BA Strike - Your Thoughts & Questions
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as i understand the role of a union, it is to represent all its members and to get the best deal for them.
regardless of how/why it was done, BASSA got a mandate not to negotiate from its members. so they have not done anything wrong by refusing to negotiate and by calling a strike, in accordance with the members wishes. they got 64% of all members to vote for a strike(80% of 80%) and called it.
as i see it,if i view this from a union members point of view, if you are 1 of the 36% who voted no, or did not vote, then you are still bound by the rules of the union to follow the majority and strike.if you choose not to, then i feel that you have no other option than to resign from the union. that is the only honest decision that you can make.
of the 64% who voted yes, and then went against their views and went to work, you should also resign from the union, as you clearly have no sense of right and wrong nor honour.
if you are part of the 64% who voted yes, and went on strike, then good luck to you for making your most courageous decision and being prepared to back it up when called on.
that only leaves those members, who were no doubt part of the 64%, who were not rostered and attended the football club "to support their comrades" and then went to work for whatever reason on other strike days;you should be so ashamed of yourselves and should at the very least resign from the union, and should reflect on their choice as i would not care to work with someone so two faced under any circumstances.
having said all that, i feel that the majority of cabin crew, partly due to the way they have been brain-washed by BASSA over the years, have never truly been in a position to understand what has been happening on their behalf -the "ballot" at the football ground being the classic example, as well as their refusal to read messages from BA because BASSA told them they didn't need to read BA's lies - and so must shoulder most of the blame for where they are now.
the BASSA committee should also shoulder a large % of the blame for continuing to put their own interests before that of their members. the fact that very few, if any, were actually physically "on-strike" i.e, in a position where they lost wages or staff travel is to me repugnant. all 55 committee members should have told BA that they were unavailable for work on day1 of the strike, whether they were suspended/sick/unrostered, and led from the front. the fact they did not should, i feel, be the subject of an emergency general meeting demanding they stand down and seek re-election.
from my personal point of view, i admire the staff that made a stand early, and backed BA, as i feel that was the trigger for those no voters and those that subsequently changed their minds to rally to the BA cause. without the few who had the courage to stand up initially this could have degenerated into an even worse mess than it is now.
i feel that BA have, right from the start, offered a fair deal to the cabin crew, and if the CSD's (BASSA committee??)had not refused to demean themselves by doing a bit of work this could have been settled at a very early stage last year.
how do i see this ending;
BA are still training volunteers so in the event of another strike being called then i would expect BA to run nearly a 100% operation. if a strike is called, supposedly for an indefinite period, then i would expect BA to roster the volunteers for the forseeable future and, as promised by Mr Francis, anyone choosing to return to work after taking part in the next strike could find that they have to wait a fair amount of time before they got rostered, and i would be willing to bet that they would not get any of the "plum" routes for a long while.i think this is when the 90 day notice period will kick in, and so i would be very wary about taking part in the next strike call.
this has been a complete disaster for the union and its members, and it was/is the wrong fight at the wrong time and for the wrong reason.
my opinion on why this has come about; ms malone and her committee could not bring themselves to go back on the trolley.
i am SLF who uses BA when i can, and have nothing to do with any union
regardless of how/why it was done, BASSA got a mandate not to negotiate from its members. so they have not done anything wrong by refusing to negotiate and by calling a strike, in accordance with the members wishes. they got 64% of all members to vote for a strike(80% of 80%) and called it.
as i see it,if i view this from a union members point of view, if you are 1 of the 36% who voted no, or did not vote, then you are still bound by the rules of the union to follow the majority and strike.if you choose not to, then i feel that you have no other option than to resign from the union. that is the only honest decision that you can make.
of the 64% who voted yes, and then went against their views and went to work, you should also resign from the union, as you clearly have no sense of right and wrong nor honour.
if you are part of the 64% who voted yes, and went on strike, then good luck to you for making your most courageous decision and being prepared to back it up when called on.
that only leaves those members, who were no doubt part of the 64%, who were not rostered and attended the football club "to support their comrades" and then went to work for whatever reason on other strike days;you should be so ashamed of yourselves and should at the very least resign from the union, and should reflect on their choice as i would not care to work with someone so two faced under any circumstances.
having said all that, i feel that the majority of cabin crew, partly due to the way they have been brain-washed by BASSA over the years, have never truly been in a position to understand what has been happening on their behalf -the "ballot" at the football ground being the classic example, as well as their refusal to read messages from BA because BASSA told them they didn't need to read BA's lies - and so must shoulder most of the blame for where they are now.
the BASSA committee should also shoulder a large % of the blame for continuing to put their own interests before that of their members. the fact that very few, if any, were actually physically "on-strike" i.e, in a position where they lost wages or staff travel is to me repugnant. all 55 committee members should have told BA that they were unavailable for work on day1 of the strike, whether they were suspended/sick/unrostered, and led from the front. the fact they did not should, i feel, be the subject of an emergency general meeting demanding they stand down and seek re-election.
from my personal point of view, i admire the staff that made a stand early, and backed BA, as i feel that was the trigger for those no voters and those that subsequently changed their minds to rally to the BA cause. without the few who had the courage to stand up initially this could have degenerated into an even worse mess than it is now.
i feel that BA have, right from the start, offered a fair deal to the cabin crew, and if the CSD's (BASSA committee??)had not refused to demean themselves by doing a bit of work this could have been settled at a very early stage last year.
how do i see this ending;
BA are still training volunteers so in the event of another strike being called then i would expect BA to run nearly a 100% operation. if a strike is called, supposedly for an indefinite period, then i would expect BA to roster the volunteers for the forseeable future and, as promised by Mr Francis, anyone choosing to return to work after taking part in the next strike could find that they have to wait a fair amount of time before they got rostered, and i would be willing to bet that they would not get any of the "plum" routes for a long while.i think this is when the 90 day notice period will kick in, and so i would be very wary about taking part in the next strike call.
this has been a complete disaster for the union and its members, and it was/is the wrong fight at the wrong time and for the wrong reason.
my opinion on why this has come about; ms malone and her committee could not bring themselves to go back on the trolley.
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Have just booked club world down to Delhi in May, a few things that the BASSA militants might like to consider -
- I usually use another carrier on this route but because of your action have now come back to BA as a show of support
- I really hope the flight falls in the next strike period because -
- I fully expect BA to be able to get me to and from my destination as they did during the last strike period
- Although my last flight to SFO was cancelled during the 2nd strike period BA seamlessly moved me onto an earlier flight with an upgrade so perhaps this may happen again
- The atmosphere on the flight with the dedicated and brave CC standing up to the union intimidation along with several VCC was absoloutely brilliant, it was a real siege mentality with everyone working for the same cause
- The prospect of travelling in a Non strike period with no doubt some element of militant BASSA CC on board is really quite depressing. No doubt the strained atmosphere will be felt by all
- I am not alone in this view amongst the business community and know of many premium corporate customers returning to BA to show their support
- I fully expect BA to be able to get me to and from my destination as they did during the last strike period
Future Bookings
If I worked for BA I would be VERY worried about future bookings.
Never mind what the spinners of BA and/ot Bassa are saying.............I rang up 2 days ago to book a BA flight to USA in September for my wife and I.
As ever, the booking was efficiently and effectively taken, and at the end I asked the person taking the booking if they were busy.
She clearly had plenty of time for a chat, and said words to the effect of "It has never been quieter. No-one seems to be booking anything". We could have chatted for some time, but unusually, I was busy and had to ring off!!
Adding that low number of bookings, to the fact that BA are price-matching Virgin to the USA, and I would be very worried about both bookings, and the prices that they are getting for each booking.......
PS - GG and JSL - after my fling with Virgin for Syd. earlier this year, I thought I'd give BA another chance.
Never mind what the spinners of BA and/ot Bassa are saying.............I rang up 2 days ago to book a BA flight to USA in September for my wife and I.
As ever, the booking was efficiently and effectively taken, and at the end I asked the person taking the booking if they were busy.
She clearly had plenty of time for a chat, and said words to the effect of "It has never been quieter. No-one seems to be booking anything". We could have chatted for some time, but unusually, I was busy and had to ring off!!
Adding that low number of bookings, to the fact that BA are price-matching Virgin to the USA, and I would be very worried about both bookings, and the prices that they are getting for each booking.......
PS - GG and JSL - after my fling with Virgin for Syd. earlier this year, I thought I'd give BA another chance.
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Do I think it's unfair to single out those who worked? No, not unless they are not part of a union as they wouldn't have had any other choice. If they voted for a strike and still went to work I think they made the wrong decision. They should have supported both their vote and their union.
ChicoG
This dispute could have been solved by now too if nobody had went to work during the strike. Management then would have been forced to come back to negotiations. I think the main reason why BASSA announced strike dates is because they didn't want a déja vu of what happened a few years ago when TW sold us down the river at the eleventh hour.
I don't blindly accept or believe everything they say but I don't have enough faith in our management to give up my trust in our union. They have negotiated for the best terms and conditions in the UK and don't always do bad things. When you look at what was on the table a year ago it looks like a good proposal but I still have a feeling they would have gone ahead with New Fleet. Too much time and work have been put into it.
Mariner9
There is a difference. The judge said he might have ruled differently if the situation had been different so he was not solely on BA's side. This strike is about protecting our jobs and as much as people seem to deny the fact that WW isn't after our union I disagree.
Imposition was placed on us because they couldn't reach an agreement. I don't believe BASSA can be solely blamed for this. BA is also to be blamed and as I have pointed out previously, they are far away from each other and I don't think WW is easy to negotiate with. Neither is BASSA. They probably don't have as much support as before but I think there's still a majority. It doesn't necessary mean that if we were re-balloted it would in favor of a strike because crew, myself included, are extremely tired of this. It has been going on for a very long time and we want to settle this once and for all.
R Knee
Strikebreakers include people who did OUR job during the strike. Pilots and ground staff who trained to become cabin crew, ex-temporary crew who have come back to the company on a six month contract, regular crew who voted for a strike but crossed the picket line.
Do I think it's unfair to single out those who worked? No, not unless they are not part of a union as they wouldn't have had any other choice. If they voted for a strike and still went to work I think they made the wrong decision. They should have supported both their vote and their union.
ChicoG
This dispute could have been solved by now too if nobody had went to work during the strike. Management then would have been forced to come back to negotiations. I think the main reason why BASSA announced strike dates is because they didn't want a déja vu of what happened a few years ago when TW sold us down the river at the eleventh hour.
I don't blindly accept or believe everything they say but I don't have enough faith in our management to give up my trust in our union. They have negotiated for the best terms and conditions in the UK and don't always do bad things. When you look at what was on the table a year ago it looks like a good proposal but I still have a feeling they would have gone ahead with New Fleet. Too much time and work have been put into it.
Mariner9
There is a difference. The judge said he might have ruled differently if the situation had been different so he was not solely on BA's side. This strike is about protecting our jobs and as much as people seem to deny the fact that WW isn't after our union I disagree.
Imposition was placed on us because they couldn't reach an agreement. I don't believe BASSA can be solely blamed for this. BA is also to be blamed and as I have pointed out previously, they are far away from each other and I don't think WW is easy to negotiate with. Neither is BASSA. They probably don't have as much support as before but I think there's still a majority. It doesn't necessary mean that if we were re-balloted it would in favor of a strike because crew, myself included, are extremely tired of this. It has been going on for a very long time and we want to settle this once and for all.
R Knee
Strikebreakers include people who did OUR job during the strike. Pilots and ground staff who trained to become cabin crew, ex-temporary crew who have come back to the company on a six month contract, regular crew who voted for a strike but crossed the picket line.
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The judge said he might have ruled differently if the situation had been different
My last speeding fine may have been different if that situation was different also, i.e. if I hadnt been speeding perhaps?
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Miss M.
Shouldn't you be in the other thread? Why are you here? This is for Pax not CC. You are vociferous enough on CC thread so what gives you the right to try to influence the pax. You would not like it other round would you?
The mods ban anyone who NOT CC/airline on the other thread so I can see good grounds to ban anyone who is not a pax.
Go away Miss M we can handle it here thanks very much.
Shouldn't you be in the other thread? Why are you here? This is for Pax not CC. You are vociferous enough on CC thread so what gives you the right to try to influence the pax. You would not like it other round would you?
The mods ban anyone who NOT CC/airline on the other thread so I can see good grounds to ban anyone who is not a pax.
Go away Miss M we can handle it here thanks very much.
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This dispute could have been solved by now too if nobody had went to work during the strike. Management then would have been forced to come back to negotiations.
I'm terribly sorry, MissM, but how could Management return to negotiations with a union that most of the time refused to negotiate?
And when BA put a reasonable offer on the table - I believe you saw it - and one Unite leader accepted an extension of the ballot period to allow CABIN CREW to consider this offer, another Unite leader called a strike knowing it would sabotage this opportunity for YOU to make your own decisions.
It is this naive mentality - that a strike would win the day for BASSA - that that has left Malone and the rest of them looking like a bunch of sour-faced ne'er-do-wells who have no support from the rest of the company.
What I don't understand is how you can let these people lead you over a cliff like lemmings, when you should be DEMANDING to know what BA are offering so that you can decide for yourselves if you want to accept it.
The people doing the negotiations here are the ones that do not want to do a bit of trolley work, and they are making decisions based on how it affects THEM and not YOU.
Go away Miss M we can handle it here thanks very much.
MissM not only offers an interesting insight into the mindset of cabin crew (whether you like it or not is a separate issue), but she can also listen to what pax think and perhaps carry the message back to her colleagues.
I for one think it's good that she posts here, and her opinion is as welcome as those who did not support the union in this debacle, so unless you've become a moderator here, I'd rather you didn't try and decide who posts what in this forum, thank you. If you aren't interested in her posts, I would suggest that you simply skip past them.
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Please don't leave, your comments have brightened up what has become a rather mundane discussion.
Ignore Surrey Towers; he/ she is in an intolerant minority.
Ignore Surrey Towers; he/ she is in an intolerant minority.
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Exsp33db1rd stated ...
BA have just kicked Air New Zealand out of the Interline agreements, too, so that they can't be used for Staff Travel anymore - Whoops ! not allowed to mention that !
The truth is somewhat different ... (fromthe BA Intranet)The majority of rebate travel agreements with other airlines are Zonal Employee Discount (ZED) agreements. The benefit of these agreements is that bookings can be made online and that only one ticket is required when a number of ZED airline operate the route and the fare is the same.
Other agreements are percentage agreements. These are not based on the ZED system and therefore cannot be automated.
Negotiations have been taking place with these airlines for over a year trying to move them to ZED, most however are not in a position to do this at the moment and there is little chance of this changing.
Because of this the agreements with the following airlines will be terminated on 28 February 2010 and no travel will be permitted after this date regardless of the date of ticket issue or ticket expiry date.
Air Botswana (BP)
Air New Zealand (NZ)
Air Pacific (FJ)
Bahamasair (UP)
Royal Air Maroc (AT)
Royal Brunei (BI)
Singapore Airlines (SQ)
Tunisair (TU)
I know, not particularly relevant to the thread, but I don't like people stirring when the facts show otherwise.
Other agreements are percentage agreements. These are not based on the ZED system and therefore cannot be automated.
Negotiations have been taking place with these airlines for over a year trying to move them to ZED, most however are not in a position to do this at the moment and there is little chance of this changing.
Because of this the agreements with the following airlines will be terminated on 28 February 2010 and no travel will be permitted after this date regardless of the date of ticket issue or ticket expiry date.
Air Botswana (BP)
Air New Zealand (NZ)
Air Pacific (FJ)
Bahamasair (UP)
Royal Air Maroc (AT)
Royal Brunei (BI)
Singapore Airlines (SQ)
Tunisair (TU)
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1. Perfectly happy to have MissM here. I can read the 'other thread' easily by having another 'window' open, but like all SLF we can't enter into public debate there. Besides, it saves me having to communicate with her by PM 
2. Llademos, exspeedbird's everlasting concern is the impending withdrawal of 'pensioners rights'. When he retired [a long time ago] he was entitled to cheap travel for life. BA have decided to remove that right at some point in the next couple of years.
2. Llademos, exspeedbird's everlasting concern is the impending withdrawal of 'pensioners rights'. When he retired [a long time ago] he was entitled to cheap travel for life. BA have decided to remove that right at some point in the next couple of years.
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On the other thread, on which we cannot post, they are talking about the bidding system. From a passengers point of view, it is simply dreadful. It seems that the oldest, most senior CC get the lion's share of the good trips, such as Hong Kong. Too often these senior crew are the ones with 'attitude.' No wonder a lot of businessmen prefer to travel with Asian carriers, who do not suffer from that particular malaise.
There are notable exceptions. Some years ago, I was travelling in J Class on United from Auckland to Sydney. The weather was great, and the seat belt sign went out at about 5,000 ft in the climb. Two minutes later, I saw two senior ladies pushing the drinks trolley uphill! They were both over 50, smiling, charming and a credit to United. The service on that flight was up there with the best I have known. I did not expect vintage Pouilly Fuissé on an American carrier.
There are notable exceptions. Some years ago, I was travelling in J Class on United from Auckland to Sydney. The weather was great, and the seat belt sign went out at about 5,000 ft in the climb. Two minutes later, I saw two senior ladies pushing the drinks trolley uphill! They were both over 50, smiling, charming and a credit to United. The service on that flight was up there with the best I have known. I did not expect vintage Pouilly Fuissé on an American carrier.
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Back for a moment then...
ChicoG
Our union refused to negotiate because some members raised their hand and voted for no further talks. I wasn't at the meeting last year and have never been against negotiations.
I would never allow BASSA to led me over the cliff. I can make my own decisions based on what I read and hear. I'm not like some of my colleagues propaganda with the purpose of brainwashing you. Why did I choose to go on strike? Because I have very little faith in BA that they are wanting to do what's best for us. They have their own set agenda and this is not the first time management has ignored our agreements.
This dispute is not about our CSD's working on a trolley. It's about imposition (I'm beginning to hate this word) and could easily be confused with the fact that crew members were removed in November and December last year but also because BASSA seems to be insisting that they should be put back. I don't think it's too much of an issue any more to have our CSD's working on a trolley even though that some flights can be VERY difficult to manage. Today, six months later it's not important for me to have them back to their previous position. I had a different opinion around Christmas but back then we were also getting used to our new practices.
From my understanding it was BASSA who called the strike dates and I think it's for the simple reason that years ago when we had another dispute with the company TW agreed to a settled agreement with BA at the eleventh hour. They were simply afraid this would happen again.
ChicoG
Our union refused to negotiate because some members raised their hand and voted for no further talks. I wasn't at the meeting last year and have never been against negotiations.
I would never allow BASSA to led me over the cliff. I can make my own decisions based on what I read and hear. I'm not like some of my colleagues propaganda with the purpose of brainwashing you. Why did I choose to go on strike? Because I have very little faith in BA that they are wanting to do what's best for us. They have their own set agenda and this is not the first time management has ignored our agreements.
This dispute is not about our CSD's working on a trolley. It's about imposition (I'm beginning to hate this word) and could easily be confused with the fact that crew members were removed in November and December last year but also because BASSA seems to be insisting that they should be put back. I don't think it's too much of an issue any more to have our CSD's working on a trolley even though that some flights can be VERY difficult to manage. Today, six months later it's not important for me to have them back to their previous position. I had a different opinion around Christmas but back then we were also getting used to our new practices.
From my understanding it was BASSA who called the strike dates and I think it's for the simple reason that years ago when we had another dispute with the company TW agreed to a settled agreement with BA at the eleventh hour. They were simply afraid this would happen again.
......Not meant in a cruel way..... 
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I take a big liberty and paste a table from the other thread which is reserved for the enlightened or the deluded - you can read that any way you want to.
Further information for crew who have lost staff travel concessions from 14 April 2010.
Q I have a trip booked for travel on British Airways, but I don’t return until 15 April, will I still be able to use the ticket to come home?
A No, the loss of staff travel concessions applies from 14 April 2010, therefore all travel must be completed before then. If you choose to travel out on a rebated ticket before that day, you will be responsible for arranging alternative means of getting home after 14 April 2010. Any unused tickets for yourself or nominees will no longer be valid and the reservations will be cancelled, please apply for a refund on these tickets in the normal way.
Q I am travelling on my partner's concessions and we are booked on their 100% rebate ticket to travel in May. Will I still be able to go?
No, you are unable to travel as a nominee of another serving or former British Airways employee from 14 April 2010.
Q I am a commuter, how will I get to work?
Staff travel is a non contractual, discretionary concession, there is no contractual entitlement. It is your responsibility regardless of where you work to ensure you are able to report for duty. Prior to the ballot for industrial action and again before the strike, it was clearly communicated that any individuals choosing to take strike action would lose staff travel eligibility.
Q My friend is travelling on my concessions and is due to fly back on 21 April, will she be able to fly?
No, the loss of staff travel concessions applies to your nominees from 14 April 2010. If your friend decides to travel, they will need to arrange alternative means of travelling home.
Q I have a staff travel ticket booked with another carrier for travel after 14 April, am I allowed to use it?
No, all travel must be completed by 14 April 2010. Any unused tickets for yourself or nominees will no longer be valid and you will need to cancel the reservation and apply for a refund on these tickets in the normal way. Any travel that takes place on any another carrier (including Oneworld, franchises and subsidiaries), after 14 April 2010, or contacting other airlines directly to request rebate travel will be considered misuse of staff travel and will be managed using the appropriate disciplinary procedures.
Q If I change jobs, will I get my staff travel concessions back?
No, the loss of staff travel is permanent and applies to any future jobs you may move to.
Q I have completed over 15 years of continuous service with British Airways. When I leave, will I be eligible for staff travel concessions?
No, the loss of staff travel is permanent, therefore you will no longer be eligible for former staff concessions.
Q I took strike action on the first dates, but came to work during the second strike dates, do I still lose my staff travel concessions?
Yes, the loss of staff travel concessions applies to all crew who took strike action.
With such a generous privilige available for friends, oneself, lovers, partners and retirees etc - is it any wonder now that so many are about to loose their fantastic freebies, that seat numbers will be down? This will surely benefit the airline. It will save BA fuel and free up seats for potential revenue passengers or perhaps even more profitable freight weight?
Further information for crew who have lost staff travel concessions from 14 April 2010.
Q I have a trip booked for travel on British Airways, but I don’t return until 15 April, will I still be able to use the ticket to come home?
A No, the loss of staff travel concessions applies from 14 April 2010, therefore all travel must be completed before then. If you choose to travel out on a rebated ticket before that day, you will be responsible for arranging alternative means of getting home after 14 April 2010. Any unused tickets for yourself or nominees will no longer be valid and the reservations will be cancelled, please apply for a refund on these tickets in the normal way.
Q I am travelling on my partner's concessions and we are booked on their 100% rebate ticket to travel in May. Will I still be able to go?
No, you are unable to travel as a nominee of another serving or former British Airways employee from 14 April 2010.
Q I am a commuter, how will I get to work?
Staff travel is a non contractual, discretionary concession, there is no contractual entitlement. It is your responsibility regardless of where you work to ensure you are able to report for duty. Prior to the ballot for industrial action and again before the strike, it was clearly communicated that any individuals choosing to take strike action would lose staff travel eligibility.
Q My friend is travelling on my concessions and is due to fly back on 21 April, will she be able to fly?
No, the loss of staff travel concessions applies to your nominees from 14 April 2010. If your friend decides to travel, they will need to arrange alternative means of travelling home.
Q I have a staff travel ticket booked with another carrier for travel after 14 April, am I allowed to use it?
No, all travel must be completed by 14 April 2010. Any unused tickets for yourself or nominees will no longer be valid and you will need to cancel the reservation and apply for a refund on these tickets in the normal way. Any travel that takes place on any another carrier (including Oneworld, franchises and subsidiaries), after 14 April 2010, or contacting other airlines directly to request rebate travel will be considered misuse of staff travel and will be managed using the appropriate disciplinary procedures.
Q If I change jobs, will I get my staff travel concessions back?
No, the loss of staff travel is permanent and applies to any future jobs you may move to.
Q I have completed over 15 years of continuous service with British Airways. When I leave, will I be eligible for staff travel concessions?
No, the loss of staff travel is permanent, therefore you will no longer be eligible for former staff concessions.
Q I took strike action on the first dates, but came to work during the second strike dates, do I still lose my staff travel concessions?
Yes, the loss of staff travel concessions applies to all crew who took strike action.
With such a generous privilige available for friends, oneself, lovers, partners and retirees etc - is it any wonder now that so many are about to loose their fantastic freebies, that seat numbers will be down? This will surely benefit the airline. It will save BA fuel and free up seats for potential revenue passengers or perhaps even more profitable freight weight?
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I can't help but get the impression that there is a significant proportion of the BA CC still living in some sort of bubble....
Anyways, travelling BA at the weekend, using up the auld airmiles. By all accounts, speaking with our company TA rep forward bookings on BA are shocking. The big two corporate agencies are giving BA a wide berth apparently.
Anyways, travelling BA at the weekend, using up the auld airmiles. By all accounts, speaking with our company TA rep forward bookings on BA are shocking. The big two corporate agencies are giving BA a wide berth apparently.
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@ MissM ... and glad you stayed!
BA do not want what's best for you. They never will either ... because they're not a Charity or part of your extended family. They are a business, and they will do what is best for the Company and the shareholders. You really do need to learn to live with that reality.
Of course they have their own agenda ... they would be stupid if they didn't. They need to drive down costs, which mean that NEW employees at some point in the future [not YOU] will be on less-favorable terms.
When it comes to agreements [like Disruption] BASSA have a track record of ignoring them. And refusing to discuss matters such as BA Finance. And refusing to sit with CC98.
This can go on forever ....
Why did I choose to go on strike? Because I have very little faith in BA that they are wanting to do what's best for us.
They have their own set agenda ...
... and this is not the first time management has ignored our agreements.
- Remind us, which agreements did BA ignore?
- Your 'concern' appears to be constantly about "imposition" - which has not been imposed on YOU.
- You constantly say that you do not trust BA - so why not leave?
This can go on forever ....