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Cathay Pacific Cadet Pilot Programme

Old 6th May 2012, 09:01
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Even after you get all your licenses, you still have to build up hours bush flying. No thanks to that.

I love to fly and my dream is to become a pilot. If CX doesn't hire me, it is all good. At least I took the chance and now I can move on to something else and do my accounting.
So you dream of becoming a pilot but would not lower yourself to fly in the bush.

You love to fly but if you don't get into CX you would then give up and become an accountant.

At least you took the chance? What chance, applying to CX, big whoopidy doo, well done in following your dream.

Pathetic.
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Old 6th May 2012, 10:10
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@sloppyJoe or anybody else who might have the answer

How do you know, that ab-inition programme is closed for non HKID holders? Because from what I can see on CX page, it says:

Cadet Pilot Programme a 61-week programme for applicants with low experience and no ICAO CPL. Preference for this programme will be given to HKID holders.

It only says that HKID holders have a preference to this programme, it says nothing about not closing the programme for others.
And forum member Enae said 2 pages back that one of the recruiters confirmed, what I just wrote.

So please, where did you find out this news that Cadet Pilot Programme is closed?
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Old 6th May 2012, 10:13
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Alli1552,
At the moment the HKPA is constant at 10K per month. It increases with rank.

FO gets 14K, SFO get 18K, Captain gets 24k

As of the 01/05/2012, the SO salary per month is below.

Year 1 = 36,225K

Year 2 = 40,574K

Year 3 = 45,443K

Year 4 = 50,896K

Hope this helps,

~ cx-hopeful
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Old 6th May 2012, 10:20
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Brandon8

A little suggestion for you buddy

Before you go into CX interview, you should really think of 'Why you wanna be a pilot?' Because from what I can tell, you wanna be a pilot or work for CX just because they are a good airline, offer you training, give you some good $$$ etc etc. Honestly, I really dont see whats the problem of flying in a bush. This is what real flying is about. You navigate you fly on your hand. It is an experience and a journey of a pilot career. I mean if you just wanna WATCH two pilots in front of you and fly the jet, probably you like to fly as a passenger more than a pilot and being a pilot is probably not a career that you looking for....

Other than that, if you really really love flying. Or i should use the word dedicate, no matter how limited is your financial situation, you will still use every cent in your account and pursuit your dream mate. Because you love flying and its worth it! But I really dont see the passionate from you. I think a lot of pilots parents are not Bill Gate or Richard Branson. So they obviously did some hard work and fought for their career.

Just some final suggestion for you interview, if you say all this stuffs in CX interview I am sure you wont even get pass stage 1 and you should continue you accounting career. Because they want someone who is PASSIONATE for flying. And i really cant see those things on you. Or even though you fake yourself in the interview and say different things, I feel really sad for you because you gonna do something that you are not passionate enough. Your life is really pathetic. And theres no way you can become a good pilot.

Best of luck
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Old 6th May 2012, 10:28
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It is closed due to immigration issues. I believe those who had interviews prior to the HKG immigration department ruling will be allowed to continue but there are to be no new non HKID card holders accepted onto the ab-initio course.

The whole point of the cadet program (20 ish years ago) was to give local Hong Kong people the opportunity to become a pilot. Everyone else employed as pilots at CX had experience that could not be found locally and so they were issued working permits, something you are not given if the experience can be found locally.

The international guys previously hired onto the ab-initio course were seen by the immigration department to be in breach of the rule as they had no qualifications or past experience that could not be found locally. They were in fact totally unqualified for a job as a pilot. Quite rightly the immigration department said that this is not allowed as there are plenty of unqualified locals to go onto this course.

I know this as work at CX. I am sorry to bring bad news but it is fair, would you like it if there was such a course in your country but most people hired were from the other side of the world?
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Old 6th May 2012, 10:41
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It's almost closed buddy.
If you successfully pass the flight grading, you will find yourself on an INDEFINITE waiting list (which could possibly keep you waiting life-long). That means you may never join the CPP in spite of the description on CX website.
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Old 6th May 2012, 10:46
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That's why I said this buddy.

It is closed due to immigration issues. I believe those who had interviews prior to the HKG immigration department ruling will be allowed to continue but there are to be no new non HKID card holders accepted onto the ab-initio course.
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Old 6th May 2012, 10:50
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Thank you for the explanation, I will consider other options, but still I might try to apply for this and see what happens.
Speaking about this, is it possible to get HKID if I was not born there?

When did they close this programme? Because on FT Adelaide page is news, that group of cadet pilots just finished the ab-inition programme few days ago and the programme started on 5 March 2011, pilots are from 7 different countries, so I believe not all of them can be HKID holders.

Thank you for help
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Old 6th May 2012, 10:54
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Thanks :-)
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Old 6th May 2012, 11:13
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I would still apply if I were you also (very unlikely but things can change).

It was a few months ago when I heard about it. If the course was an advanced entry one on the FTA website CX are still hiring guys for this course who have experience without a HKID. If it was ab-initio these guys/girls would have been going through the selection process about 18 months ago, so before the ruling from the HKG immigration dept. It could also be due to them growing up in HKG but being another nationality, a permanent HKID does not allow you automatically to get a HKG passport so they would still be another nationality.

Yes you could get a (non permanent) HKID if you got a job in HKG due to having experience not found locally required for the position. After living in HKG for 7 years you could then get a permanent HKID and be able to apply for the ab-initio course. There is no shortcut so this is not a viable option.
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Old 6th May 2012, 11:14
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@SloppyJoe

Sorry mate my post referred to previous posts...
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Old 6th May 2012, 14:03
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Post Flight grading...

Hi,
if someone is going for the advanced entry flight grading next week and want to share a few infos just pm me.
I'll be leaving from London on the 10th.
All the best.
C84
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Old 6th May 2012, 15:42
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I stand corrected, after reading the DFO update it seems no hiring freeze for cadets, but for all other positions in the company.
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Old 6th May 2012, 19:34
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GTC58,

are u sure? I wish this is true, where did u read that? What is DFO update?

Thanks
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Old 7th May 2012, 06:21
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Mathematics

Hi guys,
I'm new to this thread. I was wondering if anyone knows what the stage 2 mathematics test involves. An example question would be really helpful. I don't have a stage 2 interview as of now, but I am hoping I will get one.

Thanks guys
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Old 7th May 2012, 07:57
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Hello

Hi Gents.
I have a Stage one interview June 7th for advanced entry.
Does anyone have any gouge for me who was recently interviewed?

Thanks.
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Old 7th May 2012, 09:30
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@Holycow123,

Hi,

Where will be your interview?

Can i ask you, when did you apply for AE programme and when did they answer to you?

Thanks,

Paul
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Old 7th May 2012, 11:50
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if HKG immigration department ruling is effective as of now, how abt those dont possess HKID yet already under training in FTA? they cant fly as SO even after getting their wings?

i guess CX has ntg left to choose for now. perhaps then packages will improve from here.
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Old 7th May 2012, 12:50
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- Those who are undergoing their training @FTA will get the HKID because they did their selection a while ago (before this interception of the HK gvt).

- It is only a little bit exciting for the guys who are in the selection (without HKID and who are going for the 61wks course).

It is really going to take a while to join CX as a 61wks cadet. There are rumours going that maybe those with a Aviation Degree maybe can get a seat at the 61wks course. But that is going to take a while too to implement this.

Just go get your licences on your own money and don't thrust Cathay (or any other airline)! Move your a**!!
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Old 7th May 2012, 22:32
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Originally Posted by captain.weird
- There are rumours going that maybe those with a Aviation Degree maybe can get a seat at the 61wks course.
No such thing. The HKSAR is P!SSED at CX for trying this on, and have made it clear that zero time inductees are to be HKSAR ID holders. Period.

The advice not to trust any airline is absolutely valid, though. Don't sell your soul to these pirates.
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