Road Angel Adventurer 7000 + Memory Map CAA Charts
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Road Angel Adventurer 7000 + Memory Map CAA Charts
I've installed the Memory Map CAA charts onto my mobile phone (Samsung Omnia) and with the built in GPS it is quite a good backup, but not really suitable for flying.
I've seen the Road Angel Adventurer 7000 at 190 pounds which you can upload the CAA memory map charts onto also, it looks very good. Would like to know if anyone is using this, and how good it is?
I've seen the Road Angel Adventurer 7000 at 190 pounds which you can upload the CAA memory map charts onto also, it looks very good. Would like to know if anyone is using this, and how good it is?
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I know nothing of the device, other than I've heard people moaning about it's road mapping and routeing.
If you want to put memory map onto it (or anything else really) you need to make sure that it runs on the WinCE operating system.
If you want to put memory map onto it (or anything else really) you need to make sure that it runs on the WinCE operating system.
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Road Angel.
I have a Road Angel 7000. For road use its fine, but not as nice as a Tom Tom or a Garmin. For VFR flying its excellent. I have a moving map that's just like the map on my knee for under £200. Programming a route is simple. It only does "North up" but you can move your location anywhere on the screen and the map will scroll past you, and having a map that looks like a CAA chart is much easier than having a Jeppesen chart. It'll easily do an hours flight on its internal battery or plug into an accessory socket.
The downside is that if you want anything other than a moving map (i.e location and speed) then the information windows are large and cover a lot of map.
Buy the cheapest 7000 you can find and load the Memory Map software from their website. The Adventurer is exactly the same hardware but has the MM software and the OS maps already loaded (which is fine if you want the OS maps - but £50 wasted if you don't.
After seeing mine 3 other guys on the strip went down to Argos and bought one.
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The downside is that if you want anything other than a moving map (i.e location and speed) then the information windows are large and cover a lot of map.
Buy the cheapest 7000 you can find and load the Memory Map software from their website. The Adventurer is exactly the same hardware but has the MM software and the OS maps already loaded (which is fine if you want the OS maps - but £50 wasted if you don't.
After seeing mine 3 other guys on the strip went down to Argos and bought one.
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I made what in retrospect was a mistake in buying FlyMap with the FlyAngel, which is the renamed and rebadged Road Angel 7000. The hardware is very good and I have used it on the road with no problem. It is very good in the air and I use it flying a Chipmunk with it strapped to my leg: it sits there and is small enough not to interfere with the stick. But .... the UK agent seems to have disappeared from the scene and the German parent company will not commit to when the charts will be further updated, if at all. If Memory Map will load on the 7000 unit than this seems to be the answer to my problem and it seems much cheaper than the £750 for the FlyMap system. Having said all that, updating is arguably less important on something which backs up the paper chart though I do find myself looking at the unit in preference to the chart, which is not exactly manageable in the front of the Chippy.
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I'm very tempted by this option - I see several Road Angel 7000 Navigators on ebay for a reasonable sub-£100 price...the memory map website isn't completely clear though; do they send the CAA 1/2 mil charts on an SD card or on CD for your computer and you transfer to an SD card and then putting it on the Road Angel is quite intuitive?
Many thanks for any advice!
Many thanks for any advice!
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Memory Map send you the charts on a CD which you load onto the SD card. The MM software is pre-loaded on the 7000 adventurer, or you can download it from the MM site & load it on to a lower cost Road Angel 7000. Look in the MM support forums for the Road Angel 7000.
I worked directly with the SD card. The first one I buggered about for an hour or so, but I was playing with the MM software as well. The other 2 or 3 (I loaded up the maps & software for the other guys at my strip) took about 10 minutes each.
Note that if you plug the actual road angel into your computer with a USB lead MM sees it as a "Mobile Device" rather than a "GPS" (differrent menu to find it).
If you buy one and have a snag with it then PM me.
Dave
I worked directly with the SD card. The first one I buggered about for an hour or so, but I was playing with the MM software as well. The other 2 or 3 (I loaded up the maps & software for the other guys at my strip) took about 10 minutes each.
Note that if you plug the actual road angel into your computer with a USB lead MM sees it as a "Mobile Device" rather than a "GPS" (differrent menu to find it).
If you buy one and have a snag with it then PM me.
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It appears that you cannot install any other program onto a FlyAngel as it is locked by Flymap!! I think I may be speaking to the former Uk agents about this as they sold me the product 
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The software in on the SD card. I am told that so is some of the Road Angel software, which means that will not work if you change the card over. I have not yet had an opportunity to play around with the unit to see if this is all correct and if there is a workround or not. I am surprised that the unit can be "locked" and I have managed to copy filies to the SD card; I just cannot install a program from the PC based software.
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If you remove the SD card from the unit, do you loose the option to start the FlyMap software?
If so, then something on the SD card starts the software.
Try installing the 30 day free trial of PFMS from the website using the SD card method (not activesync)Home of the PocketFMS Foundation.
Detailed instructions can be found here. Click here
Do this in a blank SD card, not on the one with FlyMap already on it or you may loose your flymap software!
If this works, then your unit is certainly not locked, and you should be able to get other software to run on it.
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If so, then something on the SD card starts the software.
Try installing the 30 day free trial of PFMS from the website using the SD card method (not activesync)Home of the PocketFMS Foundation.
Detailed instructions can be found here. Click here
Do this in a blank SD card, not on the one with FlyMap already on it or you may loose your flymap software!
If this works, then your unit is certainly not locked, and you should be able to get other software to run on it.
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buy an SD card - they're cheap enough; then load the MM software and some sample maps onto it & see if it works.
I've put a bigger card in my Road Angel so I can fit the road mapping, some OS maps and 2 x airmaps and it ran fine. It may be that the flymap software is locked to the SD card.
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I've put a bigger card in my Road Angel so I can fit the road mapping, some OS maps and 2 x airmaps and it ran fine. It may be that the flymap software is locked to the SD card.
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Thanks for that advice guys. Since I last posted I have had a very useful email from the Flymap people in Germany. It seems that the up to date CAA half and quarter mil charts are available as well as the Jeppesen ones. The prices for half mil appears to be competative with the Memory Map and pocket FMS - perhaps slightly more than Memory Map. Think I may go for the quarter mil, which are useful for low level VFR, which is what I mainly do now.
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Hi,
I have had memory map running on a lap top for some time, it works quite well in the cockpit, albeit the screen isn't really bright enough.
I have been trying without success to install the memory map sw on a road angel navigator 7000, I found a download on the road angel site, it installs active sync on my PC and should then download the executables on to the road angel, but the road angel cannot communicate with the PC for some reason - the PC active sync claims an incompatibility issue with the road angel even though the session is shown as "connected"
So if I send one of you kind gentlemen a blank SD card could someone please prep it for me.
much obliged
Pete
I have had memory map running on a lap top for some time, it works quite well in the cockpit, albeit the screen isn't really bright enough.
I have been trying without success to install the memory map sw on a road angel navigator 7000, I found a download on the road angel site, it installs active sync on my PC and should then download the executables on to the road angel, but the road angel cannot communicate with the PC for some reason - the PC active sync claims an incompatibility issue with the road angel even though the session is shown as "connected"
So if I send one of you kind gentlemen a blank SD card could someone please prep it for me.
much obliged
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The MM software sees the road angel as a "Device" rather than a GPS so that can cause trouble. I have always used the card in a card reader rather than connecting the Road Angel directly.
If you email me a list of the files on your SD card I can probably email back to you the missing files to make Road angel work.
I sent you a PM with my Email address on it a couple of days ago.
Dave
The MM software sees the road angel as a "Device" rather than a GPS so that can cause trouble. I have always used the card in a card reader rather than connecting the Road Angel directly.
If you email me a list of the files on your SD card I can probably email back to you the missing files to make Road angel work.
I sent you a PM with my Email address on it a couple of days ago.
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is it possible with the Road Angel using Memory Map to log the route that you have flown so that you can do post flight analysis?
if not... does anyone know a cheap way of doing so?
if not... does anyone know a cheap way of doing so?
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The June issue of the AOPA mag General Aviation has a good article on using the Navigo V2 and various PDAs.
You get the mag as part of the free AOPA membership if you are a student and (like me) forget to tell them you passed your PPL
You get the mag as part of the free AOPA membership if you are a student and (like me) forget to tell them you passed your PPL
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Apologies Dave,
I just found the PM, unlike many BBs it looks like pprune does not automatically email a user to tell him there is a PM
I will PM you the file details.
I have finally got Activesync working, it looks like my experience with using activesync with .net 4.2 devices is fairly typical, there seems to be some incompatibility which stops the device pairing. The problem remains that I cannot install the MM/Roadangel self extracting archive, as it always attempts to install activesync ( which is broken ), so it looks like the only way I will get it is installed is by cloning a working SD card.
Your help is much appreciated
Pete
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I just found the PM, unlike many BBs it looks like pprune does not automatically email a user to tell him there is a PM
I will PM you the file details.
I have finally got Activesync working, it looks like my experience with using activesync with .net 4.2 devices is fairly typical, there seems to be some incompatibility which stops the device pairing. The problem remains that I cannot install the MM/Roadangel self extracting archive, as it always attempts to install activesync ( which is broken ), so it looks like the only way I will get it is installed is by cloning a working SD card.
Your help is much appreciated
Pete
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I have finally got Activesync working, it looks like my experience with using activesync with .net 4.2 devices is fairly typical, there seems to be some incompatibility which stops the device pairing. The problem remains that I cannot install the MM/Roadangel self extracting archive, as it always attempts to install activesync ( which is broken ), so it looks like the only way I will get it is installed is by cloning a working SD card.
I have seen this with a few PDA's, Win/CE and mobile phones.
When using active sync to modern mobile devices it usually talks tcp and the windows firewall and any other firewall can block the return from the device. Therefore if you temporarily disable windows firewall and/or any other firewall for the duration of what your trying to do you will usually find that it works without a problem.
Good luck - will now go back to lurking...