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Old 31st May 2023, 14:49
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Unbelievable.

Hill can change anything it wants at its own discretion and for any reason, and delay deliveries indefinitely, with neither consequences for Hill, nor compensation for the customer?

Why would anyone want to sign that? ​​​​​​​
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Old 31st May 2023, 15:09
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Old 31st May 2023, 17:14
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Is that a picture of you 206 jock? You look great. You must be fun to be around.. Can I co-pilot you? Will you marry me? Ha, crotte, my wife is back, got to go….
Are those pearls real or fake?… Oh, never mind,
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Old 31st May 2023, 17:38
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Originally Posted by hargreaves99
Originally Posted by admikar
I'll admit I am not a prodigy regarding mechanics, but can someone explain what is so revolutionary about this rotor system?
It looks a lot what Airbus calls spheriflex rotor head?
I see absolutely nothing notable or revolutionary about this rotor system whatsoever to preclude Hill from discussing its design and manufacture progress, particularly since he claims IP issues prevent disclosure when the patents are publicly available.

Red flag #6,347
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Old 2nd Jun 2023, 08:24
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"this thing is getting real, you better come and join us"


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https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-n...ops-700-orders

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Options include in-seat electric heaters and air-conditioned seat ventilation; a refrigerated center console compartment beneath the armrest cushion to chill drinks and snacks; and a power supply for each passenger’s tablet computer with audio streamed directly to passenger headsets. The audio fully integrates with the digital cockpit and onboard audio system.

Each passenger seat can support rear-facing, forward-facing, and booster seats for children. Other options include a pilot-operable folding blade system, a Helimove electric ground handling system, Home Base secure wireless link to power hangar doors, skids or wheeled gear, and an emergency float system. The digital cockpit can include synthetic vision. A two-axis autopilot is standard, a four-axis is optional.

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Old 2nd Jun 2023, 08:42
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We got WiFi and a fridge but no engine..........
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Old 2nd Jun 2023, 08:53
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To be honest, these days wi-fi is considered a basic human right and many people under the age of 40 can't function without it



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Old 2nd Jun 2023, 10:06
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That's all great, but how much will it weigh with all those options?
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Old 2nd Jun 2023, 13:52
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MTOW 1650 kg
minimum 140 kt cruise
175 gallons of fuel (5 hours)
can hover at 10,000 feet at MTOW




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Old 2nd Jun 2023, 15:17
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Originally Posted by hargreaves99
MTOW 1650 kg
minimum 140 kt cruise
175 gallons of fuel (5 hours)
can hover at 10,000 feet at MTOW




https://youtu.be/P2PmO5fVHww
I know that. What I would like to know is how much all those nice options listed above will eat into usefull load?
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Old 2nd Jun 2023, 17:11
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I guess if you have enough power to hover at max weight, at 10,000 feet, a few kilos for a fridge isn't going to make much difference?
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Old 2nd Jun 2023, 17:40
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Originally Posted by hargreaves99
I guess if you have enough power to hover at max weight, at 10,000 feet, a few kilos for a fridge isn't going to make much difference?
not if you can only fit 80kg’s of person in the aircraft.
mtow is irrelevant, what is the usable load after you kit it out like a pimp’s Roller..?
Along with the incredible endurance/range they have promised, but as yet have failed to prove.
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Old 2nd Jun 2023, 17:53
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I think you can fit about 300 kg of "belief" in the baggage bay too
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Old 3rd Jun 2023, 17:14
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Originally Posted by Hughes500
Bellblade, I m sure they do but some of the costs OEM charge for putting paperwork on items is eye watering. Wasnt that long ago for instance i had 2 owners needing a new clutch on a 341. [...]
This is literally the fourth time you've posted the story in this thread. Going in circles?
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Old 3rd Jun 2023, 19:52
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There is no denying that OEMs are milking customers.
We'll see how Hill will behave if he gets his bird in the air.
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Old 4th Jun 2023, 06:00
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Originally Posted by whoknows idont
This is literally the fourth time you've posted the story in this thread. Going in circles?
IKR… not all oems are like that and the bulk of the bad stories I hear about these days are from European OEM’s having to deal with the web of EASA and local airworthiness authorities. I suspect Hill will struggle mightily here and expose customers to significant safety and compliance risks.

But only if they successfully mount the unicorn Pegasus they are chasing. I would bet they run out of cash and “greater fools” in the next 36 months chasing that delusive/elusive creature.
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Old 4th Jun 2023, 06:18
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yup because people dont get it
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Old 4th Jun 2023, 07:02
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yup because people dont get it
We all get it, just some of us think it’s anecdotal nonsense solely intended to support an inherent bias.
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Old 9th Jun 2023, 17:46
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Unveiling the Tailboom


cheers
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Old 9th Jun 2023, 18:00
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That fuselage is an impressive piece of work, and a great milestone to achieve in the HX50 programme.
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