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SIA Cadet Pilot - All Batches, Merged

Old 31st Oct 2012, 01:50
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From my knowledge ATC will reply with your position in circuit eg. No.1 etc and pilot acknowledge ur sequence. On finals pilot will call out finals ATC would either reply for a continue approach or a clearance for touch n go or full stop. If you don't receive any clearance I think a go around would be the right thing to do.
Base on my limited circuit training experience
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Old 31st Oct 2012, 02:35
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thank you eerie,

That would be the norm, if no clearances is given - a go around. However should a situation arises where u called downwind position and no acknowledgement or reply was given - is this within rules and regulation? can the atc choose to reply only on finals?

looking up icao 4444, chapter 7 (7-9) it seems the clearance to land can be given between mid downwind all the way to final. but no details of acknowledging downwind calls are given.

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Old 31st Oct 2012, 12:20
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When you make this downwind call, are you the only aircraft in circuit? I m not familiar with the procedure in the airport you operate from. I did circuits in WMKJ before but I was told my sequence cos there was traffic when i join for circuit. I guess since you re the only aircraft and no other traffic joining the pattern ATC might have ignore you? From my experience, ATC would acknowledge your report.
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Old 31st Oct 2012, 14:12
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yeah thats what i thought too... and no i was not alone...2 in circuit, and the local atc procedure indicates that they can choose to not reply your downwind call, however my situation was that, i was asked to call upon establishing downwind, which in mind was a clearance limit - so there was ambiguity.

My question remains though if its a standard practice else where, I seem to be getting a variation of answers - and if anyone can shed some light on this

atm i'm skimming through ICAO doc 4444 ATM/501 printed 2005...

just thought it might bring some activity to this thread, though its not exactly the place haha.
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Old 20th Nov 2012, 11:50
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Waiting for OBS call up

Hi there! Greetings PPRuNe netizens.
I have passed Medical this year and waiting for OBS call up along with a few candidates of my round.

Looking for good reading materials in preparation for the much anticipated call up. Any title to recommend?
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Old 20th Nov 2012, 23:17
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Read up on all ATPL subjects by Oxford Aviation.
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Old 21st Nov 2012, 00:18
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Hi Essopeus,

Do you mind sharing when did you do your first interview?

Cheers
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Old 21st Nov 2012, 03:01
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Thanks, flying.monkeyz! Will search for some Oxford Aviaion books.

Yannisoar, my Round 1 was back in Nov 2011. Final round & medical check in March 2012. Cleared for Class 1 fitness and awaiting further instruction from SQ.
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Old 21st Nov 2012, 09:12
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flying monkey, is there any update? didn't know they did medical for candidates lately. is this a glimpse of hope?
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Old 21st Nov 2012, 11:23
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Nope... things are still crappy...
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Old 22nd Nov 2012, 06:48
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hello fellow netizen,

Hey Essopeus,

I personally enjoyed the Principles of Flight book 1 and Meteorology book 9. Should keep you occupied for a while. Navigation on book 10 too if you have the time. -> oxford academy syllabus.

As for PPL level flying, i think the Flight Sim X has pretty informative course on the basics you'll learn on handling a light aircraft. Dont forget communications book 14 also for the lingo and phonetics. From simple straight and level, selective scans to landing. The feel isnt really there but should give you a very decent idea how things are done. Cut your learning curve if it does come down later on. All in all, its all fun to get along by while waiting.

PS: also u might wanna read on the basic T instruments on what does what and how they work to better grasp the idea of selective scanning.


I'm sure its all said and done b4 somewhere, all in all just my two cents... hope it helps. Good day.
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Old 1st Dec 2012, 11:33
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Thanks godspear87!

I'm sure it's good advice even if it's been mentioned befor and hence worth another mention or two.

Will look into some books to better use my time in preparation and whilst waiting for SQ to call up for OBS.
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Old 5th Dec 2012, 09:46
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I'm about to finish NS soon and I'm 22 this year.

What should I do next if I'm hoping to apply for SIA? I have the qualifications up to double dip.

And about how long before I set flight if say the current "drought" ends by the time I become a full fledged pilot? (drought referring to the surplus pilots but no flights to take..supposedly its true)
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Old 5th Dec 2012, 22:15
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Get a degree and find a job.
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Old 6th Dec 2012, 01:46
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Old 6th Dec 2012, 05:55
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Stop being an arrogrant prick and listen to his advice. You asked for help. He gave you sound advice.

Ignore at your own farking peril. You wont get anywhere near a cockpit with that rolling eyes mentality.
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Old 6th Dec 2012, 07:09
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I don't know how a rolling-eyes smiley is being arrogant. I used that smiley because the supposed sound advice given by him was to "get a degree and find a job" which is honestly very ambiguous to the extend where I understood it say "get a degree and find other jobs. Forget about being a pilot". I would tend to believe a sound advice would be something with tad much more explanation as to why is one recommending to get a degree and find a job.

And for you to barge right in calling me an arrogant prick when I wasn't being one, what does that make you? How one smiley can make you lunge out at somebody verbally, I think you've got issues.

Jeez why the uptightness around here?
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Old 6th Dec 2012, 17:57
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Ignore him, he is nothing but an old snob who could not make it himself and tends to put down young aspiring pilots.

As far as the cadet pilot program is concerned, nothing is happening for atleast the next 6-8 months.
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Old 7th Dec 2012, 03:11
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jber, what flyingmokey is saying is that there is no recruitment so why not make good use of time and get a degree. Besides you are under age to apply. You are 22 and min age is 26.
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Old 7th Dec 2012, 04:36
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Competition is tough. Your CV better looks more superior compared to others if you want a shot at it.
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