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Old 28th Apr 2018, 09:26
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As far as I understand it, the type rating requirement covers the candidate for ZFT training which I suppose is where BA are coming from. As far as the recruitment process goes (for those that have moaned about it), I was as fierce a critic of this as any having failed the computer aptitude tests twice. However I discovered on the third attempt at it that they just required some preparation and work (indeed that goes for the whole process). Any commercial pilot worth a grain of salt can pass them given the effort and application, I know because I’m living proof. So if you really want to work for BA then you might have to work for it, nothing wrong with that.
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Old 28th Apr 2018, 09:33
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Thanks Rex. I hadn’t thought of the ZFT angle. Where does the TR requirement leave military pilots with >500hrs ME who would otherwise be eligible for ZFT though? Seems to exclude them somewhat arbitrarily.
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Old 28th Apr 2018, 10:16
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Easy street. If you're a Service Pilot in the Royal Air Force, Royal Navy, Royal Marines or Army Air Corps, you can apply via our Managed Path – Direct Entry Pilot Scheme (lifted from the experienced pilots recruitment page) I am not sure this is currently active for the current recruitment as it does specify a type rating. Under the requirements it just says a type rating and 500 flying hours. It does not specify what type rating as it’s open recruitment to both SH and LH and the hours do not state on type. I would assume they would love a load of type rated pilots with hours for DEP money and a minimum training footprint. However they are probably relatively few in number. I would say you need to get in contact with LC or LA or any other inside contact you have to ask some questions. I do fly with a good number of relatively recent ex military recruits.
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Old 28th Apr 2018, 10:39
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Some ex Service pilots joined BA LH, 744, 787.777,A380 on the last tranche as DEP. Mainly ex Voyager as they get EASA A330/350 TR in RAF ,as conversion by Air Tanker use civilian pilots. Hence ZFT qualified. (Had to have done their ALTP exams in spare time of course)
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Old 28th Apr 2018, 11:33
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Originally Posted by cessnapete View Post
Some ex Service pilots joined BA LH, 744, 787.777,A380 on the last tranche as DEP. Mainly ex Voyager as they get EASA A330/350 TR in RAF ,as conversion by Air Tanker use civilian pilots. Hence ZFT qualified. (Had to have done their ALTP exams in spare time of course)
Plus a fair few C17, A400M and Herc mates without the Type Rating too, taken on via DEP, whom will also qualify for ZFT (effectively you get an unfrozen ATPL upon completion of the Type rating with the company, hours dependent).

Problem with waiting for managed path, its only opened about 3 times in the time I served and doesnt really offer that much more to the applicant than offered as part of DEP these days.And yes, 14 ATPL plus the joys of completing the CPL Skills and IR on a twin piston......

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Old 28th Apr 2018, 12:17
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Pity the days are gone when we took a ride as a civvy IRE in a Herc or Tristar to qualify the RAF guys for a civil IR. We all flew the same Airways!!
Common sense departs again. Although prob didn't do the Service pilot retention stats much help.
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Old 28th Apr 2018, 13:03
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Originally Posted by VinRouge
[on the last recruitment cycle] a fair few C17, A400M and Herc mates without the Type Rating too, taken on via DEP, whom will also qualify for ZFT (effectively you get an unfrozen ATPL upon completion of the Type rating with the company, hours dependent).
These are the people who I think will feel unfairly excluded by the TR requirement this time round. I don’t fall into the category but I wonder if the TR requirement can be ‘overlooked’ for those that do...
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Old 28th Apr 2018, 13:14
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Originally Posted by Easy Street View Post


These are the people who I think will feel unfairly excluded by the TR requirement this time round. I don’t fall into the category but I wonder if the TR requirement can be ‘overlooked’ for those that do...
I am not convinced it is a requirement if you take a close look at the DEP application.

Current type rating and a minimum of 500 flying hours (not including simulator time) on a Zero Flight Time (ZFT) qualifying aircraft, ideally with flying experience on this type within
the past 12 months. Preference for the longhaul fleets will be given to those currently flying
a jet type with a MTOM of 25 tonnes or greater and holding an unfrozen ATPL (A)
NB - for information on the EASA ZFT requirement please refer to CAP 804 section
FCL.730.A.
My understanding is that most of the RAF's AT fleet are ZFT qualifying... again, doesn't affect me, but for those that suspect it does, I think it would be worth clarification.
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Old 5th May 2018, 18:32
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BA Day 1

Can anyone share the current day 1 tests for BA these days. I went 4 years ago but I believe there have been some changes to the tests recently?? Any advice much appreciated. 😃
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Old 6th May 2018, 13:21
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Originally Posted by Don Logan View Post
Can anyone share the current day 1 tests for BA these days. I went 4 years ago but I believe there have been some changes to the tests recently?? Any advice much appreciated. 😃
Hi, I was studying on latestpilotjobs and it seems that verbal reasoning has changed...
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Old 6th May 2018, 19:37
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Originally Posted by Don Logan View Post
Can anyone share the current day 1 tests for BA these days. I went 4 years ago but I believe there have been some changes to the tests recently?? Any advice much appreciated. 😃
Does this mean people have started to be offered assessments for the DEP application?
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Old 7th May 2018, 07:40
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Originally Posted by kendrick47247 View Post
Does this mean people have started to be offered assessments for the DEP application?
I was just wondering that too.
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Old 11th May 2018, 23:59
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Anyone else having issues with the on line application form?
I can fill in the type rating section just fine, but it will not let me answer the 3 questions below. It doesn't let me click in the box to type out my answers.
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Old 12th May 2018, 12:02
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Originally Posted by Globally Challenged View Post


I was just wondering that too.
Seems like all has gone quiet until the application closes? Perhaps they're waiting to see how successful all the A320 interviews go
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Old 12th May 2018, 16:15
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Originally Posted by kendrick47247 View Post
Seems like all has gone quiet until the application closes? Perhaps they're waiting to see how successful all the A320 interviews go
They have been offering assessments in May, about 3/4 different dates available ...
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Old 12th May 2018, 16:43
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Anyone has done the first day selection in the last year? There is some talk of some of it having changed, but I can't find something concrete.
I did the selection 3 years ago when it was verbal and numerical reasoning, the multitasking test with ATC and system monitoring, and the multitasking crosshairs/countdown/shapes ?
Does anyone know if this is still the case?

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Old 12th May 2018, 17:44
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Originally Posted by NukeHunt View Post
Anyone else having issues with the on line application form?
I can fill in the type rating section just fine, but it will not let me answer the 3 questions below. It doesn't let me click in the box to type out my answers.
Yeah I'm having exactly the same issue. Just been on hold to BA I.T. dept for over an hour but no one is answering! Any idea when the closing date is, can't find it on the application.
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Old 13th May 2018, 11:14
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Originally Posted by Redthruster View Post
Yeah I'm having exactly the same issue. Just been on hold to BA I.T. dept for over an hour but no one is answering! Any idea when the closing date is, can't find it on the application.
Did you have any luck getting this sorted?
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Old 13th May 2018, 14:06
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Originally Posted by Shadyxc1 View Post

Did you have any luck getting this sorted?
Click the top box.

Fill in your hours.

Use the Tab key to move the cursor down.
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Old 14th May 2018, 12:30
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Originally Posted by Redthruster View Post
Yeah I'm having exactly the same issue. Just been on hold to BA I.T. dept for over an hour but no one is answering! Any idea when the closing date is, can't find it on the application.
same issue, any luck? closing date has been moved up to this Friday, 18th.
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