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Search: Posts Made By: Undercover
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Forum: ATC Issues
20th Feb 2003, 10:45
Replies: 46
Views: 5,282
Posted By Undercover

"From my own perspective and since moving to NERC...

"From my own perspective and since moving to NERC I have had no fam flights, no liaison visits, no courses, just continuous and unrelenting work. "

~~ Is that not what you're paid to do?!?! ;)
...
Forum: ATC Issues
23rd Jan 2003, 11:25
Replies: 14
Views: 1,098
Posted By Undercover

To me I think the question is why you dislike...

To me I think the question is why you dislike college...

If it's just down to the subject matter not inspiring you as you are only interested in ATC, then fine... but if it's simply a dislike of...
Forum: ATC Issues
23rd Jan 2003, 11:17
Replies: 8
Views: 1,250
Posted By Undercover

Yep... and maybe we'd all have had to take a...

Yep... and maybe we'd all have had to take a bigger hit on work practices, terms and conditions and head count in order to pay for it.

Fantastic idea.
Forum: ATC Issues
15th Jan 2003, 10:13
Replies: 7
Views: 1,156
Posted By Undercover

Not for much longer they don't!!! :p

Not for much longer they don't!!! :p
Forum: ATC Issues
3rd Jan 2003, 13:51
Replies: 14
Views: 1,357
Posted By Undercover

I applaud this move... but I also agree with...

I applaud this move... but I also agree with equity for all.

I look forward to the introduction of non-parental flexible drinking hours.

Those with kids can cover the mornings and evenings when...
Forum: ATC Issues
11th Dec 2002, 08:56
Replies: 9
Views: 1,098
Posted By Undercover

Well NATS are making a donation and I know my...

Well NATS are making a donation and I know my manager is adding a personal contribution to this...

Given that they actually have to give us absolutely hee-haw, I'd say that's pretty good.

.......
Forum: ATC Issues
14th Nov 2002, 15:46
Replies: 26
Views: 3,674
Posted By Undercover

And if you vote in favour of a 15 minute illegal...

And if you vote in favour of a 15 minute illegal strike.. do you think they will hand their negotiated bonuses back???

And how many of you would hand it back if it was you who had it written in...
Forum: ATC Issues
12th Nov 2002, 15:00
Replies: 15
Views: 1,559
Posted By Undercover

The Pension contribution holiday has NO effect...

The Pension contribution holiday has NO effect on your pension or what you are entitled to.

There is one big pot of money, from which we will all be due our share. The company is responsible for...
Forum: ATC Issues
12th Nov 2002, 14:51
Replies: 26
Views: 3,674
Posted By Undercover

You can't withdraw labour as a protest to someone...

You can't withdraw labour as a protest to someone else getting something you aren't. That's just childish.

As to the criticism that just accepting it is contributing to poor management... well......
Forum: ATC Issues
11th Nov 2002, 14:38
Replies: 26
Views: 3,674
Posted By Undercover

Oh come ON!! A couple of executives get a...

Oh come ON!!

A couple of executives get a nice big bonus... STOP PRESS!!! :rolleyes:

Yes, NATS and every other company that actually has a board of directors!! Executives get their bonuses,...
Forum: ATC Issues
30th Oct 2002, 13:01
Replies: 15
Views: 1,710
Posted By Undercover

Got more money than you were owed this month??...

Got more money than you were owed this month?? poor guys!!! :rolleyes:

And I'm sure if the EP dept. messed up and UNDER-paid you next month you'd be happy to wait till Dec 2003 to set it right!!!...
Forum: ATC Issues
8th Oct 2002, 13:54
Replies: 11
Views: 1,825
Posted By Undercover

Pay day... :rolleyes: ... :D

Pay day... :rolleyes: ... :D
Forum: ATC Issues
8th Oct 2002, 12:35
Replies: 11
Views: 1,825
Posted By Undercover

Pay Deal Latest

It's a "YES"
Forum: ATC Issues
8th Oct 2002, 10:50
Replies: 5
Views: 1,075
Posted By Undercover

ATCOs: October All others: October if you...

ATCOs: October

All others: October if you vote yes. If not, who knows!!
Forum: ATC Issues
8th Oct 2002, 10:46
Replies: 90
Views: 9,279
Posted By Undercover

Just a couple of things... 1. If the...

Just a couple of things...

1. If the engineers rejected this time, then the whole offer to ATCE, ATSA & MSG would be scrapped and back to square one... but the ATCO deal will go through this month...
Forum: ATC Issues
3rd Oct 2002, 14:53
Replies: 90
Views: 9,279
Posted By Undercover

I heard the same story... As I heard it the ATCO...

I heard the same story... As I heard it the ATCO negotiators weren't happy that after smugly announcing they'd now bled NATS dry to get their improved deal, more money was being found for non-ATCOs....
Forum: ATC Issues
1st Oct 2002, 15:15
Replies: 43
Views: 5,442
Posted By Undercover

Just in case it's still relevant and/or...

Just in case it's still relevant and/or required...

Trainee ATCO starting salary will be £17,652 once the pay deal goes through... moving on to just over £18,000 with the next rise in October.....
Forum: ATC Issues
25th Sep 2002, 13:40
Replies: 11
Views: 1,562
Posted By Undercover

ATCO reps agreed to start these attendances when...

ATCO reps agreed to start these attendances when management "promised" that the ATCO pay deal would DEFINITELY go through in October salary...

It's true that there's no guarantee that all parts...
Forum: ATC Issues
20th Sep 2002, 09:20
Replies: 80
Views: 9,439
Posted By Undercover

Surely the best thing for all is to be unified...

Surely the best thing for all is to be unified and represented as employees of NATS - regardless of grade, location etc.

An operational/non-operational split is still just that... a split... and...
Forum: ATC Issues
19th Sep 2002, 12:38
Replies: 9
Views: 2,165
Posted By Undercover

NATS is in a similar situation of...

NATS is in a similar situation of responsibility... If the fund surplus disappears then the trustees will instruct NATS to commence contributions again at a level the trustees will set.

If you're...
Forum: ATC Issues
19th Sep 2002, 09:02
Replies: 80
Views: 9,439
Posted By Undercover

The "voluntary severence scheme" is an...

The "voluntary severence scheme" is an interesting one... since we already have screeds of agreements relating to redundancy, retirement, resignation etc.

My guess is that this is aimed at the...
Forum: ATC Issues
17th Sep 2002, 07:53
Replies: 80
Views: 9,439
Posted By Undercover

Well... I've now seen the "improved" offer to all...

Well... I've now seen the "improved" offer to all non-ATCOs... and it is better... but still less than the ATCOs were offered on basic, with a few bits and pieces added to throw a few bungs at those...
Forum: ATC Issues
16th Sep 2002, 12:59
Replies: 80
Views: 9,439
Posted By Undercover

Maybe there's hope for us after all! As a...

Maybe there's hope for us after all!

As a certain Mancunian monkey man used to sing, "Love Spreads"



...can't we all just.... get along... ? :D
Forum: ATC Issues
16th Sep 2002, 10:25
Replies: 80
Views: 9,439
Posted By Undercover

Thanks for the biblical lesson .4... just...

Thanks for the biblical lesson .4...

just one small detail....

It was a conditional acceptance. The improved offer to others invoked that condition. So it did it's job.

Just don't like the...
Forum: ATC Issues
12th Sep 2002, 13:27
Replies: 80
Views: 9,439
Posted By Undercover

As soon as I work out exactly what it is I do,...

As soon as I work out exactly what it is I do, I'll be sure and let you know. :D
Forum: ATC Issues
11th Sep 2002, 10:54
Replies: 80
Views: 9,439
Posted By Undercover

A little pedantic Big Nose... ? ;) Whatever...

A little pedantic Big Nose... ? ;)

Whatever the diplomatic wording, all of the TU negotiators agreed to go back to their respective BEC with a positive message that this was the best they were...
Forum: ATC Issues
9th Sep 2002, 15:58
Replies: 80
Views: 9,439
Posted By Undercover

I'm afraid sector8 is right... sorry if that...

I'm afraid sector8 is right... sorry if that doesn't fit into the "ATCOs always right" world...

When the original deal was done, all TU parties INCLUDING ATCO branch agreed to recommend a "yes"...
Forum: ATC Issues
9th Sep 2002, 15:25
Replies: 12
Views: 1,678
Posted By Undercover

Hmm... viscount asks to be insulted... everyone...

Hmm... viscount asks to be insulted... everyone thinks he/she's a diddy... everyone then responds with suitable insults... hmm... :p

ATCbabe... you obviously didn't see my ad in the lonely hearts...
Forum: ATC Issues
5th Sep 2002, 10:45
Replies: 80
Views: 9,439
Posted By Undercover

Cuddles... Would be nice to think the...

Cuddles...

Would be nice to think the savings from the pensions holiday were being stashed away for a rainy day and could be dished out in the pay rise... but I'm afraid that money - like all the...
Forum: ATC Issues
4th Sep 2002, 13:20
Replies: 80
Views: 9,439
Posted By Undercover

Billy Boy - a small point... but still... ...

Billy Boy - a small point... but still...

Before PPP this company was is an extrememly healthy financial state. All our creditors were paid well within time and the government got a nice little...
Forum: ATC Issues
4th Sep 2002, 07:36
Replies: 80
Views: 9,439
Posted By Undercover

The fact is PCS and Engineers were right to...

The fact is PCS and Engineers were right to believe there was no more money in the pot... There isn't!! They don't have the money to pay for the increased ATCO offer. Simple as that.

As mentioned...
Forum: ATC Issues
3rd Sep 2002, 12:32
Replies: 90
Views: 9,279
Posted By Undercover

Jocko... we are all well paid for what we do in...

Jocko... we are all well paid for what we do in this company... that's the reality.

The job of an ATCO is a pressured and responsible one... but you earn more than the average policeman, fire...
Forum: ATC Issues
3rd Sep 2002, 10:49
Replies: 80
Views: 9,439
Posted By Undercover

Don't wish to rain on the parade of the ATCOs...

Don't wish to rain on the parade of the ATCOs among you who are now looking forward to a bit of a rise and some back-pay...

Since the engineers and PCS are still in dispute with management, have...
Forum: ATC Issues
28th Aug 2002, 14:56
Replies: 90
Views: 9,279
Posted By Undercover

I'd say less faith and more cynicism... ...

I'd say less faith and more cynicism...


then again... cock up sounds more likely doesn't it!
Forum: ATC Issues
28th Aug 2002, 09:19
Replies: 90
Views: 9,279
Posted By Undercover

Yes... let's negotiate seperate deals for each...

Yes... let's negotiate seperate deals for each employee with consideration to their skills, experience, location, difficulty to replace, sickness record, hair colour, cup size and/or inside leg...
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