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Old 16th May 2018, 12:47
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Old 16th May 2018, 12:48
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Originally Posted by AIMINGHIGH123 View Post
What so youíre saying because I had everything ready for when it opened this is rushed?
Anyone who is in the industry who is interested would have known it was opening.
Last time I missed out, work got in the way and I spent ages getting everything ready then they closed it early!!!
Rushed!! No just had everything prepared.
Don't worry about these silly comments. You are 100% right. The BA recruitment team is full of pragmatic and nice people. They all want as many suitable applicants as possible and are not looking for an excuse to turn people down. Well done on applying quickly and your preparations. It all helps in getting your name on the seniority list as quick as you can.
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Old 17th May 2018, 06:11
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I should not even be on this thread, but, as an early retired and inconsequential Canadian, who flew numerous general aviation aircraft, and numerous airliners, mostly for charter operators (think britannia, monarch, and the like), long haul and short haul, big and narrowbody, and one asian national carrier doing long haul, I must say that being a pilot in the UK sounds awfully complicated. And yes, have flown into the UK numerous times, along with the rest of Europe. Just part of the job.

After a fair amount of outright bankruptcies, mass layoffs, and constant seasonal layoffs, it just so turned out that I had to get many new type ratings with the new employer, and all paid by the employer. So, none of this type rated requirement was going on. At the end of the day, it was just another airplane to learn. People of my ilk actually got fed up by going onto yet another course, just to fulfill employment requirements.

The two main carriers here, and, all of the American carriers, hire non type rated pilots all the time, and they provide all of the training. However, there are no cadet programs, people tend to have at the very least, 2000 to 5000 hours of flying time in anything that flies. Even if you had a type rating on one of their aircraft, it would mean little or nothing, since initial job awards are solely based on seniority driven openings.

I feel for you guys, aviation life in Britain sounds very hard...........

Cheers
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Old 17th May 2018, 07:05
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Nope. Born in Canada and it is the only passport I have. So could never work in Europe in any case, pointless to even pursue an EASA/JAA/UK license or type rating. Do have two european born parents though, so I could have gotten the passport at least, but again, no point since I was installed in a life and a job over here.
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Old 17th May 2018, 07:40
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Can any swimmers confirm if there has been any comms to the holdpool of late? I received an email back in Feb informing me that other people had been offered jobs (something about salt and wounds). 2 years of swimming now and no idea if iíve a gold badge or indeed drowned. Have I missed the most recent Webinar?
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Old 17th May 2018, 16:20
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Hi guys,

This is my first time getting through to the first assessment. For those that have done it before, it is similar to the way other airlines programme their computer based tests or is it something totally different?

cheers.
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Old 17th May 2018, 18:20
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Originally Posted by JV View Post
I should not even be on this thread, but, as an early retired and inconsequential Canadian, who flew numerous general aviation aircraft, and numerous airliners, mostly for charter operators (think britannia, monarch, and the like), long haul and short haul, big and narrowbody, and one asian national carrier doing long haul, I must say that being a pilot in the UK sounds awfully complicated. And yes, have flown into the UK numerous times, along with the rest of Europe. Just part of the job.

After a fair amount of outright bankruptcies, mass layoffs, and constant seasonal layoffs, it just so turned out that I had to get many new type ratings with the new employer, and all paid by the employer. So, none of this type rated requirement was going on. At the end of the day, it was just another airplane to learn. People of my ilk actually got fed up by going onto yet another course, just to fulfill employment requirements.

The two main carriers here, and, all of the American carriers, hire non type rated pilots all the time, and they provide all of the training. However, there are no cadet programs, people tend to have at the very least, 2000 to 5000 hours of flying time in anything that flies. Even if you had a type rating on one of their aircraft, it would mean little or nothing, since initial job awards are solely based on seniority driven openings.

I feel for you guys, aviation life in Britain sounds very hard...........

Cheers
J V
Not complicated at all! Itís a buyers market at the moment lots of recruitment too few pilots. Most Legacy airlines have a well trodden recruitment process to get the best applicants and weed out the weak.
In the UK we even take on non type rated pilots with 250 ish total hours out of reputable training schools and put them straight onto A320/B737 types.
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Old 18th May 2018, 14:13
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Originally Posted by cessnapete View Post

J V
Not complicated at all! Itís a buyers market at the moment lots of recruitment too few pilots. Most Legacy airlines have a well trodden recruitment process to get the best applicants and weed out the weak.
In the UK we even take on non type rated pilots with 250 ish total hours out of reputable training schools and put them straight onto A320/B737 types.
HR still have a good go at turning those applying those for selection into Aviation HR experts.
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Old 20th May 2018, 23:33
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Can anyone confirm the current time to command on long haul in BA? Many thanks.
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Old 21st May 2018, 05:04
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Originally Posted by AirUK View Post
Can anyone confirm the current time to command on long haul in BA? Many thanks.
About 19-20 years at the moment.

Although over the next 15 years roughly half of the community will retire.
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Old 21st May 2018, 10:15
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Originally Posted by AirUK View Post
Right Engine,

Many thanks, that confirms what I'd heard. Doesn't sound as though it would be worth me joining in my mid-30s - I'm hoping to wind down a bit by my mid-50s (if I can afford it!), even if the retirement bulge might mean it comes forward by a couple of years.
You also need to factor in the lack of lifestyle for the first 5+ years in your mid 30's. Many sell BA as a lifestyle choice. But the reality is far from ideal, with most weekends at work, and 2+ periods of reserve every year. Not great if your past 30, with a family and very little time to reap the rewards at the end of the career, as a JUNIOR LH skipper.
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Old 21st May 2018, 15:18
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Tricia,

Another good point to consider - thank you.
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Old 21st May 2018, 15:26
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Also, by the time you’ve been in the company long enough to finally be earning above market rate, you’ll be so knackered you’ll be needing part time, so you won’t actually end up reaping those rewards.
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Old 21st May 2018, 16:43
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Any news of more assessment invites?
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Old 22nd May 2018, 20:27
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Day 1 feedback

Originally Posted by Planefan2981 View Post
Hi guys,

This is my first time getting through to the first assessment. For those that have done it before, it is similar to the way other airlines programme their computer based tests or is it something totally different?

cheers.
Hi Planefan2981, could you share what your day 1 was like ? did you use anything like latestpilotjobs to prepare?

thank you!
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Old 23rd May 2018, 20:44
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Anyone still waiting for a reply to assessments in first week of May.
If you don’t hear for three weeks, are they just finding you sim slots??
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Old 24th May 2018, 12:32
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I joined at 34, was told Iíd not get a even a short haul command at Gatwick for 16 years, but I got that in 4, then a Heathrow one 4 months later. Anything can happen, you never know. Been in 7 years now, checking iBid every month shows between 5-10 leavers per month, most not going to 65.
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Old 25th May 2018, 09:45
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Originally Posted by SinBin View Post
I joined at 34, was told Iíd not get a even a short haul command at Gatwick for 16 years, but I got that in 4, then a Heathrow one 4 months later. Anything can happen, you never know. Been in 7 years now, checking iBid every month shows between 5-10 leavers per month, most not going to 65.
Is LH that fluid though?
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Old 25th May 2018, 11:49
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Originally Posted by AirUK View Post
Is LH that fluid though?
Not up to now, but itís falling all the time, and who knows?
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Old 26th May 2018, 07:32
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Well it certainly is fluid but I’d not like to predict which way.....LH commands used to around the 15 year mark, recently however I’ve flown with several guys who are coming up to 20 years in the RHS and they are not being held back by being particularly selective in what they have bid for.

Logically I suspect you’ll see the time to command slide back down to more normal levels as retirements and a few resignations kick in so those that have already joined might benefit.
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