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Old 18th Sep 2017, 12:06
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Pilot shortage?

Does anyone have an informed view on the impact a shortage of pilots might have had? Full disclosure, I'm the BBC Transport Correspondent...no names or quotes etc, just interested to know [email protected]
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Old 18th Sep 2017, 12:07
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Hope that the pilots will get together collectively in every major base and start demanding better t&c's. They have the manpower to do it. Perhaps they've already done it, we might see some strikes here and there in future if FR will continue ignoring them.

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Old 18th Sep 2017, 12:37
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Originally Posted by RichardBeeb View Post
Does anyone have an informed view on the impact a shortage of pilots might have had? Full disclosure, I'm the BBC Transport Correspondent...no names or quotes etc, just interested to know [email protected]
I'm sure there are plenty of guys who know about the current situation and also the reasons for pilots leaving and personnel policies in general. What Ryanair does is a disgrace in the industry.
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Old 18th Sep 2017, 13:14
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Originally Posted by anderse View Post
From quotes:
A draft plan and commitment to supply the resources (increased staff numbers, proper training and modern software) necessary to adequately staff the supporting departments of the company (crew control, rostering, payrol, maintrol etc.)
not receiving the support they are expecting from Crew control. No hotel booked or hotels booked via touristic website
Taxi’s to/from Airports are never booked.
Find it strange these things are not automated since all these requirements are in modules offered by Netline Crew, including long term staffing needs. Wonder if it is a cost issue of who pays, or a worked in practise of much manual interference with a too short time horizon.
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Old 18th Sep 2017, 13:27
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They save on admin staff costs by getting the pilots to be their own secretary and book their own everything basically.

This works on a very limited basis but now the demand to send Ryanair full time contracted pilots out of base has become so great the admin departments that do exist are still (I guess) at the staffing levels when the airline was a fraction of the size it is now.

When an airline grows everything has to grow with it and thats doesn't seem to have happened when it comes to the basic admin areas of the airline.
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Old 18th Sep 2017, 13:35
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Ryanair under pressure to publish full list of cancelled flights - BBC News


"Reports on Monday suggested recruitment problems were affecting the airline and that it had lost pilots to rival Norwegian Air.
A Norwegian spokesperson said: "We can confirm that 140 pilots have joined us from Ryanair this year. Pilot recruitment is also underway for more pilots for our new Dublin base opening later this year."
Ryanair has not issued a response to the claims."

Interesting last line - MOL is not not normally known for his lack of words!
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Old 18th Sep 2017, 13:48
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Where is rpg in this great opportunity....
Doesn't exists anymore. They stopped it about a year ago because of a lack of (new) people joining. Loads who had joined in the beginning moved on to a better place..
Last email they sent out was saying to join local ALPA
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Old 18th Sep 2017, 14:20
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Interesting last line - MOL is not not normally known for his lack of words!
He did comment - 10 days or so ago before all this kicked off publicly.

If you follow my link at #151 you'll get a flavor of his response.
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Old 18th Sep 2017, 14:27
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https://www.irishtimes.com/news/irel...25145?mode=amp
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Old 18th Sep 2017, 15:15
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Originally Posted by RichardBeeb View Post
Does anyone have an informed view on the impact a shortage of pilots might have had? Full disclosure, I'm the BBC Transport Correspondent...no names or quotes etc, just interested to know [email protected]
Having established that there are large numbers of pilots leaving Ryanair, I think the principle question should be, quite simply, why?

What proportion of Ryanair pilots are employed through an Agency, or through so-called "self employment"? If it was me and I had the opportunity to jump ship and move to a more secure contract elsewhere I'd be gone in a heartbeat.
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Old 18th Sep 2017, 15:26
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It was always going to be that way. During the 'dark ages' Ryanair were the only people hiring - they could call the shots. Enter the period where jobs abound (apparently) and you then get a far more fluid human resource market. Pilots who have cut their teeth with Ryanair will undoubtedly look for the next step up their career ladder. Ryanair has never really offered career options. Of course, MOL's solution is to just shop around for more 200hr fodder from the flying schools; pity they can't keep up.

There's a skill fade issue here, not just for Ryanair. What accident was the catalyst in USA for revisiting qualifications and experience?
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Old 18th Sep 2017, 15:28
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Havent Ryanair had a high turnover of pilots since they started on the Lo-Co business model. From what I know of people who worked there they are mainly used by newly qualified pilots for hour building before they move on to a 'real' job.

Is the present leaving situation any worse than it always has been?
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Old 18th Sep 2017, 15:37
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Originally Posted by littco View Post
Also noticed that MOL sold 4million shares on the 17thjune for £76million!
Isn't that insider dealing?
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Old 18th Sep 2017, 15:45
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Here a quote from the German news magazin "Der Spiegel" about the issue (translated by google):

"It is also speculated about a completely different background: According to the aviation expert Gerald Wissel from the consulting company Airborne, Ryanair is preparing for the possible case that the insolvent Air Berlin must stop its flight operation from lack of money prematurely.
"In the case of a premature 'grounding' of Air Berlin, the coveted start and land rights would have to be immediately given again by the responsible coordinator of the Federal Republic," Wissel told the Deutsche Presse-Agentur. The surcharge could only be received by companies, which could then also fly with corresponding aircraft the routes. Ryanair wanted some machines in the hindquarters.
The Irish company withdrew from bidding for the insolvent airline at the end of August. Criticism nevertheless reaped her: Berlin's Governing Mayor Michael Miiller, the airline as an "anti-business enterprise" with a "early capitalist" business model. Economically, Ryanair is currently in a good position: its second quarter, from April to the end of June, the low-cost airline closed with a net profit of 397 million euros." [SIC]
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Old 18th Sep 2017, 16:00
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Good thing Ryanair made a healthy profit - they'll be needing some readies for this:

Ryanair faces 20m euros compensation bill over cancellations - BBC News
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Old 18th Sep 2017, 16:03
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Originally Posted by Cows getting bigger View Post
It was always going to be that way. During the 'dark ages' Ryanair were the only people hiring - they could call the shots. Enter the period where jobs abound (apparently) and you then get a far more fluid human resource market. Pilots who have cut their teeth with Ryanair will undoubtedly look for the next step up their career ladder. Ryanair has never really offered career options. Of course, MOL's solution is to just shop around for more 200hr fodder from the flying schools; pity they can't keep up.

There's a skill fade issue here, not just for Ryanair. What accident was the catalyst in USA for revisiting qualifications and experience?
It was Colgan Air Flight 3407.
Now, you must have 1500hrs min to get hired anywhere in the USA.
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Old 18th Sep 2017, 16:04
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As referred to before in this thread, a quote from the latest BBC update.

'One anonymous Ryanair pilot has told the BBC that the leave issue is a red herring and that the root cause of the problem is that too many pilots are leaving Ryanair and the company is struggling to train up new crew.'
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Old 18th Sep 2017, 16:12
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Cancellation fiasco and EU court woes wipe €2bn off Ryanair value

This is the price for treating employees like trash.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/...24945?mode=amp
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Old 18th Sep 2017, 16:35
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https://www.irishtimes.com/business/...25116?mode=amp


Ryanair have announced a series of emergency personnel measures to ease the pressure on the raft of flight cancellations the company has made since Friday.

The airline, which also announced it would publish all flight cancellations through October by the end of the day, plans to buy back annual leave from pilots to ease pressure the company’s chief executive, Michael O’Leary, said on Monday.

Commenting on the ongoing uncertainty Mr O’Leary said that while the airline doesn’t have a pilot shortage, other airlines are poaching pilots. It therefore plans to recruit pilots from both Air Berlin and Alitalia.

Speaking on a call with analysts, Mr O’Leary also said the company plans to introduce pilot loyalty bonuses in an effort to keep its crew.

Mr O’Leary said its flight cancellations “will have a reputational impact” and noted that punctuality performance at the airline had dropped to between 60 and 70 per cent.

Ryanair, which now expects compensation claims of up to €20 million, moved on Friday to say it will operate a programme of flight cancellations over the next six weeks because of pilot shortage difficulties. The disruptions to its flights schedule will affect thousands of travellers, including some who are abroad and are expecting to return home with the airline.
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Old 18th Sep 2017, 16:42
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I want MOL in my office for tea & biscuits
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