Ethiopian airliner down in Africa
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I would go to the manufacturer of the FDR and CVR and take some experts with, which do participate in the examination and restoration of the content. Should be plenty of experts around in the different national agencies.
Then get a copy of the digital content and take it to a safe place. From that on any tempering with the evidence is impossible and can always be proven. So the critical path is until you can read out the digital content. You can be sure that Boeing, GE, Safran and all the current Max users have a high interest in a timely and honest investigation. Is enough money at stake here.
Then get a copy of the digital content and take it to a safe place. From that on any tempering with the evidence is impossible and can always be proven. So the critical path is until you can read out the digital content. You can be sure that Boeing, GE, Safran and all the current Max users have a high interest in a timely and honest investigation. Is enough money at stake here.
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From: Milan
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Garneau said the decision to issue the safety notice was made after his department received new data suggesting a similarity between the Ethiopian Airlines crash and another deadly crash off Indonesia in October. He pointed out, however, that the information was new and unproven.
"There are — and I hasten to say not conclusive — but there are similarities," he said. "My departmental officials continue to monitor the situation and I will not hesitate to take swift action should we discover any additional safety issues."
"There are — and I hasten to say not conclusive — but there are similarities," he said. "My departmental officials continue to monitor the situation and I will not hesitate to take swift action should we discover any additional safety issues."
Yesterday while catching up on this thread after a trans-Pacific flight, I saw an Air Canada Max taxiing in at Vancouver. Since I had not seen one before, I wandered over to its gate and discovered it was my ride to Calgary! I just snuck in under the wire!
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From: Milan
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Am I right in thinking that EASA had concerns about the certification of the MCAS system but in the end decided to take the lead from the FAA?
If that is true and it turns out that MCAS was also involved in the ET-302 crash, Boeing’s problems could be much worse than first thought.
I wouldn’t be surprised if those MAXs grounded outside the US yesterday and today, may still be on the ground long after Boeing’s software fix in April.
If that is true and it turns out that MCAS was also involved in the ET-302 crash, Boeing’s problems could be much worse than first thought.
I wouldn’t be surprised if those MAXs grounded outside the US yesterday and today, may still be on the ground long after Boeing’s software fix in April.
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From: NI
Perhaps they do but just haven't hooked the tubes up to the right taps.
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From: london
Finally US ground aircraft
President Donald Trump has issued an emergency order to ground all Boeing 737 Max aircraft following the crash of an Ethiopian Airlines jet on Sunday.
The Federal Aviation Administration had previously held out while many countries banned the aircraft from flying over their airspace.
President Trump said the planes would now be grounded until Boeing "comes up with a solution".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47562727
The Federal Aviation Administration had previously held out while many countries banned the aircraft from flying over their airspace.
President Trump said the planes would now be grounded until Boeing "comes up with a solution".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47562727
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From: Thailand
I would go to the manufacturer of the FDR and CVR and take some experts with, which do participate in the examination and restoration of the content. Should be plenty of experts around in the different national agencies.
Then get a copy of the digital content and take it to a safe place. From that on any tempering with the evidence is impossible and can always be proven. So the critical path is until you can read out the digital content. You can be sure that Boeing, GE, Safran and all the current Max users have a high interest in a timely and honest investigation. Is enough money at stake here.
Then get a copy of the digital content and take it to a safe place. From that on any tempering with the evidence is impossible and can always be proven. So the critical path is until you can read out the digital content. You can be sure that Boeing, GE, Safran and all the current Max users have a high interest in a timely and honest investigation. Is enough money at stake here.
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But on your large and congested islands at least you are now safe from the risk of an overflight going wrong. By the way, you call it UK CI airspace, but isn't it pretty much all inside the Brest FIR?
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And airlines now are starting to claim some refunds...
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-e...-idUSKBN1QU0S9
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-e...-idUSKBN1QU0S9
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So I guess that must signal the end of the FAA as it is today. Even their ultimate boss is doing their job for them.
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Boeing's latest response..."abundance of caution"
[QUOTE]Boeing statement on grounding move
Boeing continues to have full confidence in the safety of the 737 MAX. However, after consultation with the US Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), the US National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), and aviation authorities and its customers around the world, Boeing has determined - out of an abundance of caution and in order to reassure the flying public of the aircraft’s safety - to recommend to the FAA the temporary suspension of operations of the entire global fleet of 371 737 MAX aircraft.
Boeing continues to have full confidence in the safety of the 737 MAX. However, after consultation with the US Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), the US National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), and aviation authorities and its customers around the world, Boeing has determined - out of an abundance of caution and in order to reassure the flying public of the aircraft’s safety - to recommend to the FAA the temporary suspension of operations of the entire global fleet of 371 737 MAX aircraft.
[QUOTE]Boeing statement on grounding move
Boeing continues to have full confidence in the safety of the 737 MAX. However, after consultation with the US Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), the US National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), and aviation authorities and its customers around the world, Boeing has determined - out of an abundance of caution and in order to reassure the flying public of the aircraft’s safety - to recommend to the FAA the temporary suspension of operations of the entire global fleet of 371 737 MAX aircraft.
Boeing continues to have full confidence in the safety of the 737 MAX. However, after consultation with the US Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), the US National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), and aviation authorities and its customers around the world, Boeing has determined - out of an abundance of caution and in order to reassure the flying public of the aircraft’s safety - to recommend to the FAA the temporary suspension of operations of the entire global fleet of 371 737 MAX aircraft.