Singaporean self-sponsored CPL holders - where are you?
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Can anyone attest to what the Performance A paper consists of? Are there any study guides, outlines, or standards published? This is all I can find so far.
Could this be the equivalent of the 4 specfic aircraft performance sections of the FAA ATP Written exam? Also is the Singapore Air Law exam seperate and what is covered in that.
PERFORMANCE ‘A’
Ability to interpret and use performance data in conjunction with the appropriate performance
requirements of an aircraft eg rate and gradient of climb; obstacle clearance after take-off;
permissable take-off and landing weights for the distances available.
August 2000 APP A/26
The data and performance charts on which questions are based will be representative of the
performance of a multi-engine aircraft above 20,000 kg and not a specified type.
Performance data used in the examination will consist of a set of specimen performance charts (CAP
385) with appropriate supporting documents and appropriate performance requirements.
Ability to interpret and use performance data in conjunction with the appropriate performance
requirements of an aircraft eg rate and gradient of climb; obstacle clearance after take-off;
permissable take-off and landing weights for the distances available.
August 2000 APP A/26
The data and performance charts on which questions are based will be representative of the
performance of a multi-engine aircraft above 20,000 kg and not a specified type.
Performance data used in the examination will consist of a set of specimen performance charts (CAP
385) with appropriate supporting documents and appropriate performance requirements.
Could this be the equivalent of the 4 specfic aircraft performance sections of the FAA ATP Written exam? Also is the Singapore Air Law exam seperate and what is covered in that.
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just got back from holiday in Singapore. "FLIGHT EXPERIENCE" at the Singapore Flyer have a B737-800NG Simulator available to the public. I was told that they are looking for Instructors with min qualification of CPL, they provide training, a good job whilst your waiting to join an airline. Check out their website www.flightexperience.com.sg
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CAAS recognises CPL/IR ONLY from the following flight training "schools"
- oxford
- MFA
- SFC
- Massey
- perth, scotland (not sure about the name of the training school)
Does anybody know what exactly is the last option? the training school located in perth to be exact?
- oxford
- MFA
- SFC
- Massey
- perth, scotland (not sure about the name of the training school)
Does anybody know what exactly is the last option? the training school located in perth to be exact?
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hi hen c and others,
jetstar do take in low hours pilots as f/os, most of their new f/os are qantas cadets though at the moment they do have retired rsaf pilots joining them. they do consider taking low hours people e.g. one of their local female pilot hours was low when she joined.
as for tiger if one is really interested and meet min. requirements i suggest you pay their office a visit with your c.v. and follow up call once every two weeks.
jetstar do take in low hours pilots as f/os, most of their new f/os are qantas cadets though at the moment they do have retired rsaf pilots joining them. they do consider taking low hours people e.g. one of their local female pilot hours was low when she joined.
as for tiger if one is really interested and meet min. requirements i suggest you pay their office a visit with your c.v. and follow up call once every two weeks.
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Perth Scotland Perthshire - the Fair City
there was once SQ used to send cadets there, however, i'm not sure if the flying school is still around. Ask the Captain that are in their 50s should know about it.
"Sydney"s are also found outside OZ. keke
there was once SQ used to send cadets there, however, i'm not sure if the flying school is still around. Ask the Captain that are in their 50s should know about it.
"Sydney"s are also found outside OZ. keke
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Should i give up?
i'll make it straight to the point.
- got only 4 O levels back in 2003 national exams: failed my E maths and combined science and combined humanities
- went to ITE for higher nitec in mechatronics. got a place in poly in electronics engineering. graduating january 2009.
- gone for Class 1 Medical check up: pass.
- went for introductory flight at senai: twice
- current aviation enthusiast since as young as i can remember
- childhood dream of becoming an airline pilot one day
- eyesight L: 600 R: 700 astigmatism: less than 200 for both eyes.
- going NTU after NS.
- plans to take CPL/IR + ATPL from MFA or australia after NTU.
any advice people?
or just forgo the childhood dream?
cuz at this point of time, im not forgoing....
- SIA Pilot Wannabe -
- got only 4 O levels back in 2003 national exams: failed my E maths and combined science and combined humanities
- went to ITE for higher nitec in mechatronics. got a place in poly in electronics engineering. graduating january 2009.
- gone for Class 1 Medical check up: pass.
- went for introductory flight at senai: twice
- current aviation enthusiast since as young as i can remember
- childhood dream of becoming an airline pilot one day
- eyesight L: 600 R: 700 astigmatism: less than 200 for both eyes.
- going NTU after NS.
- plans to take CPL/IR + ATPL from MFA or australia after NTU.
any advice people?
or just forgo the childhood dream?
cuz at this point of time, im not forgoing....
- SIA Pilot Wannabe -
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abangjohnny, here's my $0.02 worth. If you can find a way, do an aviation degree in Australia that incorporates a CPL ME/IR. This way, you save time (if not money). With that, find work as a professional pilot - instructor, bush pilot, piston charter work. By the time you reach 26 y.o. (SQ's minimum age for Singaporean citizens) you would have plenty of hours to qualify for any of the regions airlines. DO NOT BE FIXATED with flying for a Singapore carrier. Take the opportunity to live and work in a different country. SQ takes direct entry captions (DEC) so you will have the opp to work for them in the future should you wish you.
I am a CASA PPL holder currently self studying for my CPL exams. I have 200 hours total time.
This is my opinion, I am no expert.
I am a CASA PPL holder currently self studying for my CPL exams. I have 200 hours total time.
This is my opinion, I am no expert.
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Hi all, I am a 18 year old Jc Student currently taking my A levels this end of the year. I tried applying for Rsaf Pilot vocation but failed the compass test and was rejected. Right now i am thinking of the route i should take. Should i apply for other vocations in Rsaf like ATC, or navigations and stuff to gain aviation exposure? ( Dont know if those vocation require us to sign on or not) I was thinking after my NS lets say if i were not in the air-force, i would be going overseas to get a CPL/ degree at the same time. I remember earlier post mentioning the various universities like Massy, ETC. I am not quite sure about the path i should take and i need advice from those who have been through that. If i am not wrong, the only way to be a pilot in singapore is through SIA cadetship programme or the Air-force. Since being a Air-force pilot is out of the question, whats next. By the way i also have not join SYFC and its too late now as its only applicable for JC and secondary students.
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shud loan money out....?
sonic69, thanks for the advice. truly appreciate it.
haha. yeah.
didnt actually set my sights solely on SIA though.
thought about emirates, tiger, airasia, jetstar, cathay pacific, etc.
and also garuda! haha.
yeah, the degree factor is a lil bit of a problem. finance wise that is.
u think it's a gud idea if i were to loan out S$100k++ from bank to go massey? education loan uh.
their bachelor of aviation (flying) can also be used to apply for other jobs requiring degree holders too right?
haha. yeah.
didnt actually set my sights solely on SIA though.
thought about emirates, tiger, airasia, jetstar, cathay pacific, etc.
and also garuda! haha.
yeah, the degree factor is a lil bit of a problem. finance wise that is.
u think it's a gud idea if i were to loan out S$100k++ from bank to go massey? education loan uh.
their bachelor of aviation (flying) can also be used to apply for other jobs requiring degree holders too right?
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Yup, as long as you give yourself a contingency plan should the airlines take some time to hire you as a SO or Junior FO.
Look at WA Aviation College also.
Unfortunately, Singapore does not have a rich aviation heritage and most youngsters have this impression that the ONLY way to become a professional pilot is SQ. Look at our young JC friend above. All they know is SYFC, RSAF, and SQ cadet program. Newsflash: In the rest of the world, getting into the airlines takes years of hard slog! And you pay your own way to get CPL ME/IR. Its well and good if you make it to the cadet program and SQ pays for your training first (you still have to pay back for the first few years of employment and be bonded).
Here's the reality of the situation, if you don't make it as an Airforce or SQ cadet pilot, you can still become a professional pilot by doing it the traditional (rest of the world) way.
1. AUD60,000+ to get CPL ME/IR (may be part of degree program or not. Up to you. With degree at least you have something to fall back on).
2. Complete ATPL exams.
3. Build up your hours - instructor, bush pilot.
4. Look for the next better pilot job - twin engine instructor, charter pilot, turboprop to jet.
5. Keep applying to airlines and maybe one day you'll fulfill your dream.
@Marcato, IMHO if you want to be a pilot, don't get sidetracked by being a flight dispatcher, atc controller etc. It doesn't make your journey to be a pilot any easier. Also, don't get hung up on being a pilot only in Singapore. What's wrong with cutting your teeth in Vietnam, Middle East, China, etc if they're willing to pay for your type rating?
Anyway, if you're a Spore citizen, you will not be eligible for SQ until you're 26 yo. Why wait around doing other mundane jobs? If I were you, I'd consider the Airline Pilot – J1 Internship Program Traditional Program ? Delta Connection Academy | Certified Flight Training.
In 2 years, you will have a FAA ATP with at least 1500hrs. You would also have been earning your pay as a pilot (instructor) for more than a year already. You will be a more attractive hire than a fresh CPL ME/IR w fATPL and 250hrs. You will only be about 23 yo then.
Anyway, what do I know. Don't take my word as gospel. But, look around and be open to options. Cheers.
Look at WA Aviation College also.
Unfortunately, Singapore does not have a rich aviation heritage and most youngsters have this impression that the ONLY way to become a professional pilot is SQ. Look at our young JC friend above. All they know is SYFC, RSAF, and SQ cadet program. Newsflash: In the rest of the world, getting into the airlines takes years of hard slog! And you pay your own way to get CPL ME/IR. Its well and good if you make it to the cadet program and SQ pays for your training first (you still have to pay back for the first few years of employment and be bonded).
Here's the reality of the situation, if you don't make it as an Airforce or SQ cadet pilot, you can still become a professional pilot by doing it the traditional (rest of the world) way.
1. AUD60,000+ to get CPL ME/IR (may be part of degree program or not. Up to you. With degree at least you have something to fall back on).
2. Complete ATPL exams.
3. Build up your hours - instructor, bush pilot.
4. Look for the next better pilot job - twin engine instructor, charter pilot, turboprop to jet.
5. Keep applying to airlines and maybe one day you'll fulfill your dream.
@Marcato, IMHO if you want to be a pilot, don't get sidetracked by being a flight dispatcher, atc controller etc. It doesn't make your journey to be a pilot any easier. Also, don't get hung up on being a pilot only in Singapore. What's wrong with cutting your teeth in Vietnam, Middle East, China, etc if they're willing to pay for your type rating?
Anyway, if you're a Spore citizen, you will not be eligible for SQ until you're 26 yo. Why wait around doing other mundane jobs? If I were you, I'd consider the Airline Pilot – J1 Internship Program Traditional Program ? Delta Connection Academy | Certified Flight Training.
In 2 years, you will have a FAA ATP with at least 1500hrs. You would also have been earning your pay as a pilot (instructor) for more than a year already. You will be a more attractive hire than a fresh CPL ME/IR w fATPL and 250hrs. You will only be about 23 yo then.
Anyway, what do I know. Don't take my word as gospel. But, look around and be open to options. Cheers.
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Modular CPL - Australia
Let's look at 1 way of getting a CPL ME/IR fATPL in a modular fashion. (I feel compelled to share this only because I feel I can help a few young wannabes make a more informed decision).
Disclaimer: Please do not reply to this post as to whether you agree or disagree this should be the way to go. I am not interested. I propose this as a hypothetical course of action. Also, do NOT tell me that CASA CPL is not recognised by CAAS. There are other airlines besides Singapore carriers that very much accept the CASA licence.
1. Apply to CASA for your ARN (Aviation Reference Number. Your Australian aviation IC number lah!) Free. Download form on CASA website.
2. Get your CASA Class 1 Medical done. Medora Clinic, 115 Upper Paya Lebar Road. If you don't pass, no need to talk anymore. You CANNOT be a professional pilot.
3. Self study for your theory exams. There is no requirement for groundschool. Look at CASA website for more info. DO NOT PM ME! Don't be so lazy.
4. Save up for your first trip to Perth to complete your PPL within 2 months fulltime. No visa required.
5. Come back and build your hours in Malaysia until you're close to 200hrs. All the time working and saving money to feed your flying addiction. While building hours, study for 7 CPL papers.
6. When you have enough money again, go to Perth and complete the CPL exams, some flying training and check ride.
7. If have enough money, complete ME/IR at same time. If not, another time.
8. Self study 7 ATPL subjects. Take exams.
9. Bombard the airlines with your resume every 2 months. One day, they may just call you for an interview.
10. Fly in the right seat of an airliner.
Disclaimer: Please do not reply to this post as to whether you agree or disagree this should be the way to go. I am not interested. I propose this as a hypothetical course of action. Also, do NOT tell me that CASA CPL is not recognised by CAAS. There are other airlines besides Singapore carriers that very much accept the CASA licence.
1. Apply to CASA for your ARN (Aviation Reference Number. Your Australian aviation IC number lah!) Free. Download form on CASA website.
2. Get your CASA Class 1 Medical done. Medora Clinic, 115 Upper Paya Lebar Road. If you don't pass, no need to talk anymore. You CANNOT be a professional pilot.
3. Self study for your theory exams. There is no requirement for groundschool. Look at CASA website for more info. DO NOT PM ME! Don't be so lazy.
4. Save up for your first trip to Perth to complete your PPL within 2 months fulltime. No visa required.
5. Come back and build your hours in Malaysia until you're close to 200hrs. All the time working and saving money to feed your flying addiction. While building hours, study for 7 CPL papers.
6. When you have enough money again, go to Perth and complete the CPL exams, some flying training and check ride.
7. If have enough money, complete ME/IR at same time. If not, another time.
8. Self study 7 ATPL subjects. Take exams.
9. Bombard the airlines with your resume every 2 months. One day, they may just call you for an interview.
10. Fly in the right seat of an airliner.