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Old 4th Oct 2019, 12:14
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Exclamation

the whole works council of Laudamotion has stepped back today as it was the most unfruitful social partnership in Austrian aviation history.

one member of the works council was fired in the same turn by the company.

https://www.austrianaviation.net/det...acjueDru5_hKAQ
(pls use transaltor for english version)
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Old 4th Oct 2019, 21:44
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Originally Posted by Thepirate View Post
tier 2 Ryanair
This.

Local RYR base is getting closed and crew offered a transfer to Polish Ryanair - the flights and capacity to continue undisrupted. The actual arrangement is so poorly done (offered to sign a new contract until a deadline while the said contract does not physically exist) it made the headlines in the regional press.

When I read here that Laudamotion had an actual proper labour agreement (link provided recently) it was a funny feeling. That spot did not match the animal but now we know.
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Old 5th Oct 2019, 10:32
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I don't understand why management thinks that they can keep salaries secret.
It's going to backfire if all Lauda and Buzz request same pay as Ryanair DAC.
What will they do? Open a 6th airline and threatening people out again?
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Old 5th Oct 2019, 13:45
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Originally Posted by Pilotenguy View Post
I don't understand why management thinks that they can keep salaries secret.
It's going to backfire if all Lauda and Buzz request same pay as Ryanair DAC.
What will they do? Open a 6th airline and threatening people out again?
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These salaries are based on 850h/year that at present you wonít fly.

https://ibb.co/5RYYpk9
https://ibb.co/X5q73rY

Apologies for using an image hosting website but I couldnít upload them using the forum.
Feel free to spread the pictures and/or attach them properly. People need to know.
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Old 5th Oct 2019, 15:24
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Originally Posted by Full_blast View Post
These salaries are based on 850h/year that at present you wonít fly.


Apologies for using an image hosting website but I couldnít upload them using the forum.
Feel free to spread the pictures and/or attach them properly. People need to know.
Wait.. Correct if I'm wrong.
Someone at those Ryanair threatened bases will take at least a Ä20k paycut (maybe more) and move to a country with higher tax rate, work more days, less flying hours and at least 3yrs? Ridiculous
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Old 6th Oct 2019, 12:11
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Type Rating

Hey guys,
Anyone staring their Type rating the 18th of November ?
Cheers,

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Old 6th Oct 2019, 16:39
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Hey guys,
Anyone staring their Type rating the 18th of November ?
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I have a TR starting date at 2nd December 2019. I have sent you private message as well.
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Old 9th Oct 2019, 18:46
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Next hot News from Vienna:

Laudamotion has stopped hiring on Laudamotion Contracts and will now exclusively offer temporary contracts through an agency.

The company will also not recognize the newly elected workers council.

https://www.austrianaviation.net/det...flugbegleiter/
(Sorry German again)
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Old 9th Oct 2019, 21:11
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back to the roots.
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Old 10th Oct 2019, 11:00
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What can we do guys... that's the general situation, better times will come
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Old 10th Oct 2019, 14:42
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Bloody disgrace

Perhaps I shouldn't be surprised but I'm shocked nonetheless. A leopard really doesn't change its spots. I hate Ryanair and everything they stand for. I can only advise everyone to stay away from that lot.
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Old 10th Oct 2019, 18:43
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It seems, RYR will use their current setup to bring as many flight crews as they can onto bogus self-employment contracts at one of the new AOCs. With the 737max delivery delays, the way they have to keep their market share, is to grow the A320 fleet - many new hires and upgrades are therefor about to come onto these new contracts at LDM. Once a critical mass is reached, the "old" directly employed people will be allowed to either volunteer for the self-employed contract or leave. If too many dare to be non-compliant, they will just see another AOC of the group take over routes at their base on a wet lease basis with the respective alternate aircraft type, until they are more motivated. A shame, that this is even legal!
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Old 16th Oct 2019, 12:00
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Originally Posted by Oscar748 View Post
Hey guys,
Anyone staring their Type rating the 18th of November ?
Cheers,

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Hi Oscar, I am supposed to start my Type Rating on the 18th of November as well.....do you have any news ?
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Old 16th Oct 2019, 16:58
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Originally Posted by 733driver View Post
Perhaps I shouldn't be surprised but I'm shocked nonetheless. A leopard really doesn't change its spots. I hate Ryanair and everything they stand for. I can only advise everyone to stay away from that lot.
I love all the conspiracy theories on this forum
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Old 16th Oct 2019, 20:11
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Originally Posted by BoeingLudo737 View Post
I love all the conspiracy theories on this forum
What is so conspiracy about this???
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Old 16th Oct 2019, 23:30
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What is so conspiracy about this???
Donít feed the troll, read the post history of BoeingLudo and you will realize there is no point to discuss with him/her.
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Old 17th Oct 2019, 20:44
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I'm starting the type 4/11. Still no specific information, no idea about what's going on
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Old 18th Oct 2019, 08:05
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Originally Posted by dirk85 View Post


Donít feed the troll, read the post history of BoeingLudo and you will realize there is no point to discuss with him/her.
you are so wise
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Old 23rd Oct 2019, 10:50
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For who's starting on 4/11, send a private so we can arrange an accommodation!
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Old 23rd Oct 2019, 11:16
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Hopefully it doesn't rain too hard or the 'Buzz' & 'Laudamotion' might slip off! FR seem to have completely out maneuvered and stayed so far ahead of any unions on this it is crazy. Back to the old days of contractors everywhere working via agencies.

I don't like what FR + others have done but I have to acknowledge how they seem to have run laps around the unions and labor laws. Shameful show by the EU unions! Maybe if they head hunted a few of the strategy staff in FR they might actually get somewhere
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