so any advice very much appreciated!
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Old 20th Jul 2023, 16:23
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Well it's been over 24 hours and nobody has mentioned it so you can tell the Profit Share announcement has been a complete dud. A disasterclass in how to take 3 or 4 years of goodwill and destroy it in a single email, 40% of the pie stolen by management after they spent 6 months running around telling people to expect more than 2 times monthly salary, they left out the part it was only themselves they were talking about. Chaotic rollout, part timers paid more than full timers, CC getting offered 4k then quickly rescinded as not eligible. There has been a nervous energy about the place since big PM stepped down a few weeks ago and now we know why, this is the future. Mass exits this winter would should be expected in all areas of the business, particularly FD and engineering. Shame.
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Old 20th Jul 2023, 16:42
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I'm sure you'll be happier at Emirates.

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Old 20th Jul 2023, 16:58
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This must be a wind-up! What a ridiculous post - and factually incorrect.

Originally Posted by Whitemonk Returns
Well it's been over 24 hours and nobody has mentioned it so you can tell the Profit Share announcement has been a complete dud. A disasterclass in how to take 3 or 4 years of goodwill and destroy it in a single email, 40% of the pie stolen by management after they spent 6 months running around telling people to expect more than 2 times monthly salary, they left out the part it was only themselves they were talking about. Chaotic rollout, part timers paid more than full timers, CC getting offered 4k then quickly rescinded as not eligible. There has been a nervous energy about the place since big PM stepped down a few weeks ago and now we know why, this is the future. Mass exits this winter would should be expected in all areas of the business, particularly FD and engineering. Shame.
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Old 20th Jul 2023, 17:03
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Originally Posted by goaroundnow
This must be a wind-up! What a ridiculous post - and factually incorrect.
Ridiculous maybe, not factually incorrect however
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Old 20th Jul 2023, 17:06
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It is because youíd know only too well that the management bonuses donít come from the same pie and had no bearing whatsoever on the profit-share bonus.

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Ridiculous maybe, not factually incorrect however
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Old 20th Jul 2023, 18:34
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Originally Posted by Whitemonk Returns
Well it's been over 24 hours and nobody has mentioned it so you can tell the Profit Share announcement has been a complete dud. A disasterclass in how to take 3 or 4 years of goodwill and destroy it in a single email, 40% of the pie stolen by management after they spent 6 months running around telling people to expect more than 2 times monthly salary, they left out the part it was only themselves they were talking about. Chaotic rollout, part timers paid more than full timers, CC getting offered 4k then quickly rescinded as not eligible. There has been a nervous energy about the place since big PM stepped down a few weeks ago and now we know why, this is the future. Mass exits this winter would should be expected in all areas of the business, particularly FD and engineering. Shame.
If you're upset at how you've been treated at Jet 2 you're in for a world of hurt should you venture to the sandpit. This type of stuff is just a normal Monday morning for those guys, they've made an artform out of screwing over their employees.
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Old 20th Jul 2023, 19:07
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It's funny how people quickly resort to personal attacks when someone merely points out what an utter shambles its been, its OK to like where you work (for the record I do, and have stuck uo for the company many times on this board) but you should also be honest when things don't go right. And for the posters above who think I am just upset, I'm not, it doesn't actually effect my pocket at the end of the day for separate reasons (apart from maybe the pension), but if you think things are going well or that was a success I suggest speaking to the next CC or Eng you come across and ask them. There are whole lines of ENG for example who have been given leave by their future employers to wait until next week until they resign. Now the other lot who were planning on staying will be dusting off their CVs I would imagine, it was a slap in the face in my opinion for the management to do that to everyone, and the 'oh but they do stuff like that all the time' in other places doesn't hold up when we have had to listen to their One Team nonsense in every other email for years. This was their chance to show us the way forward without PM and they blew it. Last post on it from me
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I'm curious. How exactly did they "blow it"?
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Old 20th Jul 2023, 20:10
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Jet2 gets worse over the years. As the expansion continues the experience gets less. Not only on the ground but worryingly in the flight deck. Lots of bad blood in Manchester, which is the biggest base even before the profit share was announced. Based management not good enough to sort pilot issues out especially in bigger bases. Profit share has been a disaster considered it was whipped from them pre Covid. Sorry chaps, but now meeson has gone this is a red Ryanair.
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Old 20th Jul 2023, 20:21
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Originally Posted by Whitemonk Returns
Well it's been over 24 hours and nobody has mentioned it so you can tell the Profit Share announcement has been a complete dud. A disasterclass in how to take 3 or 4 years of goodwill and destroy it in a single email, 40% of the pie stolen by management after they spent 6 months running around telling people to expect more than 2 times monthly salary, they left out the part it was only themselves they were talking about. Chaotic rollout, part timers paid more than full timers, CC getting offered 4k then quickly rescinded as not eligible. There has been a nervous energy about the place since big PM stepped down a few weeks ago and now we know why, this is the future. Mass exits this winter would should be expected in all areas of the business, particularly FD and engineering. Shame.
wow that was quick! Was interested how it would go after Phillip let go of the reins.

Sadly was always going to happen with the management team now in place and the focus all on the holidays, without union recognition or support the future isnít looking as rosy.


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Old 20th Jul 2023, 20:51
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Originally Posted by Whitemonk Returns
It's funny how people quickly resort to personal attacks when someone merely points out what an utter shambles its been, its OK to like where you work (for the record I do, and have stuck uo for the company many times on this board) but you should also be honest when things don't go right. And for the posters above who think I am just upset, I'm not, it doesn't actually effect my pocket at the end of the day for separate reasons (apart from maybe the pension), but if you think things are going well or that was a success I suggest speaking to the next CC or Eng you come across and ask them. There are whole lines of ENG for example who have been given leave by their future employers to wait until next week until they resign. Now the other lot who were planning on staying will be dusting off their CVs I would imagine, it was a slap in the face in my opinion for the management to do that to everyone, and the 'oh but they do stuff like that all the time' in other places doesn't hold up when we have had to listen to their One Team nonsense in every other email for years. This was their chance to show us the way forward without PM and they blew it. Last post on it from me
Just out of interest, what was the pre-tax figure you were quoted as a Captain?
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Old 20th Jul 2023, 20:55
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Originally Posted by Chesty Morgan
I'm curious. How exactly did they "blow it"?
Well, acknowledging that they've cocked things up for starters. 100% captains are receiving different amounts (only a £3-4 spread, but why the difference?). There are people recently returned from long term sick who are receiving several thousand pounds more. People who have had the same amount of optional leave have been told differing amounts too. It's a shambles. They need to reflect on the company Just Culture - open and honest. At the moment it's comms silence. They need to share their methodology, as if it's been left to the new HR system to calculate, there's no wonder its gone wrong.
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Old 20th Jul 2023, 20:56
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Originally Posted by Mr Good Cat
Just out of interest, what was the pre-tax figure you were quoted as a Captain?
Around £14.7k for Captains and just under £10k for an SFO.
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Old 21st Jul 2023, 07:54
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Originally Posted by Flying Wild
Well, acknowledging that they've cocked things up for starters. 100% captains are receiving different amounts (only a £3-4 spread, but why the difference?). There are people recently returned from long term sick who are receiving several thousand pounds more. People who have had the same amount of optional leave have been told differing amounts too. It's a shambles. They need to reflect on the company Just Culture - open and honest. At the moment it's comms silence. They need to share their methodology, as if it's been left to the new HR system to calculate, there's no wonder its gone wrong.
And how is all.of that caused by PM announcing he is stepping down in the future?!
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You're talking like he's gone already. He hasn't!
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Originally Posted by pug
We know he hasnít yet, but the transition has started.

Still lots to be positive about so donít take my previous comment as a negative, but quite important to try to understand why some in the company might have not taken it too well on this occasion.
Can actually feel the fizzing from the Jet2 die hard elite over these slanderous remarks. 🤣

Meeeeesooon forever ✌🏻
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Old 21st Jul 2023, 16:24
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Originally Posted by Chesty Morgan
You're talking like he's gone already. He hasn't!
Yes, but it doesn't seem like anyone is owning this issue. Lack of transparancy regarding how the sums were arrived at is also an issue.
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Originally Posted by DCT_ELSIR
Any thoughts on the potential for Airbus rated DEC recruitment for S24?
Just bumping this back to the top, would appreciate any insight.
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Originally Posted by DCT_ELSIR
Just bumping this back to the top, would appreciate any insight.

Once the bottleneck in Airbus deliveries reduces, Iíd say thereís excellent potential. 5/9 on recent OCC were direct entry Airbus. Priority given to trainers of course. MAN and BHX are initial Airbus bases.
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