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BA pilots vote to strike

Old 8th Oct 2019, 07:57
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Originally Posted by Lordflasheart View Post
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And seemingly treating the staff with contempt

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Contempt for staff, customers and fighting it's own pensioners in the high court at great expense as well.
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Old 10th Oct 2019, 21:02
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Has Willy just cut Cruz adrift ?

https://www.theguardian.com/business...ss-pay-dispute

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Old 10th Oct 2019, 21:22
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Bluff and bluster from Walsh. BAís intransigence in the negotiations so far is all because they have been told by IAG that thereís no more money available. Willie is driving this, not Cruz. Cruz is basically already gone, they just wonít announce it during a dispute.
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Old 10th Oct 2019, 21:26
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Originally Posted by Plastic787 View Post
Bluff and bluster from Walsh. BAís intransigence in the negotiations so far is all because they have been told by IAG that thereís no more money available. Willie is driving this, not Cruz. Cruz is basically already gone, they just wonít announce it during a dispute.
Agreed. I'm sure he's already lined up Cruz's replacement from this side of the sea.
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Old 11th Oct 2019, 13:48
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Back at the time of the '69 strike there was a headline in the local newspaper here: The South China Morning Post.

The banner read 'BOAC Pilots to Strike', and then on the right had side in smaller font but still a two line headline; San Miguel opens new Brewery. The stories were separated further down the page but the headline was outstanding. Caused a few chuckles hereabouts.

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Old 12th Oct 2019, 09:55
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Perhaps Cruz and Walsh should read the articles on Hays Travel and reflect on how well the Hays family have done , and how they value and reward their staff.

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Old 29th Oct 2019, 19:54
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So what is the latest ? Its all very quiet and even moved to page two of PPRuNe !!
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Old 29th Oct 2019, 21:37
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So what is the latest ? Its all very quiet and even moved to page two of PPRuNe !!
Reps are playing cards very very close to their chests, are communicating very little to the line community and are asking people not to speculate....so I won't.
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Old 30th Oct 2019, 21:28
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I know nothing other than ACAS has made a proposal and both sides have retired to consider it. Supposedly something Friday. Hopefully we can move forward onto issues which really affect us more.
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Old 31st Oct 2019, 16:55
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Originally Posted by shamrock_f22 View Post
Agreed. I'm sure he's already lined up Cruz's replacement from this side of the sea.
Hardly Mr Rutter?
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Old 1st Nov 2019, 17:11
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BA not prepared to re instate staff travel privileges to those 600 who went on strike until end next year.
unless BALPA resolves this,they will never get people to strike again.Clever move by BA.
wise up BALPA
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Old 1st Nov 2019, 17:51
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Would like to add thatís not actually confirmed as of 16:52 November 1st but yes, thats certainly what it looks like.
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Old 3rd Nov 2019, 17:50
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I respect that people want to keep quiet but from what I gather the old deal is now the one being looked at, with a few minor tweaks. Crucially I’d be very keen to know if the original caveat /blank cheque of “changing business needs” has remained ? As a swimmer, that is probably the thing I’m most concerned about... feel free to pm me
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Old 3rd Nov 2019, 19:14
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Settlement

I do not know the details, but will be very disturbed if management have "beaten pilots into submission."
Pilots are the day to day managers of the operation and can make decisions that can affect the company for the better or not.
If the management does not have the pilots onside then the situation can so easily deteriorate. BA was once a proud company. What do you call it Now?
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Old 3rd Nov 2019, 20:44
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"What do you call it now?"

The world's favourite airline?
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Old 4th Nov 2019, 07:35
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The perception at the moment amongst the crews is BALPA has only been offered the same Settlement as pre strike, with a couple of tweaks of change.
The pilots rostered over the strike days are being hung out to dry, leaving them a considerable financial loss and removal of ST for two years.
If true, seems a poor result after the almost 100% support shown by the crews for BALPA action against Management.

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Old 4th Nov 2019, 08:10
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So BALPA have caved in and thrown the strikers under the train
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Old 4th Nov 2019, 09:53
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Surely the union knows it cannot possibly accept a deal whereby those who went on strike are left out to dry? And surely they know the membership won’t accept that? Worrying, if they don’t...
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Old 4th Nov 2019, 09:57
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Originally Posted by Busdriver01 View Post
Surely the union knows it cannot possibly accept a deal whereby those who went on strike are left out to dry? And surely they know the membership wonít accept that? Worrying, if they donít...
Doesn't surprise me at all and I'm sure you can appretiate how we feel at the moment, especially in light of IAG purchasing Air Europa for Ä1b!
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Old 4th Nov 2019, 11:16
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Sit tight and wait and see surely
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