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Flynn was not aware of Aer Lingus Belfast plan
Sunday, 19 August 2007 13:00
The industrial relations negotiator who worked with Aer Lingus management and pilots over the company's plans to set up new bases outside the Republic, has said he was unaware of any proposals for Belfast.
Phil Flynn told the pilots' union in a letter that had he known of the plans, he would probably have recommended that pilot concerns about the establishment of the base be dealt with through joint discussions.
IALPA says Mr Flynn's statement vindicates its position that the Belfast base does not come under the terms of the Flynn Report, and undermines Aer Lingus' claims that it does.
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The Union is now asking that Aer Lingus reconsiders its offer for talks regarding the staffing of the Belfast base.
Aer Lingus says at the time that Mr Flynn was working on his recommendations, no new bases had been definitively identified.
Since then, the airline says, Belfast was identified as a new base in the spirit of the recommendations of the Flynn Report.
Source:http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0819/aerlingus.html
Sunday, 19 August 2007 13:00
The industrial relations negotiator who worked with Aer Lingus management and pilots over the company's plans to set up new bases outside the Republic, has said he was unaware of any proposals for Belfast.
Phil Flynn told the pilots' union in a letter that had he known of the plans, he would probably have recommended that pilot concerns about the establishment of the base be dealt with through joint discussions.
IALPA says Mr Flynn's statement vindicates its position that the Belfast base does not come under the terms of the Flynn Report, and undermines Aer Lingus' claims that it does.
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The Union is now asking that Aer Lingus reconsiders its offer for talks regarding the staffing of the Belfast base.
Aer Lingus says at the time that Mr Flynn was working on his recommendations, no new bases had been definitively identified.
Since then, the airline says, Belfast was identified as a new base in the spirit of the recommendations of the Flynn Report.
Source:http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0819/aerlingus.html
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From todays RTE website:
Flynn was not aware of Aer Lingus Belfast plan
Sunday, 19 August 2007 13:00
The industrial relations negotiator who worked with Aer Lingus management and pilots over the company's plans to set up new bases outside the Republic, has said he was unaware of any proposals for Belfast.
Phil Flynn told the pilots' union in a letter that had he known of the plans, he would probably have recommended that pilot concerns about the establishment of the base be dealt with through joint discussions.
IALPA says Mr Flynn's statement vindicates its position that the Belfast base does not come under the terms of the Flynn Report, and undermines Aer Lingus' claims that it does.
The Union is now asking that Aer Lingus reconsiders its offer for talks regarding the staffing of the Belfast base.
Aer Lingus says at the time that Mr Flynn was working on his recommendations, no new bases had been definitively identified.
Since then, the airline says, Belfast was identified as a new base in the spirit of the recommendations of the Flynn Report.
Mr Flynn says he was aware the company was considering future bases in North America, Eastern Europe, Britain and Cork.
But he said the information he received from the company did not include plans for a base in Belfast.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0819/aerlingus.html
Flynn was not aware of Aer Lingus Belfast plan
Sunday, 19 August 2007 13:00
The industrial relations negotiator who worked with Aer Lingus management and pilots over the company's plans to set up new bases outside the Republic, has said he was unaware of any proposals for Belfast.
Phil Flynn told the pilots' union in a letter that had he known of the plans, he would probably have recommended that pilot concerns about the establishment of the base be dealt with through joint discussions.
IALPA says Mr Flynn's statement vindicates its position that the Belfast base does not come under the terms of the Flynn Report, and undermines Aer Lingus' claims that it does.
The Union is now asking that Aer Lingus reconsiders its offer for talks regarding the staffing of the Belfast base.
Aer Lingus says at the time that Mr Flynn was working on his recommendations, no new bases had been definitively identified.
Since then, the airline says, Belfast was identified as a new base in the spirit of the recommendations of the Flynn Report.
Mr Flynn says he was aware the company was considering future bases in North America, Eastern Europe, Britain and Cork.
But he said the information he received from the company did not include plans for a base in Belfast.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0819/aerlingus.html
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Aer Lingus management are playing silly buggers and that message is now getting out loud and clear.
Anyone in business who considers contractual agreements as empty promises to be ignored at whim is - as I said - a liar and a fraudster.
A Liar, because thats what such a person makes of themselves by freely entering into contractual agreements they have no intention of honouring;
And a Fraudster, because wilfull breach of contract is more than just a lie - it is deception, and patently fraudelent.
Stand31, there is no point in talking to a troll - give it up.
Anyone in business who considers contractual agreements as empty promises to be ignored at whim is - as I said - a liar and a fraudster.
A Liar, because thats what such a person makes of themselves by freely entering into contractual agreements they have no intention of honouring;
And a Fraudster, because wilfull breach of contract is more than just a lie - it is deception, and patently fraudelent.
Stand31, there is no point in talking to a troll - give it up.
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Good man CaptKremin, keep flinging the mud and smokescreens. And keep playing the man. Don't get personal Kremin, I warned you on that.
I said there are occasions in which agreement can be broken. (and indeed which have been backed by the Labour Court in the past)
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Flynn 'unaware' of plans for Belfast hub
Irish Times – 16:49
It has emerged that industrial relations consultant Phil Flynn who adjudicated over talks on Aer Lingus's plans to set up new bases outside the Republic was not aware of the airline's plans to move operations to Belfast.
In a written response to a query made by the Irish Air Line Pilots Association (Ialpa) Mr Flynn said he would probably have recommended that any concerns about such a move should be dealt with through joint discussions.
Aer Lingus chief executive Dermot Mannion said this week that a report produced by Mr Flynn under the auspices of the Labour Court recommended the company should be allowed to recruit staff at new bases on local market rates.
The airline says that at the time of the report that it had yet to decide on a location for its new base.
However Mr Flynn made his remarks in reply to a request by Ialpa for him to clarify the situation.
Ialpa said Mr Flynn's statement vindicates its position that the Belfast base does not come under the terms of the Flynn Report, and undermines Aer Lingus' claims that it does. President Evan Cullen call on Aer Lingus to reconsiders its offer for talks to negotiate on the terms and conditions for the Belfast jobs.
Irish Times – 16:49
It has emerged that industrial relations consultant Phil Flynn who adjudicated over talks on Aer Lingus's plans to set up new bases outside the Republic was not aware of the airline's plans to move operations to Belfast.
In a written response to a query made by the Irish Air Line Pilots Association (Ialpa) Mr Flynn said he would probably have recommended that any concerns about such a move should be dealt with through joint discussions.
Aer Lingus chief executive Dermot Mannion said this week that a report produced by Mr Flynn under the auspices of the Labour Court recommended the company should be allowed to recruit staff at new bases on local market rates.
The airline says that at the time of the report that it had yet to decide on a location for its new base.
However Mr Flynn made his remarks in reply to a request by Ialpa for him to clarify the situation.
Ialpa said Mr Flynn's statement vindicates its position that the Belfast base does not come under the terms of the Flynn Report, and undermines Aer Lingus' claims that it does. President Evan Cullen call on Aer Lingus to reconsiders its offer for talks to negotiate on the terms and conditions for the Belfast jobs.
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Mannion writes letter to IALPA pilots
Sunday, 19 August 2007 19:53
Dermot Mannion has written to pilots union IALPA, inviting them to talks aimed at alleviating their concerns surrounding the setting up of a new base in Belfast.
In the letter, seen by RTE News, Mr Mannion says the company accepts a recommendation made by industrial relations troubleshooter Phil Flynn, that the company should engage in discussions to explore how such concerns can be alleviated.
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Sunday, 19 August 2007 19:53
Dermot Mannion has written to pilots union IALPA, inviting them to talks aimed at alleviating their concerns surrounding the setting up of a new base in Belfast.
In the letter, seen by RTE News, Mr Mannion says the company accepts a recommendation made by industrial relations troubleshooter Phil Flynn, that the company should engage in discussions to explore how such concerns can be alleviated.
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Hopefully sense can be seen on both sides, get into talks, hammer things out on an equitable basis and move on.
One world 22 ,having read all your jump on the band wagon posts, you either are a wanna be, working for AL in a marginal capacity or working in a slurry pit, but your posts are imo are fire brand contentious, and of the H20 dream variety..
No one wants this industrial unrest....pilots as family folk in their wildest dreams grimace at the thought of discommoding family holiday plans .hopefully with the tentacle of Mannions letter tonight vis a vee Flynns comments, the strike can be called off, all parties sit down, engage, and sort their grievances, work things out, there will have to be will be give and take on both sides and bingo BFS base is an entitly with all on board reasonably happy ....
One world 22 ,having read all your jump on the band wagon posts, you either are a wanna be, working for AL in a marginal capacity or working in a slurry pit, but your posts are imo are fire brand contentious, and of the H20 dream variety..
No one wants this industrial unrest....pilots as family folk in their wildest dreams grimace at the thought of discommoding family holiday plans .hopefully with the tentacle of Mannions letter tonight vis a vee Flynns comments, the strike can be called off, all parties sit down, engage, and sort their grievances, work things out, there will have to be will be give and take on both sides and bingo BFS base is an entitly with all on board reasonably happy ....
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Last Updated: 20/08/2007 12:47 - Irish Times
Pilots accept LRC invitation from Aer Lingus
The Irish Airline Pilots Association (IALPA) has accepted an invitation from Aer Lingus for joint talks at the Labour Relations Commission (LRC) and will call off its strike when talks are confirmed.
Aer Lingus chief executive Dermot Mannion last night wrote to the Irish Airline Pilots' Association (IALPA) calling on the union to withdraw its strike notice and to immediately engage with the company.
In a statement issued a short time ago by IALPA, the union said it would suspend the strike when Aer Lingus provided written confirmation that it agreed to the talks.
The news that the strike action is likely to be averted will come as a relief to the estimated 40,000 passengers who would have been affected by the 48-hour walkout by almost 500 pilots.
The pilots proposed to strike over the airline's plans to hire pilots for the new Belfast base on less favourable terms and conditions than its pilots flying out of the Republic.
Pilots accept LRC invitation from Aer Lingus
The Irish Airline Pilots Association (IALPA) has accepted an invitation from Aer Lingus for joint talks at the Labour Relations Commission (LRC) and will call off its strike when talks are confirmed.
Aer Lingus chief executive Dermot Mannion last night wrote to the Irish Airline Pilots' Association (IALPA) calling on the union to withdraw its strike notice and to immediately engage with the company.
In a statement issued a short time ago by IALPA, the union said it would suspend the strike when Aer Lingus provided written confirmation that it agreed to the talks.
The news that the strike action is likely to be averted will come as a relief to the estimated 40,000 passengers who would have been affected by the 48-hour walkout by almost 500 pilots.
The pilots proposed to strike over the airline's plans to hire pilots for the new Belfast base on less favourable terms and conditions than its pilots flying out of the Republic.
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Good news, talks to be confirmed
Last Updated: 20/08/2007 12:47
Pilots accept LRC invite from Aer Lingus
The Irish Airline Pilots Association (IALPA) has accepted an invitation from Aer Lingus for joint talks at the Labour Relations Commission (LRC) and will call off its strike when talks are confirmed.
Aer Lingus chief executive Dermot Mannion last night wrote to the Irish Airline Pilots' Association (IALPA) calling on the union to withdraw its strike notice and to immediately engage with the company.
Aer Lingus chief executive Dermot Mannion
In a statement issued a short time ago by IALPA, the union said it would suspend the strike when Aer Lingus provided written confirmation that it agreed to the talks.
The news that the strike action is likely to be averted will come as a relief to the estimated 40,000 passengers who would have been affected by the 48-hour walkout by almost 500 pilots.
The pilots proposed to strike over the airline's plans to hire pilots for the new Belfast base on less favourable terms and conditions than its pilots flying out of the Republic.
It also emerged last night that the Taoiseach has asked Government officials to examine options for airline connections to the region.
A report in this morning's Irish Times says the group will begin work in the coming days and that Cabinet will consider the issue in 10 days' time at its first meeting after the holidays.
The group has also been asked to examine the
Pilots accept LRC invite from Aer Lingus
The Irish Airline Pilots Association (IALPA) has accepted an invitation from Aer Lingus for joint talks at the Labour Relations Commission (LRC) and will call off its strike when talks are confirmed.
Aer Lingus chief executive Dermot Mannion last night wrote to the Irish Airline Pilots' Association (IALPA) calling on the union to withdraw its strike notice and to immediately engage with the company.
Aer Lingus chief executive Dermot Mannion
In a statement issued a short time ago by IALPA, the union said it would suspend the strike when Aer Lingus provided written confirmation that it agreed to the talks.
The news that the strike action is likely to be averted will come as a relief to the estimated 40,000 passengers who would have been affected by the 48-hour walkout by almost 500 pilots.
The pilots proposed to strike over the airline's plans to hire pilots for the new Belfast base on less favourable terms and conditions than its pilots flying out of the Republic.
It also emerged last night that the Taoiseach has asked Government officials to examine options for airline connections to the region.
A report in this morning's Irish Times says the group will begin work in the coming days and that Cabinet will consider the issue in 10 days' time at its first meeting after the holidays.
The group has also been asked to examine the
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Pilots offer to suspend 48hr strike
Monday, 20 August 2007 12:48
The Irish Airline Pilots' Association has offered to suspend its two day strike if Aer Lingus agrees to enter talks at the Labour Relations Commission.
In a letter to Aer Lingus Chief Executive Dermott Mannion, the pilots' union said it welcomed the prospect that Aer Lingus and the union could avoid a damaging strike on Tuesday and Wednesday, which could affect up to 50,000 passengers.
The union proposes that Aer Lingus and IALPA should jointly approach the LRC with a request to facilitate joint discussions.
IALPA says that if it gets written confirmation that Aer Lingus agrees to this proposal it will suspend the strike.
The union says it welcomes mediator Phil Flynn's suggestion that joint discussions take place on how IALPA concerns might be allayed.
IALPA will be making no further comment until it receives a response from Aer Lingus.
Source: http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0820/aerlingus1.html
Monday, 20 August 2007 12:48
The Irish Airline Pilots' Association has offered to suspend its two day strike if Aer Lingus agrees to enter talks at the Labour Relations Commission.
In a letter to Aer Lingus Chief Executive Dermott Mannion, the pilots' union said it welcomed the prospect that Aer Lingus and the union could avoid a damaging strike on Tuesday and Wednesday, which could affect up to 50,000 passengers.
The union proposes that Aer Lingus and IALPA should jointly approach the LRC with a request to facilitate joint discussions.
IALPA says that if it gets written confirmation that Aer Lingus agrees to this proposal it will suspend the strike.
The union says it welcomes mediator Phil Flynn's suggestion that joint discussions take place on how IALPA concerns might be allayed.
IALPA will be making no further comment until it receives a response from Aer Lingus.
Source: http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0820/aerlingus1.html
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Welcome back Leo. Seeing as you only appear when things aren't going ryanairs way, it appears micko is getting worried about this situation.
Anyhoo, hope the grass the greener in Germany Leo, than the distinctly brown shade it is elsewhere.
Anyhoo, hope the grass the greener in Germany Leo, than the distinctly brown shade it is elsewhere.
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Phew!
Glad for all concerned. Customers, the airline and yes, it's Pilots as well.
Hopefully an agreement can be reached now.
Glad for all concerned. Customers, the airline and yes, it's Pilots as well.
Hopefully an agreement can be reached now.
Aer Lingus pilots call off 48-hr strike
Monday, 20 August 2007 15:24
Aer Lingus pilots have called off their two-day strike which was scheduled to begin at midnight.
In a letter to Aer Lingus Chief Executive Dermot Mannion, the pilots' union, IALPA, welcomed the company's acceptance of the pilots' proposal for talks facilitated by the Labour Relations Commission.
They said that as a result the strike planned for tomorrow and Wednesday is now suspended.
Monday, 20 August 2007 15:24
Aer Lingus pilots have called off their two-day strike which was scheduled to begin at midnight.
In a letter to Aer Lingus Chief Executive Dermot Mannion, the pilots' union, IALPA, welcomed the company's acceptance of the pilots' proposal for talks facilitated by the Labour Relations Commission.
They said that as a result the strike planned for tomorrow and Wednesday is now suspended.
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Now,wouldn't it have been much easier for management 
to have just sat down and talked in the first place, instead of instigating their failed poilcy of engineering a strike and trying to force the pilots to capitulate?!
to have just sat down and talked in the first place, instead of instigating their failed poilcy of engineering a strike and trying to force the pilots to capitulate?!