Ryanair Cancelling flights!
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If you want to work for Ryanair work for them, if you don't, then don't.
I don't get all the MOL bashing. He runs a VERY successful business with a business model that delivers.
My only criticism is there seem to be no 'family values' as part of the strategy, but that is their choice.
I know that's controversial, but that is modern transport - it's about moving people cheaply.
I don't get all the MOL bashing. He runs a VERY successful business with a business model that delivers.
My only criticism is there seem to be no 'family values' as part of the strategy, but that is their choice.
I know that's controversial, but that is modern transport - it's about moving people cheaply.
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Because you don't get it does not mean others don't. Who started the race to the bottom on this side of the Atlantic ? With a strategy that is aimed at eliminating opposition by whatever means and a CEO who openly casts doubt on the ability of others to survive for no other reason than to further damage those operations, it is very reasonable to develop a bit of a dislike of the man. And when the strategy has succeeded what price cheap seats then ?
My comment certainly stirred up a bit of a hornets' nest it would appear.
Tone deaf.
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Dozens of cancellations for today and tomorrow as well.
https://www.cloud.scorebuddy.co.uk/r...ate=2017-09-15
It seems that sh*t is starting to hit the fan down in FR
https://www.cloud.scorebuddy.co.uk/r...ate=2017-09-15
It seems that sh*t is starting to hit the fan down in FR
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Only 80 flights cancelled today,
And another 80 so far tomorrow.
MOL must be going absolutely apoplectic over this. Oh to be a fly on the wall.
How much to cancel a flight? 30-50k at least? He just doesnt get it.....offer a day off payment to contractors and increase the payment for ryanair staff and maybe people will work a day off. Then address the fact why 100s are leaving.
For such a so called clever bright man, has he heard the phrase you "reap what you sow" before?
And another 80 so far tomorrow.
MOL must be going absolutely apoplectic over this. Oh to be a fly on the wall.
How much to cancel a flight? 30-50k at least? He just doesnt get it.....offer a day off payment to contractors and increase the payment for ryanair staff and maybe people will work a day off. Then address the fact why 100s are leaving.
For such a so called clever bright man, has he heard the phrase you "reap what you sow" before?
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These flights are for today, the French aren't on strike today.
I suspect that most wouldn't be able to work a day off as most won't have the hours available to do so.
I suspect that most wouldn't be able to work a day off as most won't have the hours available to do so.
the French aren't on strike today

It was a "one dayer", kicked in late Monday night, finished around Midnight Tuesday. At least one other airline operated full services into, out of and over France from Wednesday onwards and I flew into a French airport on Wednesday night.......so no, any FR cancellations today are not down to French ATC being on strike.
Mind you just so MOL and others can get their excuses in early they might want to be aware there is another "day of action" next Thursday...not sure of the level of ATC involvement.
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"Ryanair’s Irish fiction refuted by European Court of Justice.
GS Capture: please supply a link. The next question: is this ruling binding and if so, what are the authorities going to do about enforcing it? And what recompense and other refunds can the victims claim back? If they have incurred expenses which should have been at the employer's cost then surely they should be refundable. There is also a question about lost 'are time' or time off. The commuters were on duty positioning in their own time and so were not operating according to a correct contact.
Will this can or worms ever be opened?
GS Capture: please supply a link. The next question: is this ruling binding and if so, what are the authorities going to do about enforcing it? And what recompense and other refunds can the victims claim back? If they have incurred expenses which should have been at the employer's cost then surely they should be refundable. There is also a question about lost 'are time' or time off. The commuters were on duty positioning in their own time and so were not operating according to a correct contact.
Will this can or worms ever be opened?
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Having spoken to a few FR guys the 100hr/28 days bit is hurting. With delays etc... one commented that the 60 hrs/7 days was not enabling working days off or swaps. The roster apparently shows standby cover but crew auctually unable to be called due hours. Throw in a few standard sickness, technicals and all is in a bit of a pickle. Crew control not answering calls. One guy said most of his base are refusing days off as the very long days with min rest between is proving a bit punishing. Guys gasping for their months off which are about to start again. Only rumours off course.....
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Southwest can have a profitable Airline and a happy workforce that see the job as a career....why can't O'Leary?
I seriously think they underestimate how much of a problem this will be for them.
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They are totally feckless. Let's not forget for the last few months they have been flying in cabin crew from dub each morning as they are short on that front as well.
I do feel sorry for the people on the phones in crewing, the bosses have ballsed up, and they along with rest of staff are having to work hard. (Oh that is probably why have of crewing have also resigned in last month!!)
I do feel sorry for the people on the phones in crewing, the bosses have ballsed up, and they along with rest of staff are having to work hard. (Oh that is probably why have of crewing have also resigned in last month!!)
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RYR only need to hang on until the clocks change and then enjoy another 6 month respite before the next season starts.
They may breathe a sigh of relief on January 1st, but it will be short lived. If they can't crew the aircraft now, they have no chance with expansion. It's absolutely fantastic to see, imagine how many additional flights would be cancelled if their crew had the balls to call sick or fatigued when they're...sick or fatigued.
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I'd imagine the 737 rated DEC tree isn't baring any fruit and people are still heading for the door marked 'exit.' What's new? They'll pull through, bury their issues with PR spin and add a few extra zeros to the balance sheet for additional wet leasing costs. I wouldn't get too excited.
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"Ryanair’s Irish fiction refuted by European Court of Justice.
GS Capture: please supply a link. The next question: is this ruling binding and if so, what are the authorities going to do about enforcing it? And what recompense and other refunds can the victims claim back? If they have incurred expenses which should have been at the employer's cost then surely they should be refundable. There is also a question about lost 'are time' or time off. The commuters were on duty positioning in their own time and so were not operating according to a correct contact.
Will this can or worms ever be opened?
GS Capture: please supply a link. The next question: is this ruling binding and if so, what are the authorities going to do about enforcing it? And what recompense and other refunds can the victims claim back? If they have incurred expenses which should have been at the employer's cost then surely they should be refundable. There is also a question about lost 'are time' or time off. The commuters were on duty positioning in their own time and so were not operating according to a correct contact.
Will this can or worms ever be opened?
Ryanair loses EU court battle to keep Irish law for crew abroad | Reuters
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"Ryanair’s Irish fiction refuted by European Court of Justice.
GS Capture: please supply a link. The next question: is this ruling binding and if so, what are the authorities going to do about enforcing it? And what recompense and other refunds can the victims claim back? If they have incurred expenses which should have been at the employer's cost then surely they should be refundable. There is also a question about lost 'are time' or time off. The commuters were on duty positioning in their own time and so were not operating according to a correct contact.
Will this can or worms ever be opened?
GS Capture: please supply a link. The next question: is this ruling binding and if so, what are the authorities going to do about enforcing it? And what recompense and other refunds can the victims claim back? If they have incurred expenses which should have been at the employer's cost then surely they should be refundable. There is also a question about lost 'are time' or time off. The commuters were on duty positioning in their own time and so were not operating according to a correct contact.
Will this can or worms ever be opened?

https://www.eurocockpit.be/news/ryanairs-irish-fiction-refuted-european-court-justice
Good questions and probably it's just a small start but at least it is something. I don't think nothing will ever be refunded or so but as long as it slows down or it's a once step closer to stop this kind of employment it's always a good news to hear.
Oh and heard the same, Ryanair cancelled and will cancel odd ~80 flights a day.