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Old 1st Sep 2014, 21:25
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Oh Lord Kirungi.

I once sat next to a Captain who said that we, as pilots, were the social elite.... Whilst struggling to do 'the Sun' crossword.

The cadets coming through are not exactly world beaters. Many have their abilities masked by flying an airliner in such a controlled environment, not challenged by it. BA is no different.
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Old 1st Sep 2014, 23:17
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My tiny (full time, normal line pilot) cog in the big orange machine amounts to 687hrs 33mins Block hours in the last 12 months over 339 sectors requiring 1,379hrs 40mins Duty hours. Two days sick, standard leave.

I'm doubtless institutionalised after 14 years but talk of unsustainable burn out passes me by.
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Old 2nd Sep 2014, 02:10
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So, today is the day.
Good luck to those who applied
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Old 2nd Sep 2014, 05:45
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The cadets don't need to be world beaters. Flying from LHR has many challenges and more frustrations, but you don't need to be able to walk on water in today's machinery.

Therein lies the rub. The days of legacy t and c s can not last and really people are playing for time. The curve is down but BA is still an outstanding option for those in the right circumstances.
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Old 2nd Sep 2014, 07:08
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Good luck for all today. Hopefully good news for most as we need guys and girls to join us.

My two pence worth......why do you want to leave your current airline? "I don't I am quite happy there"

Why do you want to join BA? "I just can't see myself not getting bored of flying tracksuits to turkey for the next 30 years and I appreciate the opportunities BA offer over a career"

And tell me what is your ultimate goal if you were to join BA? "To balance a successful and progressive career with a happy marriage". To which the interviewing pilot smiles, laughed and said yes yes divorce is expensive I can tell you.

How would you describe yourself? "Recklessly honest"

Worked for me so BA sometimes appreciate straight to the point without the equine poop.
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Old 2nd Sep 2014, 07:19
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A full-time LHR shorthaul pilot will do broadly the same number of hours as you indicate (the average is slightly more in fact) but with annual duty time approaching 2000 hours, usually spent hanging around in a windowless coffee bar in the bowels of T5 waiting for your next aircraft (fixed links are rare).

Personally, it's all the hanging around and feet dragging which gets to me.....

Edit: If you join today, you will get a five year shorthaul freeze. What this does not mean is that you can move to longhaul after five years. What it means is that you will have a valid bid which will be actioned subject to vacancies and your seniority. Currently, you will have to wait around seven years for your seniority to allow a move.
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Old 2nd Sep 2014, 07:44
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Personally, I wish we could offer all the Monarch chaps and chappets places. I don't think we will be short this time around.

BA for all its faults (and there are a few) is still far superior than the crappy outfit I used to fly for.
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Old 2nd Sep 2014, 08:27
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Just noticed that deadline for DEP (rated) has been postponed...
10th of september now...
Guess all applications received so far do not satisfy BA recruiters
Or too few applications...
Any insight from current BA fellow pilots?

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Old 2nd Sep 2014, 08:56
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Any insight
At the risk of repeating myself....

Nothing official, but it's rumoured Flight Ops are under the cosh from a workload POV at the moment, maybe it' something to do with that.

(presses "Submit Reply" once, and waits.........)
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Old 2nd Sep 2014, 09:34
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The DailyMail has some fine words for BA. They say history has a tendency of repeating itself

Ryanair is snubbed as budget easyJet edges into list of world's top 10 airlines ... and British Airways steals number one spot | Mail Online
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Old 2nd Sep 2014, 09:46
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Thanks Wiggy
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Old 2nd Sep 2014, 11:20
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When Brighton is named number one for restaurants and bars, I think we can safely turn the page on that one.
Old 2nd Sep 2014, 11:37
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ETOPS240..... depends on what you read out of it. None-the-less, a recognition remains a recognition and I'm sure others wouldn't have turned it down.

I would still stay on the same page!
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Old 2nd Sep 2014, 16:24
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Might I hazard a guess that you don't fly from Gatwick? When I worked for easyjet down there I averaged well over 685 hours a year. Now I'm at BA I'm averaging more like 825 block hours a year on short haul but obviously I do a lot more duty hours than I used to. I haven't met a 320 FO or Captain who's done less than 800 in the last 12 months.

Regardless of how the two airlines are perceived a lot of it will come down to where you are based with easyJet. That's what makes the comparison more complicated than certain people would like.
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Old 2nd Sep 2014, 16:32
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I concur.

When you factor in mortgage repayments on a regional house compared to a SE house then that's another overlooked aspect assuming you have geographic flexibility.
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Old 2nd Sep 2014, 18:24
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think deadline extension may provide a few Monarch peeps
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Old 2nd Sep 2014, 18:53
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Good, I hope as many as possible get positions. Horrid to have to go through redundancy
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Old 2nd Sep 2014, 21:15
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Would any junior FO's on the A320 with BA be kind enough to share :-
1. How many reports on average per month?
2. How many nights down route on average per month?
Are there many junior guys/girls on the A320 living over 90 minutes away from LHR and finding the commute acceptable?
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Old 3rd Sep 2014, 02:08
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From a dip sample of 20 random September rosters at the blindline/junior tripline holder (samples taken from only months without leave):

1) Average of 10.2 reports from 20 rosters (range 7-13)
2) Average of 7.05 nights away from base (range 2-9)

Total average days worked : just over 17
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Old 3rd Sep 2014, 02:27
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so you think it will be a "all UK" recruitment from Monarch, Easy and the others?
I really hope they will give a chance to expats also this time
Btw, yes, redudancy is simply awful so i hope these guys will fix their situations asap.
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