A330 Simulator

[BAC ZERO]

I would appreciate Contact Names and Numbers for any persons qualified to conduct Instrument Rating Renewals on A330 with access to Qantas Sydney or Melbourne based simulators. I will need some practice and a rating test to get a current rating renewal on my
Australian ATPL.
Telephone numbers for Syd and Melb simulator bases seem remarkably non existent and no one wishes to respond to website requests.

Thanks in advance.

SH

[Cool banana]

What about Greendot Aviation in Bangkok they have access to Airbus A330.

Check your PM.

[BAC ZERO]

I would like to sincerely THANK Cool Banana for putting me in contact with Green Dot Aviation with access to simulators in Bangkok and elsewhere. There were NO A330 simulators with qualified TRE’s or sim buddies available in Australia. Nor in the USA or Singapore or Hong Kong or Malaysia. Only Green Dot were able to provide me with the services I needed and access to Australian ATO’s to conduct the oral part of 61-1512 and 61-4P and ensure correct documentation delivered to CASA. Without them I would not be in a position to take up my current job as offered. For two A330 Sim sessions. One being US$1800 and the test being US$2500 being two hours each I have the potential for $600,000 net over the near future. A very good investment I would say.
Green Dot were easy to make contact witth. Easy to deal with. They found me the people I needed to get the practice and conduct the test. The paperwork all 22 pages were correct and accurate and acceptable to CASA. I was briefed after the test as to the due process of presentation to ensure success.
I am grateful to Green Dot for offering me the services to ensure my success. The Sim support and training was outstanding making the testing process a much less painful experience.

[The Shovel]

Can I ask how you did this as Thailand is not a recognised State by CASA under the 61-4P form? Your post reads like a very good advertisement, yet you don't say how you got the approval.

[Cool banana]

Can I ask how you did this as Thailand is not a recognised State by CASA under the 61-4P form? Your post reads like a very good advertisement, yet you don't say how you got the approval.

The A320/A330 & ATR Simulator in Bangkok are EASA approved.

I hope that answers your CASA 61-4P question.

CB

[The Shovel]

almost. What nationality is the examiner? Or did you fly one up from Australia?

[Bend alot]

Originally Posted by The Shovel

almost. What nationality is the examiner? Or did you fly one up from Australia?

"Only Green Dot were able to provide me with the services I needed and access to Australian ATO’s to conduct the oral part of 61-1512 and 61-4P and ensure correct documentation delivered to CASA."

[harrryw]

From what I see the simulators used are the ones located in Bangkok Airways building. I understand this is the EEA training centre for EASA Airbus Training and others such as AAAT.
Greendot use these simulators. Greendot are located in Slovenia and are EASA approved there.. Presumably they have some contacts and alliances so that Australian requirements can be met.
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[The Shovel]

Originally Posted by harrryw

From what I see the simulators used are the ones located in Bangkok Airways building. I understand this is the EEA training centre for EASA Airbus Training and others such as AAAT.
Greendot use these simulators. Greendot are located in Slovenia and are EASA approved there.. Presumably they have some contacts and alliances so that Australian requirements can be met.
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Slovenia are not an approved state by CASA.
Who and how was the approved Australian ATO provided? I ask because CASA have given me a No in relation to using them.

[Bend alot]

Originally Posted by The Shovel

Slovenia are not an approved state by CASA.
Who and how was the approved Australian ATO provided? I ask because CASA have given me a No in relation to using them.

Rightly or wrongly they have given you a NO.

When I got a NO from CAsA, I showed them a YES from another CAsA.

When I showed this written YES document to my CAsA "He does not know what he is talking about!" NO and just to make you happy I will get our Legal Team to say NO, but I will not show you how I asked the question or what the question was!

[BAC ZERO]

Originally Posted by The Shovel

Slovenia are not an approved state by CASA.
Who and how was the approved Australian ATO provided? I ask because CASA have given me a No in relation to using them.

So Mr Shovel.

Tell me why you are trying to solve complicated technical licencing issues on pprune, amongst the unqualified all trying to second guess your qualifications and your specific need with precious little information from you. Have you actually contacted GDA and explained your needs and asked them if they can process the paperwork for you and make application to CASA ? Why do you not contact GDA ? I do not understand why a pilot totally unqualified in foreign licencing processes would attempt to make a request to any Regulator anywhere in the world without qualified expertise providing assistance. Maybe you are just trying to penny pinch a few cents. I personally would not have got past the first phone call to CASA without expert help. Even at this time I believe CASA need to correct an expiry date on a licence verification document. I say change it they say NO. I lose because I do not have the expertise to argue regulation with CASA and by the way nor do you.

I do not understand why you will not conduct this process in a logical reasonable manner ? Contact GDA and get the answers you require one way or another.

So a few questions for you......

What is your aviation experience ?
Are you SEA and or MEA ?
Are you type rated A320 A330 or A340 ?
Describe the Instrument Rating you hold and are you current ?
What State ATPL's do you hold and which ATPL's have the A330 type rating on them ?
Did CASA say NO to you because of your qualifications ?
How long ago did you make the approach to CASA ?
Are you a Captain or First Officer ?
What is you flight recency experience ?

Further, you have obviously not understood my post or you just didn't bother reading it. Some of your questions are clearly answered in the post.

And just to remind you one more time.....most of your other questions can be answered by approaching GDA directly....so why don't you ?

The only thing I can think of is, you don't have the qualifications, you are a competitor looking for information, you approached GDA some time ago and maybe their qualifications and approvals have changed. And finally you stuffed it all up by approaching CASA without the skill set required to get a successful outcome. So, which one of these is it ?

Despite what I have said please get back to us and let us know what the outcome was. I, in particular, wish you success.

[ZFT]

Originally Posted by harrryw

From what I see the simulators used are the ones located in Bangkok Airways building. I understand this is the EEA training centre for EASA Airbus Training and others such as AAAT.
Greendot use these simulators. Greendot are located in Slovenia and are EASA approved there.. Presumably they have some contacts and alliances so that Australian requirements can be met.
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Incorrect. The FSTDs are owned, operated and qualified by Asian Aviation Training Centre (AATC) which is an EASA training centre in its own right co-located within the Bangkok Airways Operation Center. Other ATOs such as GDA have Agreements to use AATCs FSTDs.

These are the only ATOs that are EASA approved (AATC is No 11) and fall under direct oversight from Cologne


Other ATOs are not EASA approved but approved by their own Competent Authority, whether it be UK, France, Denmark or Slovenia but they are not EASA approved.

[harrryw]

Thank you
I posted to get this information as although I knew there were simulators there I do not know about them but this thread lacked precision on what was being talked about. This may help. Thanks for the clarification between Competent Authority and EASA..

[The Shovel]

Nice response Bendalot.

BAC Zero, you wrote a very nice advertising piece. I am just asking for the fine print. My experience is irrelevant, and I was not asking anyone to solve a complicated licencing issue.

So I should contact a service provider, ask them if the service they provide will be recognised by CASA. After they me yes, pay them and then take the paperwork to CASA and hope they approve it? That seems logical.

How about I go to the regulator first (whic I did) and get an answer before spending time and money on a frivolous adventure?
The Simulator is not an issue as it is EASA approved. The issue is the ATO. Thailand and Slovenia are not Approved Contracting States.
So it was a very simple question regarding the ATO.

Australian ATPL, A320/A330 Command Rating. Airline Captain for the last 15years. Is that qualified enough for you?
Want to renew my Australian Licence. Is that a good enough reason for you?
Obviously I want to get my Australian Licence renewed with my Airbus rating.

I asked CASA about 2-3 weeks ago. Any ATO must be from a Contracting State. So back to my original question, how was the approved ATO sourced?

[BAC ZERO]

Originally Posted by The Shovel

So I should contact a service provider, ask them if the service they provide will be recognised by CASA, pay them and then take the paperwork to CASA and hope they approve it? That seems logical.

How about I go to the regulator first (whic I did) and get an answer before spending time and money on a frivolous adventure? WRONG !!!!!!!

Australian ATPL, A320/A330 Command Rating. Airline Captain for the last 15years. Is that qualified enough for you?
Want to renew my Australian Licence. Is that a good enough reason for you? FRANKLY NOT INTERESTED IN YOUR REASONS AND WE ARE NOT IN COMPETITION !!!!!!
I asked CASA about 2-3 weeks ago. Any ATO must be from a Contracting State. So back to my original question, how was the approved ATO sourced?

Shovel

Dear Chap.....Its quite obvious you are just not going to listen or accept help based on my experience. Fine, go and do it your way. I wanted to know something about you so WE were not guessing as to your needs. This is GDA's business. The ATO was sourced by GDA. Stop being so stubborn. The ATO is listed on the CASA approved list of ATO's as per CASA website. The ATO IS from a contracting State !!! By the way you will NOT BE CHARGED ANY MONEY UNTIL YOU RECEIVE YOUR AUTHORIZED TEST NUMBER FROM CASA. The only reason I asked your qualifications is I was looking for problems that might affect your success. GDA sourced the ATO......you need to speak to them. I don't mention names because I don't have permission and out of professional courtesy. When you speak to your ATO after you make arrangements with GDA all shall be revealed to you. Stop talking to me and demanding information on this site. I and we are NOT the people you need to be talking to.

Frankly Olde Boye you really need to change your attitude. All the answers you require are waiting for you at GDA. However, based on your recent performance they may simply not want your money at any price.

Further, I am done with you and I shall not be responding again. So don't bother asking more questions. You have been given good advise.....take it !

PS... you already went to the Regulator first....that didn't work out very well....according to your own admission.

By the way there must be a reason why you refuse to contact GDA......would you like to tell us what it is ?

[Bend alot]

My tip in Australia on migration advise is NEVER EVER contact the Immigration Department for advice - They are not qualified or are they accountable for life changing advise on life altering migration issues. That is a fact.

CAsA is no different with the exception that they are "qualified" to give advice, but they are not accountable for that advice.

My advice is never ever contact CAsA for advice.

There are others to use/contact. Use them not CAsA.

[The Shovel]

My attitude?
How is your keyboard doing after your last post?

Considering you didn't answer my question in any of your posts, I wont be at a loss by your refusal not to respond.

FYI, you can get a testing number from CASA without having an approved overseas ATO.

For other interested parties, CASA provide a list on form 61-4P of Approved contracting states. The testing officer must be from one of those states to conduct a Partial Overseas Proficiency Check or Instrument Renewal. The Simulator only needs to be EASA approved.

I will stick with my current provider.

[BAC ZERO]

Originally Posted by The Shovel

My attitude?
How is your keyboard doing after your last post?

Considering you didn't answer my question in any of your posts, I wont be at a loss by your refusal not to respond.

FYI, you can get a testing number from CASA without having an approved overseas ATO.

For other interested parties, CASA provide a list on form 61-4P of Approved contracting states. The testing officer must be from one of those states to conduct a Partial Overseas Proficiency Check or Instrument Renewal. The Simulator only needs to be EASA approved.

I will stick with my current provider.

You do that Captain DARLING....and have a wonderful life.
Thank you for identifying your motivation....in your post....FOOL.

[BAC ZERO]

Originally Posted by BAC ZERO

You do that Captain DARLING....and have a wonderful life.
Thank you for identifying your motivation....in your post....FOOL.

For the rest of you who peruse pprune. If you happen to be in need of simulation services to CASA standards or any other standards consider greendot-aviation.com. I appreciate the help given to me and that is why I am here. Yes I paid...but I got more than I paid for.
SH