FlyBe to acquire BA Connect (Crew thread - no spotters)
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Well, I'm glad.
There's been FA in the Herald not to mention Brum or Man press.
Pilots may (I'm one) be ok. Ground staff are totally screwed.
ALL BA STAFF AT EDI ARE FOR THE CHOP!
As for BA 'presence' in the 'regions'?
Apparantly a matter of supreme indifference to all.
Well, I'm glad.
There's been FA in the Herald not to mention Brum or Man press.
Pilots may (I'm one) be ok. Ground staff are totally screwed.
ALL BA STAFF AT EDI ARE FOR THE CHOP!
As for BA 'presence' in the 'regions'?
Apparantly a matter of supreme indifference to all.
Who will attend to the shuttles and the 3rd party work currently undertaken by BA?
I am specifically thinking about Engineering but my question applies to all groundstaff.
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Don't forget that the soon to be Ex MD of Bacon and his finance director are also directors of a newly formed ground handling company based in BHX. It was formed out of the ashes of BAR. It was profitable in it's first year of operation and it appears to have made it's money providing aviation services to BACon. I think it also owns the INV ground handling operation too. Will it shrink and die or will it grow???.
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Yogi are recruiting guys.... anyone for a 40% paycut? You know where to send the CV.... 
Best of luck to everyone at Bacon, hope you find something else soon, I doubt flybe will suit everyone... but there are plenty of jobs out there... (other than yogi
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Best of luck to everyone at Bacon, hope you find something else soon, I doubt flybe will suit everyone... but there are plenty of jobs out there... (other than yogi
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Most of the BA staff out in the regions deal with 'Connect' flights, which of course will be no more.
This will leave 'Shuttle' flights, but BA are putting the handling of these flights out to tender a la CDG.
Servisair/Swissport etc will no doubt get the work?
So why would Ba need anyone if the Connect flights are no more and the Shuttles are 'tendered out'?
Heard today there a meeting at LC on thursday. Maybe Flybe are taking then over too!
Shurely shome mishtake!
Most of the BA staff out in the regions deal with 'Connect' flights, which of course will be no more.
This will leave 'Shuttle' flights, but BA are putting the handling of these flights out to tender a la CDG.
Servisair/Swissport etc will no doubt get the work?
So why would Ba need anyone if the Connect flights are no more and the Shuttles are 'tendered out'?
Heard today there a meeting at LC on thursday. Maybe Flybe are taking then over too!
Shurely shome mishtake!
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Heroic Scottish Pilots.
The fact that hundreds of ground staff are no longer required has put my concerns about probably not getting the leave I applied for next year into perspective - or perhaps 2007 will be one, long, enforced holiday!
It's been 10 days since the announcement and there has been no further information, apart from speculation and rumour. My escape plan is almost complete, but I'll leave Loganair to those heroic Scottish pilots. I'd rather stick to ILSs and 3000 metre concrete runways.
BTW, Brain Dead, there is also a rumour that FlyBe will acquire Suckling/ScotAirways, but that really is just a rumour.
It's been 10 days since the announcement and there has been no further information, apart from speculation and rumour. My escape plan is almost complete, but I'll leave Loganair to those heroic Scottish pilots. I'd rather stick to ILSs and 3000 metre concrete runways.
BTW, Brain Dead, there is also a rumour that FlyBe will acquire Suckling/ScotAirways, but that really is just a rumour.
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Given that the former BAR handling services have been bought out by DE to form a new company, is there any chance that a new handling agent may well be formed to look after these flights in the regions? If not does BA have a handling agent of choice typically? They've just started being handled by Servisair down here at EMA for their new GB service to TFS, but was wondering if Servisair was the norm.
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Turin
Most of the BA staff out in the regions deal with 'Connect' flights, which of course will be no more.
This will leave 'Shuttle' flights, but BA are putting the handling of these flights out to tender a la CDG.
Servisair/Swissport etc will no doubt get the work?
So why would Ba need anyone if the Connect flights are no more and the Shuttles are 'tendered out'?
Heard today there a meeting at LC on thursday. Maybe Flybe are taking then over too!
Shurely shome mishtake!
Most of the BA staff out in the regions deal with 'Connect' flights, which of course will be no more.
This will leave 'Shuttle' flights, but BA are putting the handling of these flights out to tender a la CDG.
Servisair/Swissport etc will no doubt get the work?
So why would Ba need anyone if the Connect flights are no more and the Shuttles are 'tendered out'?
Heard today there a meeting at LC on thursday. Maybe Flybe are taking then over too!
Shurely shome mishtake!
Put it this way, LOGANAIR is out of the picture - WW has made that clear. I have heard over the past couple of days that flybe and Loganair will announce a franchise deal, where LC op for flybe and use Dash8-300s inherited by flybe from Connect. As speculated already, an announcement is supposedly due on THURSDAY 16 NOV
The new EDI-LCY- and beyond services are going to operate via yet another 'new subsidiary'. Mmmmmmmmm... How long will WW let it run? Yes it does make money in its present form, but will tinkering around with the format make it any better and cheaper to run? Again, BA will not handle it due to costs involved. 10 x AVRO RJ100s pencilled in to operate to the city and rumour has it to LHR/LGW during the quiet periods of the day.
Merry Christmas WW, and the team at Waterworld
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Yes, I heard the same rumour today about 'our' dashes going to LC.
What I'd like to know is the name of the RJ operation. Connect? BA red? BEA?
When I commented about the lack of BA ground staff, it was simply to draw attention to the fact. NOT to comment on the desirability (or otherwise) of the action.
I'm sure it will save BA a bunch of money. The point is that over a thousand BA employees will be chopped and there's been practically FA in the papers about it.
Having said that, some are way overpaid and highly underworked/underinterested.
Gonna be a big Flybe op at GLA if this is correct. I think the folk who stay on at EDI for the RJ may come to wish they'd gone to Flybe- but who really knows?
Yes, I heard the same rumour today about 'our' dashes going to LC.
What I'd like to know is the name of the RJ operation. Connect? BA red? BEA?
When I commented about the lack of BA ground staff, it was simply to draw attention to the fact. NOT to comment on the desirability (or otherwise) of the action.
I'm sure it will save BA a bunch of money. The point is that over a thousand BA employees will be chopped and there's been practically FA in the papers about it.
Having said that, some are way overpaid and highly underworked/underinterested.
Gonna be a big Flybe op at GLA if this is correct. I think the folk who stay on at EDI for the RJ may come to wish they'd gone to Flybe- but who really knows?
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Iam on your side boss! Did you read the BA News that came out on Thursday? Only mention was by WW in his weekly column - about how bad the pension fund is - tell us something we dont know already... Then a small piece 2 pages further on in 'BA Connect Not A Part Of Our Strategy'. What is he all about? LHR will have a 'melt-down' when T5 opens. Already having to go cap-in-hand to the BAA at LHR to 'aquire' 38 aircraft parking stands at T3 due to lack of space at the 'Be all and end all of BAs empire - T5'. Aircraft going there include the B757 fleet as they are not containerised. Mind you, neither are the A319s...
I did also hear that the hangar in GLA was being 'checked out' recently to see if the Dash8-300 would fit inside which surprise surprise - IT DOES! SAAB were also over recently trying to off-load a few SAAB 2000s they cant get rid off... Very good rates and terms were being offered.
The flybe 'franchise' sounds good for LC, as they will get more work and more exposure to domestic and European routes on a more realistic scale. Think of the route network flybe would have!
PS - Next on flybes shopping list... bmi regional
Iam on your side boss! Did you read the BA News that came out on Thursday? Only mention was by WW in his weekly column - about how bad the pension fund is - tell us something we dont know already... Then a small piece 2 pages further on in 'BA Connect Not A Part Of Our Strategy'. What is he all about? LHR will have a 'melt-down' when T5 opens. Already having to go cap-in-hand to the BAA at LHR to 'aquire' 38 aircraft parking stands at T3 due to lack of space at the 'Be all and end all of BAs empire - T5'. Aircraft going there include the B757 fleet as they are not containerised. Mind you, neither are the A319s...
I did also hear that the hangar in GLA was being 'checked out' recently to see if the Dash8-300 would fit inside which surprise surprise - IT DOES! SAAB were also over recently trying to off-load a few SAAB 2000s they cant get rid off... Very good rates and terms were being offered.
The flybe 'franchise' sounds good for LC, as they will get more work and more exposure to domestic and European routes on a more realistic scale. Think of the route network flybe would have!
PS - Next on flybes shopping list... bmi regional
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There is nothing in the papers because officially there is no news.
Nobody will say it but undoubtedly they are waiting for a 'good day to bury bad news'. Bound to be one on the run up to Christmas.
Love that ps 1011.
We all know the boards off bmi and fbe met in JER some time ago and i know ABZ at one point considered the q400, but i cant see smb losing the bit of the company that makes a little cash until they've saved his bacon in LHR, no matter how much BA want it to happen.
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Nobody will say it but undoubtedly they are waiting for a 'good day to bury bad news'. Bound to be one on the run up to Christmas.
Love that ps 1011.
We all know the boards off bmi and fbe met in JER some time ago and i know ABZ at one point considered the q400, but i cant see smb losing the bit of the company that makes a little cash until they've saved his bacon in LHR, no matter how much BA want it to happen.
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BA will almost certainly NOT need ground staff at EDI GLA ABZ or MAN once the BAConnect/flybe deal finalises in MAR07. BA cannot (will not) justify the costs of staff, out-dated equipement renewal, accommodation, staff travel, pensions, uniforms etc etc... when a handling agent can come in, do the job and all for an agreed fee.
The MAN-JFK is a dedicated aircraft and needs in house support as there are no other RR powered 767s operated outside BA in the UK.
The LHR & LGW Shuttle night stops will also need attention.
BA ground staff are also contracted to other operators. This is a sizable income for BA. Are you saying that BA will cut ALL ties in the regions?