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Ryanair Cancelling flights!

Old 16th Sep 2017, 18:26
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They make the profit that most Airlines can only dream of and still not enough.

LH, AF/KLM USA companies all make handsome profits and have hugely better T's & C's. Why does anyone think they can reinvent the wheel? True, much good has come out of the LOCo revolution. High priced cartels have been broken; pax have benefitted. The majors have responded and cut their cloth accordingly, but not too much to tarnish their product. Pax & workers knew they were unsustainable. I've mates in various large majors and yes, they do work more hours than they used to, and retire later, but their deals are light years ahead of the LoCo's, they still make good profits and mostly the employees are happy; because they see what is going on on the outside. It was all cosy & rosy now it's a fair days pay for a fair days work and the fringe benefits still remain.
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Old 16th Sep 2017, 19:26
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Difficult to apply any of that to Alex Cruz's work on BA
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Old 16th Sep 2017, 19:47
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It seems that RYR has stopped sending updates about cancellations to the ScoreBuddy website in order to try to stop bad publicity

https://www.cloud.scorebuddy.co.uk/r...ate=2017-09-17
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Old 16th Sep 2017, 20:07
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6 weeks? Sounds like RYR are biting their lips hard till the season is over and won't be needing as many pilots. Their Facebook reviews page has turned out quite interesting..

And that sign up bonus must be coming from the profit made from the cadet TR?
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Old 16th Sep 2017, 20:15
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I believe next week is the AGM, this should prove interesting
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Old 16th Sep 2017, 20:25
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https://www.irishtimes.com/business/...medium=twitter
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Old 16th Sep 2017, 20:58
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It really is a 'spin too far' to try and pin the blame for this fiasco on 'over paid & underworked pilots' (only 18hours/week according to some RYR claims) who are now having to have extra holiday imposed by the IAA & EASA. 'It is out of our control and not our fault.'

Who was it that said, "you should keep quiet and let people thing you are a fool rather than open your mouth.........

How is the training dept staffed up to create enough new cadets & commands before the next wave of a/c arrive? Don't these trainers also need holidays? Indeed, do they have enough sims even?
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Old 16th Sep 2017, 21:12
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Originally Posted by RAT 5 View Post
It really is a 'spin too far' to try and pin the blame for this fiasco on 'over paid & underworked pilots' (only 18hours/week according to some RYR claims) who are now having to have extra holiday imposed by the IAA & EASA. 'It is out of our control and not our fault.'

Who was it that said, "you should keep quiet and let people thing you are a fool rather than open your mouth.........

How is the training dept staffed up to create enough new cadets & commands before the next wave of a/c arrive? Don't these trainers also need holidays? Indeed, do they have enough sims even?
Apparantly the training department is struggling too, allegedly dire need for LTCs but no capacity to SIM them and nobody wants to be an SFI because most never fly and are constantly hounded to work days off and do favours for nothing in return.
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Old 16th Sep 2017, 22:13
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If you still work for Ryanair, time to talk to the press

I'd suggest that anyone who works for Ryanair and also knows the reality of what's going on to cause this contacts one of the many outlets that reported it.
I know they are very keen and your anonymity will be guaranteed.
Telegraph
Sky
Guardian to name a few.

This is the perfect opportunity to shine a light on what is the Ryanair experience.

Best wishes
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Old 16th Sep 2017, 23:16
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Originally Posted by its easy View Post
I'd suggest that anyone who works for Ryanair and also knows the reality of what's going on to cause this contacts one of the many outlets that reported it.
I know they are very keen and your anonymity will be guaranteed.
Telegraph
Sky
Guardian to name a few.

This is the perfect opportunity to shine a light on what is the Ryanair experience.

Best wishes
Agreed 100% above.
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Old 17th Sep 2017, 00:04
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Angry pax now have a facebook group

https://www.facebook.com/groups/130092747727926/
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Old 17th Sep 2017, 01:13
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Justice is served ice cold. I sincerely hope everyone puts a claim in and let this bunch of thieves bleed. Crew leaves for a reason, now it's time to face reality.
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Old 17th Sep 2017, 02:47
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Funny it's mentioned to be 6 weeks - exactely when the winter schedule starts for which less people are needed anyway due to the grounding of airframes. So the actual problem will be disguised as 50-60 airplanes will be on the ground from that moment on...
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Old 17th Sep 2017, 06:19
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Just to clear up the rumours - no one has resigned or walked out, such as crew controllers or the Chief Pilot.

Cock up over annual leave / flight cancellations? Yes.

Wheels falling off wagon / armageddon? No.
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Old 17th Sep 2017, 08:28
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How does the IAA view this situation? RYR are knowingly selling tickets for 100% of their flights while at the same time saying 40-80 i.e. about 2% per day will be cancelled eventually; and that those affected pax overseas will be stranded for an indefinite period. This is not the same as over selling a flight and then being bumped. It is selling a product you can not guarantee to provide.
If a charter flight, which was an out/back with same pax, is cancelled for whatever reason, the host airline would have a rescue a/c en-route ASAP. The same is happening into the Caribbean to rescue pax stranded from schedule flights. Here we have a situation where the pax will be stranded directly as a result of the host airline's fault & last minute decision.
Surely the IAA have some influence on the financial & social operating behaviour of a local airline?

Can someone answer, with authority, what 'full refund' means? Is it the ticket price or the total amount you paid? The latter can be nearly double the former. There is a question about compensation payments. Considering those whose work schedule & income will be affected by being stranded overseas the figures could be significant. Even where children miss out school and parents are fined. The variety of people & their lives & responsibilities that could be affected is huge. How many will not take the risk of booking a return flight within the next 6 weeks?
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Old 17th Sep 2017, 08:28
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Ultimately the CAA is to blame for allowing low cost airlines to max out their crews' rosters in pursuit of maximum profit. This is a safety related issue rather than an economic issue. The CAA must bring FTL's into the 21st century to combat ruthless low cost airline management practices.
Airline fatigue needs addressing now.
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Old 17th Sep 2017, 08:56
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dgoliver, you'll be waiting for hell to freeze over before any authority does anything about that. You and I both know how these things work, the authority is reactionary, I.e. it will take a smoking hole in the ground for them to even consider a change. Can't you remember the new EASA FTLs doing the rounds through the European courts a few years ago? Something they fought so hard to implement won't be handed back on a plate.
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Old 17th Sep 2017, 09:04
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The authority is part of the system. The only thing that matters is that everything is legal (legal does not necessary mean moral).
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Old 17th Sep 2017, 09:16
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Wouldn't surprise me if they always knew they'd never be able to crew these flights. Just didn't want competitors getting the business. Would prefer to lose cash on compensation payouts as opposed to allow competitiors to grow their market share.

I'd love to see the minutes of their meetings.
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Old 17th Sep 2017, 09:32
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In general, I've always wondered who says a companies minutes reflect what was said or indeed intended...
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