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Old 4th Jul 2023, 21:19
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[QUOTE=Mr Good Cat;11438663]They can't get the Airbus to MAN and BHX as quick as they were planning, so STN unlikely until the deliveries ramp up in 2024. And even then they'll likely want to focus on MAN where they really need the bigger aircraft due to the stand shortage.[/QUOT

Any idea if or what the plan is to put NEOs up north in jockland? Surely it would make sense as EDI/GLA have the longest routes in the network! T
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They can't get the Airbus to MAN and BHX as quick as they were planning, so STN unlikely until the deliveries ramp up in 2024. And even then they'll likely want to focus on MAN where they really need the bigger aircraft due to the stand shortage.[/QUOT

Any idea if or what the plan is to put NEOs up north in jockland? Surely it would make sense as EDI/GLA have the longest routes in the network! T
Now for all its plus points sometimes Jet2 doesn't think things through......I mean you would use your available SFP 737s at the most limiting field in the network (LBA) wouldn't you...........discuss. (Extra marks for showing your working!)
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Now for all its plus points sometimes Jet2 doesn't think things through......I mean you would use your available SFP 737s at the most limiting field in the network (LBA) wouldn't you...........discuss. (Extra marks for showing your working!)
You've done a thorough cost analysis proving the SFP aircraft would generate more revenue out of LBA, than their current bases?

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Old 6th Jul 2023, 08:06
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Would one get marks in their working for correctly identifying there are a handful of destinations served downroute out of all Jet2 bases that also require a healthy contingent of SFP airframes, such as ACE, JSI, JTR etc?...

This seems like more of a discussion for the 'airlines/airports/routes' subforum rather than here though.
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[QUOTE=Toastal;11462004]
Originally Posted by Mr Good Cat
They can't get the Airbus to MAN and BHX as quick as they were planning, so STN unlikely until the deliveries ramp up in 2024. And even then they'll likely want to focus on MAN where they really need the bigger aircraft due to the stand shortage.[/QUOT

Any idea if or what the plan is to put NEOs up north in jockland? Surely it would make sense as EDI/GLA have the longest routes in the network! T
With 146 NEOs likely to be delivered over the next 12 years, they will almost certainly be at every base. In the short term, they'll be at MAN followed by BHX. It wouldn't make sense to have one or two frames at different bases for obvious fleet support reasons. It will happen though, so sit tight.
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Old 6th Jul 2023, 08:24
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[QUOTE=Table For 1;11462538]
Originally Posted by Toastal

Now for all its plus points sometimes Jet2 doesn't think things through......I mean you would use your available SFP 737s at the most limiting field in the network (LBA) wouldn't you...........discuss. (Extra marks for showing your working!)
Can’t show my working, because I used J2s onboard performance tool, but in identical conditions and calm winds Bristol is actually more limiting than Leeds.

However, as shorter routes to the Med, mainland Spain and France don’t need so much fuel the standard wingletted 800s are ok on some routes, so a mix of standard and SFP airframes works, and at Leeds allows rotation of airframes if they need engineering attention.
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What if you don't have a 737/ a320 type but you want to join jet2, can they do a training bond? I don't mind a bond, but I don't feel like doing a type rating without the assurance of a position.
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Everyone gets a training bond at Jet2, TR or NTR.
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Old 9th Jul 2023, 12:10
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Originally Posted by 737 Jockey
Everyone gets a training bond at Jet2, TR or NTR.
Thanks, I've not seen them advertise for ntr yet..
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Originally Posted by Oasis
What if you don't have a 737/ a320 type but you want to join jet2, can they do a training bond? I don't mind a bond, but I don't feel like doing a type rating without the assurance of a position.
You don't need to be rated to join Jet2. However, if you are not rated, and you don't have the relevant hours on medium / large jets then you would require base training, which means you would likely be recruited over the winter season when there are spare airframes to do this.

If your time in HK is on heavy jets, you'll be fine. You'll just be bonded for 3 years for the cost of sim and line training.
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For the Airbus fleet we really need ZFT candidates apparently
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Originally Posted by Mr Good Cat;[url=tel:11464550
11464550[/url]]You don't need to be rated to join Jet2. However, if you are not rated, and you don't have the relevant hours on medium / large jets then you would require base training, which means you would likely be recruited over the winter season when there are spare airframes to do this.

If your time in HK is on heavy jets, you'll be fine. You'll just be bonded for 3 years for the cost of sim and line training.

thank you for that info!
what is time to command at Jet2, at the moment?
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Originally Posted by Oasis
thank you for that info!
what is time to command at Jet2, at the moment?
That would depend on which fleet you are joining. It's currently very quick on both fleets, but the expansion will be all airbus which means the commands will slow down a bit on the Boeing. I think if you plan on about a year on the Airbus (providing you pass the assessments etc) then that would be about right.
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Originally Posted by Jonty
For the Airbus fleet we really need ZFT candidates apparently
So what is happening to everyone who made an application some 18 months ago? The only communication I've had stated that basically they hadn't binned my application.

10500TT, 6000 hrs on A320 5500 command
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Originally Posted by skianyn vannin
So what is happening to everyone who made an application some 18 months ago? The only communication I've had stated that basically they hadn't binned my application.

10500TT, 6000 hrs on A320 5500 command

I have heard that age sometimes comes into place with these guys. Not accusing them just that I have heard rumours.
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Old 10th Jul 2023, 13:24
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Originally Posted by rotorwills
I have heard that age sometimes comes into place with these guys. Not accusing them just that I have heard rumours.
Not sure what you are inferring, however I am currently completing LSTís for 2 new joiners, the FO is 53 and the Captain 55.
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Originally Posted by Johnny F@rt Pants
Not sure what you are inferring, however I am currently completing LSTís for 2 new joiners, the FO is 53 and the Captain 55.
Nice for us to have some pilots who are older than some of the aircraft. 😆😆
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Originally Posted by Johnny F@rt Pants
Not sure what you are inferring, however I am currently completing LSTís for 2 new joiners, the FO is 53 and the Captain 55.

I am not inferring. I am passing on a rumour. After all this is a rumour network. Title!

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Originally Posted by skianyn vannin
So what is happening to everyone who made an application some 18 months ago? The only communication I've had stated that basically they hadn't binned my application.

10500TT, 6000 hrs on A320 5500 command
Don't despair, I put an application in, a similar time ago to you and only had the sim 2 weeks ago. I haven't had the results yet but I'll let you know if I hear any more about things.

The difference between us though, is that I kept with the mob and renewed my rating after 2020's "fun". Have you renewed yours?
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Any thoughts on the potential for Airbus rated DEC recruitment for S24?
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