BA Direct Entry Pilot.

[eaglesnest1972]

Just noticed that deadline for DEP (rated) has been postponed...
10th of september now...
Guess all applications received so far do not satisfy BA recruiters
Or too few applications...
Any insight from current BA fellow pilots?

[wiggy]

Any insight

At the risk of repeating myself....

Nothing official, but it's rumoured Flight Ops are under the cosh from a workload POV at the moment, maybe it' something to do with that.

(presses "Submit Reply" once, and waits.........)

[kirungi1]

The DailyMail has some fine words for BA. They say history has a tendency of repeating itself

Ryanair is snubbed as budget easyJet edges into list of world's top 10 airlines ... and British Airways steals number one spot | Mail Online

[eaglesnest1972]

Thanks Wiggy

[ETOPS240]

Kirungi

When Brighton is named number one for restaurants and bars, I think we can safely turn the page on that one.

[kirungi1]

ETOPS240..... depends on what you read out of it. None-the-less, a recognition remains a recognition and I'm sure others wouldn't have turned it down.

I would still stay on the same page!

[Northern Monkey]

WWW

Might I hazard a guess that you don't fly from Gatwick? When I worked for easyjet down there I averaged well over 685 hours a year. Now I'm at BA I'm averaging more like 825 block hours a year on short haul but obviously I do a lot more duty hours than I used to. I haven't met a 320 FO or Captain who's done less than 800 in the last 12 months.

Regardless of how the two airlines are perceived a lot of it will come down to where you are based with easyJet. That's what makes the comparison more complicated than certain people would like.

[Wee Weasley Welshman]

I concur.

When you factor in mortgage repayments on a regional house compared to a SE house then that's another overlooked aspect assuming you have geographic flexibility.

[mesh]

think deadline extension may provide a few Monarch peeps

[Callsign Kilo]

MON

Good, I hope as many as possible get positions. Horrid to have to go through redundancy

[edward england]

Would any junior FO's on the A320 with BA be kind enough to share :-
1. How many reports on average per month?
2. How many nights down route on average per month?
Are there many junior guys/girls on the A320 living over 90 minutes away from LHR and finding the commute acceptable?

[Stocious]

From a dip sample of 20 random September rosters at the blindline/junior tripline holder (samples taken from only months without leave):

1) Average of 10.2 reports from 20 rosters (range 7-13)
2) Average of 7.05 nights away from base (range 2-9)

Total average days worked : just over 17

[eaglesnest1972]

@Mesh

so you think it will be a "all UK" recruitment from Monarch, Easy and the others?
I really hope they will give a chance to expats also this time
Btw, yes, redudancy is simply awful so i hope these guys will fix their situations asap.

[FANS]

www, is your plan 30 years at ezy?

[bex88]

Edward England, Stocious is just about spot on with his figures. There are guys who commute from Norther Ireland etc on the SH fleet but its difficult for them. 90 minutes is ok just, but in my view anything over an hour is a real pain in the ass. If you are coming from the north the M25, M1, M40 can be almost impossible to judge. Many guys block their work together and stay down.

I was living an hour and 20 mins away and it was acceptable but I did eventually move to live within an hour although the commute was not the motivating factor

[Megaton]

I commuted from Glasgow on short haul for five years. It was manageable but not much fun. Also, I was able to pick up 4/5 day tours which kept down the nights at Heathrow. The real pains are disruption and reserve but there are plenty of acceptable b & bs near LHR for £30 a night.

[bringbackthe80s]

FANS just to give you perspective, there is and will eventually be NO difference between any short haul operation in Europe in terms of fatigue/amount of hours flown etc..we are talking 830 (eighthundredandthirty!) hours flown in a year at a major as of 2014, this would have been unthinkable 10 years ago or even less. Long haul will eventually have the same problem.

So to ask if you are planning to stay in this or that company for x amount of years does not indicate much me thinks.

The truth is, if tiredness/fatigue is a factor for you (which it is for most of us flying for the airlines), then join the company with the best part time options/pay, not a traditional 5 days trips short haul operation, possibly commuting from the middle of the countryside.

Sorry for OT

[Wee Weasley Welshman]

FANS

www, is your plan 30 years at ezy?

Half way there my friend. Options for 4 On 4 Off rosters being in the pipeline should help reduce fatigue and income tax issues soon. Everywhere else seems to have equal drawbacks and there's extra comfort being in the big orange lifeboat (70% fleet owned outright, ton of cash at hand and grew profits every year through horrendous recession).

I was told yesterday about a young chap who left to BA about five years ago when he must have been mid to late 20's. On the 380 fleet now he has worked out his numbers mean he is unlikely to ever get a command on that fleet. That surprised me a bit.

[Megaton]

I was told yesterday about a young chap who left to BA about five years ago when he must have been mid to late 20's. On the 380 fleet now he has worked out his numbers mean he is unlikely to ever get a command on that fleet.

Sounds like a distortion. If he joined in mid to late 20s, he'd have over 35 years in the company and would easily secure a long haul command.

[Wee Weasley Welshman]

That was my assumption. Is the 380 fleet particularly senior though?

I have also heard speculation this week that the outcome of the short haul review might make shorthaul less agreeable. As a consequence there may be surge in shorthaul Captains bidding to transfer to longhaul RHS. Thus drastically increasing the number of years a new joiner might expect to be 'stuck' on shorthaul.

Its certainly a topic of debate amongst the FO community out here in the swamp.